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December 31, 2007 at 09:42:48

HUCKABEE & OBAMA on MEET THE PRESS(Dec. 30)

by \"Hoss\" David P.     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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      I just enjoy watching these Sunday morning Talk shows, I always have. I especially enjoy Tim Russert as he is going to make his guests squirm. However I was impressed with the aplomb and honesty of mike Huckabee. After they went through the usual Terrorism stuff Russert started nailing him on his Christian Faith and his pronouncements on Homosexuality and abortion. Agree or disagree with him you have to admire the way Huckabee refused to tap dance and pander. He simply stated his personal views and then stated that this is a nation of laws, not a Theocracy, I paraphrase. He said in essence that there would be no Christian litmus test for people who would work with him in Government. Huckabee defended his tax increases in Arkansas by saying that first the Tax increases were court ordered and then that the money was spent on improving education and infrastructure. His point being that Taxes are not always bad when they go to actually improving the lives of the Tax Payers.

     When asked about his latest polling that seems to have him tailing off some, he said that perhaps the negative campaigning of Mitt Romney was having as effect. It was funny when he talked about Iowans going to their mailboxes and getting all these letters saying what a bum Mike Huckabee is. Huckabee also said that the attacks on John McCain were ridiculous. He said that even though McCain is a rival in these primaries he knows McCain to be an honorable man. Watching McCain and Huckabee take on Mitt Romney and patting each other on the back, you have to suspect an agreement between the two.
    
     Obama had one really good line for my ears that really stood out. He said the difference between him and the others was that the problem with Health care and insurance wasn't Mandates, it was the fact that people simply can't afford it. I think most Americans fear mandatory health Insurance simply because of the inevitable high cost. And a cost that will only rise in proportion to their income being simply taken out of their paychecks with workers having no say.  Obama at least sounds good saying that the costs of Health care and Insurance must come down. He figures if people can afford it, they will buy it. That sounds wonderful and fair some how. So, good luck pulling that off.
Some additional observations:
    
     I don't know Mitt Romney personally but the way he comes off on TV is bad. I just don't like him. I don't know if it is him or his Media handlers. Maybe a little of both. He seems a little cold, harsh, thin skinned and reactionary. He just doesn't have that relaxed poise, his smile seems forced. He's the opposite of Huckabee. Romney always seems to be performing and saying what he thinks people want to hear, where as Huckabee seems to just say what's on his mind. Romney = calculated -- Huckabee = Spontaneous.
    
     None of the Democrats seem to be particularly spontaneous. Obama at least seems somewhat sincere. I think the handlers have ruined the Democratic field of candidates. The speeches are all formula even Obama's. As in, raise your voice and be emphatic right here and bring it home. Perhaps oratory is a lost art. perhaps oratory first requires speaking from the heart. I think when Obama started out he was good. But now the handlers with their demographics and polls have sucked the life right out of his message.
    
     I never heard the name Ron Paul on any of the shows I caught today. Though I didn't see every second of every show.
    
     I'm sure Iowa will be glad when this is over so they can go back to their normal routines. So they don't have to be afraid to watch TV, get their mail or just take a walk around town. However, I'm sure there are many in Iowa who have personally profited from the circus in town, hotels, restaurants, Media outlets etc.

     Well, soon we'll have some Caucus results to consider, but meanwhile in the polls Iowa is a toss up for the Democrats and Huckabee might win for the Republicans.( Though I just read in the Sunday OpEd news letter that Romney has pulled ahead) As we all know, election results can look a lot different than the run up polls. That same can be said of exit polls of actual voters. ha ha  
    
     Guilliani's ad running in Florida is Ironic. He's talking about how Americans will unite when someone tries to steal their freedoms. Oh don't blame Guilliani, all the candidates are on the Establishment message about this Terrorist threat. No Talk at all about opening new 9/11 investigations. Or if there is talk, it is very muted, as in stifled.

 

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"There can be no freedom for a society that lacks the means with which to detect lies." - Guy Debord
Ingrid"There can be no freedom for a society that lacks the means with which to detect lies." - Guy Debord

charm vs. substance

Hi there,

I hope you are also researching these candidates and their positions on the web, since a suave TV appearance doesn't necessarily translate to leadership qualities. I have heard that Mike Huckabee is charming, but I haven't seen him on TV, and everything I read about him has lead me to believe he doesn't really have a strong game plan or even a dependable character. He is pious when it serves him, irreverent when it serves him. He is too quick to defend his generosity toward illegal immigrants as a sort of religious act, attributing it to the "Jesus juice" he drinks.

Hillary is charming too, in her own way, but if people would scrutinize her using all the research tools at their disposal (especially the internet), they would quickly discover some really ghastly truths about her, and the alarming threats that she poses to our country.

It's not good enough that people look snappy and confident on TV.

Here's hoping you are digging deep and enjoying your New Year.

by Ingrid (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 118 comments) on Monday, December 31, 2007 at 4:28:11 PM
 


I am a simple man of eclectic interests and tastes with no particular academic credentials. I still perceive, think, read and write somewhat. Writing music is a hobby of mine

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"Hoss" David P.I am a simple man of eclectic interests and tastes with no particular academic credentials. I still perceive, think, read and write somewhat. Writing music is a hobby of mine

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Oh?

To be honest, I really haven't noticed much substantive differences between the media promoted candidates. Except semantics of course and  emphasis here and there.

The thing is I felt Huckabee was telling his truth. where as I feel Romney is talking from a poll page.  And my article was simply my impressions.

But thanks for your concern and your comment.

by "Hoss" David P. (51 articles, 5 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 338 comments) on Monday, December 31, 2007 at 4:54:49 PM
 


Though I am a graduate of Syracuse University with a major in art and a dream of going to italy to study art, I fell in love and married and had kids, had another marriage, and many life changing events. Primary was since high school dreams that came true. The Kennedy Assassination 4 days prior event was a real eye opener. Caused me to seek with passion why I had that dream and to try to explore the meanings behind events. After reading thousands of books, i became a public speaker in various a...

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JoyceThough I am a graduate of Syracuse University with a major in art and a dream of going to italy to study art, I fell in love and married and had kids, had another marriage, and many life changing events. Primary was since high school dreams that came true. The Kennedy Assassination 4 days prior event was a real eye opener. Caused me to seek with passion why I had that dream and to try to explore the meanings behind events. After reading thousands of books, i became a public speaker in various a...

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Cross Off

Both Hillary and Obama. For whatever devious reasons from DAY ONE the Media has focused on them alone.
Edwards has consistently been an advocate of the poor/middleclass. He has traveled around the world. He cares about kids/people. He volunteers. He KNOWS the heart and mind of America despite his personal wealth. It wasn't handed to him. Heworked hard for his success and money. He has known great personal sorrow losing a 16 year old son. Can't get any worse than that. Though these events are tragic those who rise above them have been forged/ tempered like steel. Edwards has skills at diplomacy and great perceptions and fact finding abilities ala his lawyer success. Few handle Power well. But I do not believe Hillary nor Obama will. He's to young and inexperienced, and as the other message person stated, Hillary has a lot of nasties behind her. ALL DO, ALL are human. But we must have someone who the people like, a family that is respected, Elizabeth Edwards a wonderful, honest, sincere woman. Another kudo for her bravery and strength to fight Cancer. I wish Dennis could win, but here's hoping anyone elected will give him his Cabinet For Peace. I think Edwards is truly for the People.He has courage to state the ills of administration and our gov't. I have lost my attention to Obama. In the beginning yes, but he's lost me. i hope Iowans will vote the right person in!!! Obama strikes me as 'play-acting' as president. Didn't like his cold, vague response to Bhutti"s(?) assassination. Edwards was right on the phone to Musarif. Believe we have in him great diplomatic skills. We don't need promises, 'rock star' people. We need a caring/people orientated person. God knows we've been like a ship without a sail, a boat without a rudder, and we've been alienated long enough from the crowd in Washington. we need to connect with our next president. He with us SINCERELY. No more phonies, no more immature presidents.

by Joyce (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 at 12:57:04 PM
 


I am a simple man of eclectic interests and tastes with no particular academic credentials. I still perceive, think, read and write somewhat. Writing music is a hobby of mine

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"Hoss" David P.I am a simple man of eclectic interests and tastes with no particular academic credentials. I still perceive, think, read and write somewhat. Writing music is a hobby of mine

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The Boat

We're in a boat alright, but we dont own the boat or control the sail. It's not just drifting, it is being steered into the waters of Special interest profits.

Name one pie in the sky promise that Edwards is making that he can deliver for the American people through a congress in the pockets of special interests? Obama is just as bad using his populist platitudes that have no chance of being enacted in this current soft fascist climate. Anything they do get through will only be expensive for us and very profitable for the special interests and create even more useless big Government.

Like the WAR ON TERROR.  Based on a fraud and all it's done is enrich War Profiteers, create useless Government buracracy and threaten and destroy countries abroad. While breaking the treasury to enrich the Banks and curtail Freedom for regular Americans.

When is a candidate going to promise to open a meaningful 9/11 investigation, renounce the WAR ON TERROR, and scale back all this legislation that curtails freedoms and rights for not only Americans, but people captured abroad? That will be the candidate that is truly pro people and anti this soft Fascist status quo.

 Homeland security, air port security, wire tapping.

 

by "Hoss" David P. (51 articles, 5 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 338 comments) on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 at 2:54:55 PM
 

 

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