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September 28, 2007 at 13:39:23

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Hillary the She-Bush by Cindy Sheehan

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Dear Friends,
With the deplorable performance of Hillary at the debate, the other evening, I decided to post an article that appeared in The Progressive Magazine earlier this year.
Cindy
 
Let’s face it: In 2008, we are not going to get much worse than George W. Bush. I shudder to even think of what a President worse than George would look like.
 
I am hoping with 2008, though, that the American electorate will not settle for someone who is not as bad as George W., but we will seek out, support and celebrate someone who is far better and will lead our country back on a path of healing and peace in a way that will also show the rest of the planet that the United States is regaining her sanity after the horribly destructive Bush years.
 
 I am praying that we are finished with politicians who either don’t listen to the American public at all, or like Hillary Clinton, play political games while our troops are  dying by the dozens every week.
 
It’s hard to figure out which Hillary will appear on a given day. In a voice that alternates between nails on a chalkboard and the charm, warmth, and modulation of a dripping faucet, Hillary changes her rhetoric and her positions as fast as her advisers can send her a message on her Blackberry. (A recent disturbing trend she has been exhibiting is laughing wildly and inappropriately at weird random times...it's truly creepy).
 
One of the reasons that I’m opposed to a Hillary Clinton Presidency is that another Clinton in the White House would mean that for the last twenty years we have had either a Clinton or a Bush in power. America does not do dynasties. We broke away from a monarchy 231 years ago, and we have engaged in imperialism all over the world allegedly deposing dynasties. Even though the monograms are already in place, it sets a dangerous precedent, especially with another Bush in the offing. 
 
Everyone who knows me, though, understands the main reason I do not, have not, or will not support Hillary Clinton. It is not because she is annoying. It is not because she is a Clinton. It is because she is a She-Bush warmonger. She can twang all she wants that she has always been against the invasion and occupation of Iraq, (as she did on a recent MSNBC Countdown with Keith Olbermann) but anyone with a memory and a basic awareness of current events knows she is not exactly telling the truth. She said this on the floor of the Senate before she cast her original vote: “The facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. . . . Saddam must disarm or be disarmed.”
 
I want Senator Clinton to show remorse for her complicity in the murder of my son, Casey, and his buddies, and for the mass murder of the Iraqi people. Even though saying, “I’m sorry for my vote that caused so much pain,” will not raise anyone from the dead, or rebuild the smashed structures and infrastructure in Iraq, it may go a long way toward healing and also toward bringing the rest of the troops home so they can live a long life on top of the earth, not prematurely buried beneath it.
 
But Hillary refuses, even at this late, to apologize. “Mrs. Clinton believes that reversing course on Iraq would invite the charge of flip-flopping that damaged Mr. Kerry,” The New York Times reported on February 18. “She argued to associates in private discussions that Mr. Gore and Mr. Kerry lost, in part, because they could not convince enough Americans that they were resolute on national security, the associates said. Mrs. Clinton’s image as a strong leader, in turn, is critical to her hopes of becoming the nation’s first female President. According to one adviser, her internal polling indicates that a high proportion of Democrats see her as strong and tough, both assets particularly for a female candidate who is seeking to become commander in chief.”
 
 Still, she tries to have it both ways, saying that if she becomes President in 2009 she will “bring the troops home from Iraq” if they are still there. My answer to that is: Come in off of the fundraising track and work on bringing the troops home now. While the Senator is out campaigning and equivocating, people are dying.
 
I, my sister, Dede, and another Gold Star Mother, Lynn Braddach, whose son, Travis Nall, was killed in Iraq in 2003, met with Senator Clinton in September of 2005. We poured our hearts and souls out to her. We cried as we told her of our sons and our fear for the people of Iraq and the escalating body count of our brave young people. She sat there stone-faced and walked out and told Sarah Ferguson of the Village Voice, “My bottom line is that I don’t want their sons to die in vain. . . . I don’t believe it’s smart to set a date for withdrawal. . . . I don’t think it’s the right time to withdraw.” She may as well have slapped us in the face using Bloody George’s own lines and using our son’s sacrifice to justify her own warmongering.
 
Since we met with her, more than 1,000 of our young people have come home in body bags and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis have died while she was waiting for the best political time to be semi-against the war. How many of our troops are lying in Walter Reed with devastating injuries that could have been prevented if a Senate leader like Clinton would have taken a moral, instead of a political, stance?
 
On January 18th, Senator Clinton introduced a meaningless bill to put a cap on the number of soldiers that can be in Iraq. She set the cap at January 1st levels. It is as weak and meaningless as the nonbinding resolution, and it is just as politically safe, since about two-thirds of the country now opposes the war—and Bloody George, too.
 
This occupation of Iraq can’t be won by being smarter; it was lost before we went in. The United States was the big loser in a capricious military expedition that began with the support of Senator Clinton. She is an amazingly brilliant person, and she cannot credibly say that she was fooled, or lied to, by George. But that is what she said, as she began to backpedal as early as October 17, 2003.
 
“The Administration gilded the lily, engaged in hyperbole, took whatever small nugget of intelligence that existed and blew it up into a mountain,” she said on the Senate floor that day.
 
I don’t want a President who admits to being fooled by George Bush, one of the biggest fools in American history.
 
Now, as Bush threatens war with Iran, Senator Clinton is in no position to hold him back. In fact, she out-hawks George W. on the imminent invasion of Iran. Early last year, she had this to say to a meeting of AIPAC (American-Israeli Political Action Committee): “U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal: We cannot, we should not, we must not permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons,” she said. “In dealing with this threat . . . no option can be taken off the table.”
 
 To avoid letting Iran get a nuclear weapon, she is willing to go nuclear. She dares to threaten using a weapon of mass destruction, which has only ever been used by the U.S., to pick the mote out of Iran’s eye when Israel has hundreds of logs in its own eye, and America has thousands.
 
 I want a President who keeps us safe. But I crave a President who keeps us safe not by killing innocent people, or embarking on an insane arms race to add weaponry to our already formidable arsenal, but by implementing wise policies that give fewer people abroad any good reason to despise us. I crave a President who does not aspire to run the empire just like the guys but who understands the need to dismantle the empire and to turn this country into a real democracy, instead. 
 
I, again, affirm my commitment to peace. I don’t care if it is a man or a woman; Democrat, Republican, Green; white, brown, or black; Christian, Jew, Muslim, or otherwise. I will only support a candidate who is courageously and uncompromisingly committed to peace.
Hillary Clinton is not that person. She never will be.
   
 

 

Cindy Sheehan is the mother of Spc. Casey Austin Sheehan, who was KIA in Iraq on 04/04/04. She is a co-founder and President of Gold Star Families for Peace and the author of two books: Not One More Mother's Child and Dear President Bush.

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I was in Dallas when the Bus left the Veterans for Peace Conference for the Bush Ranch. I might be alternative but I am voting for Hilary Clinton. I was invited to the VFP Conference because I had been invited to work for the Satellite Weapons Targetting for the Navy. I was told that there was an Unproclamed War that the American Public did not know. I did not want to take a Security Clearance that might lead to World War III. Instead, I lead a private life. However, in Spring 2001, I was once a...

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JodaI was in Dallas when the Bus left the Veterans for Peace Conference for the Bush Ranch. I might be alternative but I am voting for Hilary Clinton. I was invited to the VFP Conference because I had been invited to work for the Satellite Weapons Targetting for the Navy. I was told that there was an Unproclamed War that the American Public did not know. I did not want to take a Security Clearance that might lead to World War III. Instead, I lead a private life. However, in Spring 2001, I was once a...

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What does this mean?

"I, my sister, Dede, and another Gold Star Mother, Lynn Braddach, whose son, Travis Nall, was killed in Iraq in 2003, met with Senator Clinton in September of 2005. We poured our hearts and souls out to her. We cried as we told her of our sons and our fear for the people of Iraq and the escalating body count of our brave young people. She sat there stone-faced and walked out and told Sarah Ferguson of the Village Voice, “My bottom line is that I don’t want their sons to die in vain. . . . I don’t believe it’s smart to set a date for withdrawal. . . . I don’t think it’s the right time to withdraw.” She may as well have slapped us in the face using Bloody George’s own lines and using our son’s sacrifice to justify her own warmongering."

What does that paragraph say to you? Does it say that Hilary did not care? I see that Hilary is stating that if we left too early, we would not have finished a job. Does that meant that I am for the war when I said that? No, that does not mean that. My mother used to have a plaque on the wall when I was a child, it read, "I know that you think that you heard what I said but I do not think you know what I meant." That is what I see in that paragraph. Add to that "crying" and we get "emotions" which flood the mind with memories, greiving the mother's loss of children. Sadly, a person grieving is not clear which is why we have had cultures wherein the people grieving wear black for periods of up to a year. It is a known fact that grief causes an altered state of mind.  

by Joda (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 1:29:09 AM
 


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drasileI'm a retired person from the construction industry, covering more then I'd like to list. My hobbies are building anything that looks interesting. Football is my fav. sport with the Sleelers my team. My best fun is watching our local Div. 3 football team, The Mount Union Purple Raiders. I'm long time married and my passion today is making every effort to convince people that they may be supporting the wrong person. My favorite music is what people call Jazz and old rock and roll. My ...

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Cindy, everyone Mother

Cindy, you had your time on the sun and for some reason either you or someone in your employ fucked up your chance.
Now suddenly you believe that you have the intelligence and support to make a run at Nancy Pelosi. Give it up please. Now I read that you, and I empsie You use your name to post a story with the intention of telling us real Democrats not to vote for Hillary. Need I remind you how the world accepts the Clinton name as the greatest American president in the last two decades. So you don't like the Clintons, that's to bad honey because so many do and unless you're a compleat idiot you know how much we need a name like Clinton to repair the ill feelings that have spread through out the whole world.
Shortly after you lost your son and made an honest effort to offer a mother's opposition to Bush's war your time in the light should have ended because as you went on and on you did nothing more then make every democrat look like a sobbing fool. My God woman, don't you know that we are trying to unify our party for the betterment of our country. Please do America a favor and stay the hell out of politics.

 

by drasile (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 77 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 2:55:45 PM
 


Robert Sargent is co-owner of a Washington State commercial printing company with operations in Seattle and Redmond. He has an Economics degree from the University of Washington and occasionally plays alto sax with the Husky alumni band. An amateur economist, investor and photographer, and fiscally conservative moderate at heart, Robert has been a "yellow-dog Democrat" since the Bush administration "began screwing up the world beyond repair". Active in local and national political races, Mr. Sar...

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Robert SargentRobert Sargent is co-owner of a Washington State commercial printing company with operations in Seattle and Redmond. He has an Economics degree from the University of Washington and occasionally plays alto sax with the Husky alumni band. An amateur economist, investor and photographer, and fiscally conservative moderate at heart, Robert has been a "yellow-dog Democrat" since the Bush administration "began screwing up the world beyond repair". Active in local and national political races, Mr. Sar...

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Here's what I think...

...I think Cindy wakes up every morning, and enjoys a brief moment of innocent bliss, then the fog clears and she remembers. She remembers her son is dead. And she carries that burden the rest of the day, until the next morning, when she can again enjoy a few seconds of semiconscious amnesia. A million people, at least, mostly decent, innocent people, have died as a result of our reckless agression. She wants it to stop. She doesn't want any other mothers to share her burden. She expects our elected politicians to end the war. She has every right to expect it, and is under no obligation to bite her tongue in the interest of unity -- that's the type of towing the line that led us down the warpath in the first place. I often don't agree with Cindy Sheehan, but I grieve with her, and respect her.


-Sarge

by Robert Sargent (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 317 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 5:07:31 PM
 


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Best of the worse

Oh, right. Bill Clinton was the best of the past 20 years. Big deal. So, he was the best of three presidents, two of them being criminal Bushes.  We can do better. Cindy is a bright light shining on a promise America should not settle for less than.  I'll live with any of the Dem candidates, but on polls, hillary is at the bottom of the list just ahead of Joe Biden. We can't settle for merely better than Bush. America will not survive with another corporatist who will sell out america to globalism and corporations.

Sure Hillary is better than Giuliani, Thompson and all, but maybe Ron Paul on the right wing side. But that's like saying, if you're in a car crash, you want your car body made out of cardboard rather than paper. I'd prefer steel and that means candidates who stand up much better for progressive values. 

by Rob Kall (869 articles, 4014 quicklinks, 345 diaries, 1846 comments) on Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 5:08:51 AM
 


I was in Dallas when the Bus left the Veterans for Peace Conference for the Bush Ranch. I might be alternative but I am voting for Hilary Clinton. I was invited to the VFP Conference because I had been invited to work for the Satellite Weapons Targetting for the Navy. I was told that there was an Unproclamed War that the American Public did not know. I did not want to take a Security Clearance that might lead to World War III. Instead, I lead a private life. However, in Spring 2001, I was once a...

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JodaI was in Dallas when the Bus left the Veterans for Peace Conference for the Bush Ranch. I might be alternative but I am voting for Hilary Clinton. I was invited to the VFP Conference because I had been invited to work for the Satellite Weapons Targetting for the Navy. I was told that there was an Unproclamed War that the American Public did not know. I did not want to take a Security Clearance that might lead to World War III. Instead, I lead a private life. However, in Spring 2001, I was once a...

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I'm covering your Back

Drasile,

I grew up in the interatial hood, being native american and other genes: being in BASIC training for me was easier than that for me. It was like a walk in the park because we were trained to trust each other as a team. For the first time in my life, I learned how to feel that my back was covered. In 1997, I was asked to work for Satellite Weapons Targeting for the Navy in Oakland, California. I was told by the Navy, "We are at war but the American public does not know yet." After deep core meditation and prayer, I was guided to not participate in a war. I felt that my life would be at risk if I was ever to become a whistler blower again. I had already gone to Senator Barbara Boxer when I was in Advanced BASIC at Fort Leonardwood, Missouri. I blew two whistles. One was on sexual harrassment which after an investigation, it was discovered that many women had been raped by the same seargant. I was not the victim; my best friend who I joined on the Buddy Buddy System was the one. I covered her back throughout being harrassed and threatened by my drill seargants. That was the second whistle I blew by asking my mother to contact Boxer's office. Years later, my friend and I recieved separate notices from the Veterans Department offering all the women who attended that training free Women's Medical exams. To this day, I qualify for PTSD for that event although I have not ever gone through the trouble for applying.

I had gone to Officer Candidacy introductory seminar so to speak. Somewhere I still have that certificate. On that day, we were shown the future of the Army. We were shown the future weapons and weaponry. We were shown the responsibilty we would be expected to carry. After that day, I felt that I would never be part of that because it was a big machine. I went to college on my G.I. Bill. I realized, college is a big machine. Every where I went, I saw the big machine. I went to the jungles of Guatemala to be in the mud and trees. All around me the forests were burning down. That was over a decade ago. I kept dreaming that I had to go back to that big machine and take responsibility. That is what I feel Hilary is inside of and she is the only one who can be in that machine. She has been inside the machine working around in there and she needs support not hatred.

My father used to say, "Whatever you do, don't work for the government." At the Dallas Veterans For Peace Conference I attended the whistler blowers workshop. I listened to a Resigned Diplomat/Army Reserve Colonel, FBI Agent and Justice Assistant Attorney all share their stories about how the government went wrong. Apparently, it is easy. All the intelligent people were not holding positions of power. Instead, people who were hired only by their relationships and relatives were in leadership. They basically said that we need more educated people inside the government - all levels.

To me, we need to come back to balance. Being from San Francisco Bay Area, I have seen the sixties over and over again. Instead of tuning out and we need to tune in. As a nation, it takes great courage to go to the edge. It also takes courage to be humble and come back to the center. If we all knew that we should care more and hate less we would have a better world indeed. Thank you for seeing that. We need more people out there like you.

by Joda (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 1:54:33 AM
 


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Hillary is no Democrat

You're not a "real Democrat" in any sense of the word.  Like Hillary, you're just looking for your turn at the public trough.  Real Democrats care about people as much as power.  I can understand why someone like Hillary would appeal to you--she's devoid of compassion, but willing to use the appearance of compassion to further her goals.  This vile slug of a woman is not a Democrat, any more than Bill was.  Bill was the most effective Republican president of the 20th Century, and Hillary aims to follow in his footsteps...except that she's posing as a closeted religious fundamentalist.  (Try to imagine her believing in anything other than her own entitlement.)   Hillary would be an absolute disaster, but real Democrats will prevent that.  Watch.

by JonmarkP (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 92 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 12:46:43 PM
 


Eileen is the Reporter and Editor of wearewideawake.orgProducer of "30 Minutes with Vanunu" and "13 Minutes with Vanunu" Author of "Keep Hope Alive" and "Memoirs of a Nice Irish American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory" and an e-book; "So, That was 54..."She has been to Israel Palestine five times since June 2005 and will return November 2008.
Eileen FlemingEileen is the Reporter and Editor of wearewideawake.orgProducer of "30 Minutes with Vanunu" and "13 Minutes with Vanunu" Author of "Keep Hope Alive" and "Memoirs of a Nice Irish American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory" and an e-book; "So, That was 54..."She has been to Israel Palestine five times since June 2005 and will return November 2008.

ALL that and more

I have yet to meet ANYBODY who is voting for Clinton.

 

She is being shoved down our throats by MSM.

 

She is as phony as they come.

 

Everyone tells me my choice-Kucinich is un-electable.

 

I think NOT!

 

What we need is to refute the Doctrine of Fear and lead the leaders in the way they should go;

 

As our Founding Fathers intended:

 

"Soon after I had published the pamphlet "Common Sense" [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion... The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."-Tom Paine

 

 

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by Eileen Fleming (154 articles, 55 quicklinks, 268 diaries, 588 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 3:23:15 PM
 


I am a retired opera singer. I was a leading soprano with the New York City Opera for ten years. I am a strong supporter of Dennis Kucinich and worked for his campaign in 2004. I believe that he is the ONLY honest man in congress. He has been working against this insane war since before it began. I am 72 years old and I have been so frustrated with the media, the Congress and the American people that they don't tell the truth.
CaronomeI am a retired opera singer. I was a leading soprano with the New York City Opera for ten years. I am a strong supporter of Dennis Kucinich and worked for his campaign in 2004. I believe that he is the ONLY honest man in congress. He has been working against this insane war since before it began. I am 72 years old and I have been so frustrated with the media, the Congress and the American people that they don't tell the truth.

Cindy called it!

It seems that the longer  Hillary is on the campaign trail, the more she looks unhinged. That laughing thing is weird.

But more important are her views on everything from the war to health care. The health care issue is over the top and I have been shocked and annoyed by the people who seem to think her plan is good. Her "plan" is worse than we have now. It's inconceivable  that anybody should think that making it mandatory to buy health insurance is a good thing. Why don't we just take advantage of the remaining ice floes and put us all out on them to die? 

My fervent hope is that as the campaign goes on she will show her the kind of person she really is  and she will be out of the race. Surely she can't keep up the pretense that she is the best candidate for too much longer. Her views on the war are so heartless. I would like to see her and Chelsea  in uniform and sent to Iraq. Then we would see how she would change her tune. How could anyone think that ending  the war by 2013 could be acceptable?

We should listen to Dennis Kucinich and what he has said from the beginning. Out of Iraq now; impeach Cheney and then Bush; adopt a not for profit health care plan that covers all of of us and form a dept. of peace to work for the good of all the countries of the world. Then we will  have a chance  to turn this country around and back to a peaceful nation that cares about all citizens of the world. 

by Caronome (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 241 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 4:56:04 PM
 


I live in Ky. you know, just a hillbilly. I worked at a tire plant, General Tire. Thanks to Bill Clinton and fast tracking NAFTA, they have moved to Mexico. I had a woodworking business. Thanks to all the "free trade", agreements , WTO, GATT and now CAFTA, and all the cheap products from China, my own government put me out of business. I've planned well over the years and don't owe anybody anything, not much money, but, I'm one of the lucky ones.
Bill EhlebenI live in Ky. you know, just a hillbilly. I worked at a tire plant, General Tire. Thanks to Bill Clinton and fast tracking NAFTA, they have moved to Mexico. I had a woodworking business. Thanks to all the "free trade", agreements , WTO, GATT and now CAFTA, and all the cheap products from China, my own government put me out of business. I've planned well over the years and don't owe anybody anything, not much money, but, I'm one of the lucky ones.

I am so sick

and so tired of people saying  Bill Clinton was the best or one of the best we ever had. I should remind you that under Clinton American attacked and killed nearly 100 Americans in Waco, TX. and killed a innocent young boy and his mother in which the FBI attacked Ruby Ridge later paying over 1 million dollars, but not apoligizing. Not only has he condoned the killing of innocent Americans on American soil, but he also nearly single handedly push through NAFTA, GATT and WTO which has brought down the middle class and our manufactoring base. In light of all that, I would easily say he is as bad or worse that Bush. Wake up!!!!!

by Bill Ehleben (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 30 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 5:00:41 PM
 


Lynn Beckman is a freelance writer and political activist. She resides in Colorado with her husband and teenage son.
Lynn BeckmanLynn Beckman is a freelance writer and political activist. She resides in Colorado with her husband and teenage son.

Worse than Bush??

Whether or not one is a Clinton fan, it is inconceivable that anyone would say that he was as bad or worse than Bush. Clinton did not trample on the Constitution, do away with Habeas Corpus, spy on Americans, torture detainees, politicize the Supreme Court or start a war under false pretenses. How many innocent Americans has Bush killed in that fiasco?  There has never been and, God willing, there will never be a president as bad as or worse than Bush.  When we're at war with Iran (and the entire Middle East) then tell me that Bush isn't so bad.

by Lynn Beckman (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 27 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 6:46:31 PM
 


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Hillary Does Not Equal Bill Clinton

Let's keep that simple fact in mind. Her policies resemble so closely corporate Republican policies. She caters so much to insurance interests and other special interest groups that it is flat out ridiculous that anyone would consider her to be different than Bush.

Hillary will give us more of the same. But she is not alone. Other Democrats will too.  

by Kevin Gosztola (235 articles, 127 quicklinks, 72 diaries, 907 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 9:03:08 PM
 


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You're too young to remember, but

Slick willy screwed us on NAFTA, WTO-- he was and is a great friend of globalism and transnational corporations. He moved the Dem party to the right. He is the God of the DLC and his former staffers are the DLC's heart, soul and intestinal tract.

That said, Bill is incredibly charismatic, to which is added the potentiating charisma of being past president of the USA. 

by Rob Kall (869 articles, 4014 quicklinks, 345 diaries, 1846 comments) on Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 5:12:27 AM
 


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Actually, this was one of the first things I learned on Bill

When I was, oh, about 13 or 14 I joined a forum called IHateLiberals.com so I could just irritate conservatives and Republicans with logical reasoning. I made it my job to post material that defended Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and really all liberals. I spoke out against Bush heavily and revealed how "liberal media" is a myth. But the one thing I failed to do is give a good reason for NAFTA. They got me on that one. So, I understand Bill's globalization nightmare that he has brought upon the world and yet people keep buying his book, the most recent one about "Giving".

I wonder if that book is about "giving" the world a difficult life to live. That's what NAFTA does, right? 

by Kevin Gosztola (235 articles, 127 quicklinks, 72 diaries, 907 comments) on Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 9:25:29 AM
 


I am a Vietnam Vet disabled by MS and other various diseases.  On average I am a Moderate with slight Conservative leanings although it truly depends on what issue I am concerned with at the time.
Hayesml47I am a Vietnam Vet disabled by MS and other various diseases.  On average I am a Moderate with slight Conservative leanings although it truly depends on what issue I am concerned with at the time.

Cindy for Pres.

Cindy has hit the nail on the head.  Why do we only get the usual suspects when it comes to candidates.  Gravel and Kucinich are the only 2 that speak the truth and act accordingly.  Neither one of them has much support from the monied people.  The rest of the crowd, Gore, Clinton, McClain, Guiliani, Edwards, Obama, etc., are only politicians and not very good ones at that.  They only say what they think will get them elected and have never considered the truth as an option.  You would think they thought that they would explode if they actual spoke their mind or uttered the truth.  They make the most primal pre-human seem highly intellectual.  Where do these creatures come from?  Why is it so hard to  try to be a true Congressperson or listen to their constituents or even obey their solemn oath?

by Hayesml47 (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 504 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 6:30:47 PM
 


electronic technician, truth seeker
Bob Gormleyelectronic technician, truth seeker

Unfortunately

Unfortunately,

      The Clintons, Bush's , etc. are all in it together. Don't let labels

like "Democrat", "Conservative","Republican", "Liberal", etc. fool you, they 

are all woven from the same cloth. They are "expedient" with their words.

They only speak what serves their own ambitions. You'll hear much talk

and rhetoric from these people and little positive action. They are politicians,

not humanitarians. Never listen to what they say, but observe what they

do and accomplish (if anything). 

by Bob Gormley (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 941 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 8:24:27 PM
 


I am a Mother, Wife, creation of God, a champion of free thought, an idealist, and an author. I am exhaustively trying to spread the idea that to change your world you must first accept it for what it truly is. Opening eyes and minds is my thing, OpEd and my wikizine, Sound Off, are my places. Tune out the rhetoric and the geopolitical illusion and engage in the world around you.
Karma RoxI am a Mother, Wife, creation of God, a champion of free thought, an idealist, and an author. I am exhaustively trying to spread the idea that to change your world you must first accept it for what it truly is. Opening eyes and minds is my thing, OpEd and my wikizine, Sound Off, are my places. Tune out the rhetoric and the geopolitical illusion and engage in the world around you.

Cindy,

How prophetic I fear that article may have been.  She Bush, indeed.

Drasile:

"...Now I read that you, and I empsie You use your name to post a story with the intention of telling us real Democrats not to vote for Hillary. Need I remind you how the world accepts the Clinton name as the greatest American president in the last two decades. So you don't like the Clintons, that's to bad honey because so many do and unless you're a compleat idiot you know how much we need a name like Clinton to repair the ill feelings that have spread through out the whole world..."

I deeply lament the fact that I do agree with you on one point.

The Clinton "name" is probably the best we have had for the past two decades, which attests only to the destructive impact that the Administration has had on our country both within our borders and throughout the world. That should be no matter of pride for the Dems, nor a trait that Republicans should aspire to. It should, rather, be an issue of shame for "we the people".

In fact, we have made quite a habit of choosing piss poor Chief Executives lately. What good has come of the past twenty years, really? I mean, which of these Presidents, say, since the inauguration of Senior Bush, has made us any more friends in this geo-political community? Which has done something to enrich or at least improve the issues of healthcare, homelessness, the economy or our public education system?

Self described "real dems" have done no more to improve America recently than they would attribute to the decisions made by a republican president. Therefore I would implore you to at least entertain the posssibility that in our eagerness to accept and support a bi partisan system, we have slipped a noose around our own necks. We are now in a position that, unless we choose to make a change, will force us continually to pick the "lesser of two evils". There is no longer a distinction between dem or rep.

We are now, at best (for those who believe that we actually have a say in the electoral process) , deciding which puppet we are going to hand our rights to over the course of the next four years. Maybe which one is going to land us in another cold war or , worse yet, an all out nuclear war.

If you really think that pondering that idea is an act of lunacy, or implausible, then your rose colored glasses are in perfect working order. Ms. Sheehan raises some very valid points about the future of our country, and, like so many people, you are still preoccupied with whose side wins. We need more than a name to repair the damage that has been done, we need a better way. Our way is obviously not working.

by Karma Rox (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 9:25:43 PM
 


Erik Larson, Human Being and concerned Citizen. I only advocate and practice non-violent methods of social and political activism & change.
Better World OrderErik Larson, Human Being and concerned Citizen. I only advocate and practice non-violent methods of social and political activism & change.

It's why they're call Republocrats

Dems and Reps that are functionally the same- instead of defending the Constitution and serving the public interest, they're in service to their corporate-elite campaign contributors who put millions in their coffers in exchange for hundreds of millions of $ worth of legislation and government handouts. 


I'd vote for Kucinich or Paul, forget all the top tier of both fake wings- if that's who gets nominated, i'm voting Green. 

by Better World Order (4 articles, 448 quicklinks, 32 diaries, 986 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 10:13:26 PM
 


I was in Dallas when the Bus left the Veterans for Peace Conference for the Bush Ranch. I might be alternative but I am voting for Hilary Clinton. I was invited to the VFP Conference because I had been invited to work for the Satellite Weapons Targetting for the Navy. I was told that there was an Unproclamed War that the American Public did not know. I did not want to take a Security Clearance that might lead to World War III. Instead, I lead a private life. However, in Spring 2001, I was once a...

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JodaI was in Dallas when the Bus left the Veterans for Peace Conference for the Bush Ranch. I might be alternative but I am voting for Hilary Clinton. I was invited to the VFP Conference because I had been invited to work for the Satellite Weapons Targetting for the Navy. I was told that there was an Unproclamed War that the American Public did not know. I did not want to take a Security Clearance that might lead to World War III. Instead, I lead a private life. However, in Spring 2001, I was once a...

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You can Keep the Flashlight

Dear Cindy,

When you needed a flashlight, a young man came to the Veterans For Peace Conference area and I gave him my flashlight to give to you take with you for you to stay outside the Bush Ranch. Now, I would like to give you some light at the end of the tunnel. You are greiving your son. No matter what anyone does or saysk, you are going to be angry.

I am going to vote for Hilary Clinton. There are no candidates more prepared. Americans across this country would rather sit and watch commercials than pay attention to the actual events outside their windows much less a foreign country. Those who do pay attention may project a myriad of emotions and memories. I am really one person who is thinking that I want to vote for Hilary because she is a strong woman, a woman with integrity, one who teaches people; whenever she speaks she listens; she knows the making enemies closes the conversation.

Do you want everyone to show remorse? Your son died for causes that he did not understand. When I joined at age 19 I thought that there were no wars. After two weeks in BASIC, I knew that we were being prepared. I was being recruited into leadership at every turn. And, I knew why. I was intelligent amongst a lot of undereducated young people who joined the military because they were making minimum wage jobs. The military was a chance to earn a regular income and get benefits for their children. Some would have went to the jail system. And, Jena 6 demonstrates how much that system needs change. But I knew at age nineteen that I was heading toward a real war. At the National Guard unit, we were asked to volunteer for several events in foreign countries. I knew that those were not vacations. Even though the 'troop' are not told when they are going to deploy anyone with a mind of their own can sense and know that things are going on. The Gulf War never ended. It might not end.

Yes, cowboy Bush did rush in where angels dare not go. Yes, he was guided under the Evangelic Holy War idealism. The Holy Wars are not fantasy. People really do kill each other over idealism. In fact, Jena 6 is a case in point. It is a case in which race is the idealogical factor that causes two groups of people to fight against each other - war. War is a fact of life. Anger is the cause of war. Ignorance is the fuel that feeds. Our ignorance allows our fear to blind us. In a blind fury, we are capable of doing all the evils we think only other people can do. In our blindness, we think only other people are evil.

I will pray that you will go to the Light and visit your son. In my experience with Nadia's son Patrick, I prelived his death du