Scholars and Family Members Submit Request for Correction to 9/11 NIST Report

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April 12, 2007 at 21:21:49

Scholars and Family Members Submit Request for Correction to 9/11 NIST Report

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BERKELEY, CA April 12, 2007 -- A group of scientists, researchers and 9/11 family members challenging the official reports of the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11/01 has filed a Request for Correction (RFC) with the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST).

The Request asserts that the NIST Final Report violates information quality standards, draws inferences that are inconsistent with its own computer simulations and physical tests, and exhibits a significant bias toward a preordained conclusion while ignoring available evidence contrary to it. The Request also says that if this bias is corrected, the NIST simulation clearly indicates that the Towers should not have collapsed due to plane damage and fire. The obvious alternative, which the group says should have been studied by NIST, is explosive demolition.

The group submitting the Request includes 9/11 family members Bob McIlvaine and Bill Doyle, physicist Steven E. Jones, former UL manager, Kevin Ryan, architect Richard Gage, AIA, and the group Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice.

A key theme of the Request is a call for NIST to reveal more of the data behind the Report's statements. Steven Jones, a physicist in Utah, says of the Report, "Among other things, we've found that the Report violates information quality standards by leaving out necessary information which would allow its conclusions to be verified."

But what's worse, Jones says, "when you read the Report, you find some data that don't support the conclusion are simply being ignored. That's a big red flag."

The assertion that the conclusion of the NIST report is incorrect is important, the Request says, because that "would mean that the assumption that foreign terrorists alone carried out the destruction would become a matter of dispute."

James Gourley , the attorney working with the Request group, says the public has a right to see the data and ensure their validity. "We think that the American people deserve the chance to be allowed to analyze the computer models and the calculations that they have paid for. We also think Bob McIlvaine and Bill Doyle , each of whom lost a son in the WTC Towers, deserve a scientifically sound answer from NIST about how their sons were killed."

The group says that a different conclusion better fits the evidence - they believe that pre-positioned explosives were responsible for the destruction of the WTC towers. "It sounds outlandish," Jones says, "But when you look at the evidence, it fits. In fact, many of the physical features of these events -- such as their rapidity, totality, and the observed iron-rich spheres in the WTC dust -- fit the demolition hypothesis and are difficult to reconcile with any of the existing collapse explanations."

A criticism in the Request examines the Report's description of the collapse mechanisms - that once the top portion of the buildings started to fall, the portion below was "not able to arrest this initial movement as evidenced by videos from several vantage points." But NIST, the Request says, must explain why the intact structure below the impact zone offered so little resistance to the collapse of the building."

California architect and member of the Requester group, Richard Gage, AIA, emphasizes that the buildings were designed to withstand 150mph lateral wind loads and even airplane impacts, and notes that vast majority of both towers were not damaged by fire or impact.

"There were 80 to 90 floors of completely intact steel structure below the impact zones, untouched by fire or damage, which had held up the mass above them for decades and, in the case of the perimeter columns, were over-designed by a factor of 20. Also, almost all of the mass of the building coming down from above was being ejected outside the footprint as it fell, so there is not even a "pile driver" to crush the building below, and thus no valid engineering explanation for the failure!" Gage says that the only way to achieve what NIST describes as "'such little resistance [from the structure below to the falling mass above,' was to destroy that solid intact structure with pre-planted explosives."

"It sounds extreme," he says, "even preposterous. But when you set aside your disbelief, you find explosives to be the only valid explanation for the 'collapse' and this explains many features -- such as the virtually free fall speed, symmetry, audible & visible explosions, pulverization to dust of all of the floors, file cabinets, etc. -- that are consistent with demolition style collapses, but not with historical structural failures by fire."

But this Request isn't the only one being made by groups critical of the Final Report conclusion.

Another group -- Fetzer, Wood, Reynolds and Hass -- also filed requests for correction with NIST in the past two months. Their claims include assertions that a directed energy weapon destroyed the World Trade Center Towers, and that real jetliners did not hit the buildings.

"It's a nonsense submission," says James Gourley. He says that such submissions are likely to undermine the legitimate work of others. "By submitting what amounts to nonsense, they basically inoculate people against any other legitimate challenges to the NIST Report." This, he says, gives officials an easy way to avoid serious consideration to all conclusions counter to that of the Final Report.

"It's called discrediting by association," a historic means to marginalize a viewpoint by associating it with transparently flawed or repugnant ideas. "You've got these people saying that real planes didn't hit the WTC towers at all in their submission." Gourley says. "That only discredits the rest of us, regardless of what the real motive behind it is."

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jpsmith123Ex Government Worker

Too bad about the bogus submission by Wood et al.

Given all the other lies and deceptions of this administration (and its well placed Jewish supremacist handlers and facilitators); given the ongoing, long-planned mass murder in Iraq and Afghanistan; the long-planned attempt to start a war with Iran; the demonstrated contempt for the rule of law; the contempt for basic human and political rights, etc., is there any doubt whatsoever that 9/11 was an inside job by the same people?

The bloodthirsty political perverts and their henchmen lied about everything else, and crudely manipulated everything else, but, with regard to 9/11, uniquely, they tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? LOL! Yeah right. Gimme a break...

It seems the state apologists are now clearly on the defensive, and, judging by the desperation evident in their outrageous over-reaction to Rosie's comments, they're getting more than a little worried.

While I personally believe the U.S. will soon be a full-fledged police state (before any justice can be meted out to the responsible parties), we nevertheless don't need anyone helping the murderers out by floating nonsense theories about Star Trek weapons being used to bring down the towers. I wish Wood et al. would retract that submission.

by jpsmith123 (3 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 287 comments) on Thursday, April 12, 2007 at 10:59:11 PM

Mother of 6, grandmother of 16, great grandmother of 36 and great-great grandmother of 2 and loving every minute of it. I want a better world for us all than the mess we have now.
RaeMother of 6, grandmother of 16, great grandmother of 36 and great-great grandmother of 2 and loving every minute of it. I want a better world for us all than the mess we have now.

911

The towers were such an obvious controlled demolition I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can think otherwise..3 buildings came down that day in the same manner..what has been the excuse and coverup of Bldg 7 ? No plane hit that building.

More than enough time has passed for the hysteria & shock of that day to have been replaced by rational common sense, not to mention the track record of this administration and Corporate who have profited from that day for the reality that it was a deliberate act from within to further the gready goals of their long term plans, conceived before they illegally, through election fraud, gained the White House.

Rational thinking is long overdue. Wake up before they completely destroy this country.

by Rae (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 217 comments) on Friday, April 13, 2007 at 2:02:57 PM

Colorado
JimZColorado

Don't be so quick to dismiss the Wood challenge

Laser-type weapons have been under development for years. Witnesses in a number of places across the world have described their use by the U.S.

I'm not ready to eliminate the possibility that they were used on 9-11 until a LOT more information comes out.

by JimZ (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 42 comments) on Saturday, April 14, 2007 at 6:08:19 PM

Iam a mother of two wonderfull kids.I have three chihuahuas and one boxer. Some are my beliefs are that families are very important and that life is to short to have hate in your life and in your heart. And that never go to bed mad and allways tell your loved ones you love them evey chance you can. As for my political beliefs i believe our government should be truthfull to us no matter what and that if they aren't they should be held responsible for their actions.
Mom47Iam a mother of two wonderfull kids.I have three chihuahuas and one boxer. Some are my beliefs are that families are very important and that life is to short to have hate in your life and in your heart. And that never go to bed mad and allways tell your loved ones you love them evey chance you can. As for my political beliefs i believe our government should be truthfull to us no matter what and that if they aren't they should be held responsible for their actions.

911

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what caused the towers to fall like they did. But then again some people are to scared and afraid to even think our own government is even capable of doing something so horrible like 911 to their own citizens. Well it was done by our own government. If one looks at any of the videos of the towers going down you can tell that it wasn't the planes and their impact that caused the towers to fall straight down. When a big building is going to be taken down they use explosives that are placed in different areas of the building.When the explosives are set off the building allways FALLS straight down just like the towers did on 911.You can ask any demolition expert and they will tell you the same as i just did.The question you all that do not believe need to ask your selfs is do you have the courage to seek the real truth or are you going to continue to be scared and afraid because if you are going to continue to believe the every word of our President and the government you will eventually be in for a real shock.

by Mom47 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments) on Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 8:42:03 PM

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