There has been an explosion at Times Square. Traffic is blocked, and subway service is suspended. Police and fire department vehicles are on the scene.
BBC reports, "The explosion appeared to have taken place near a military recruiting station in the square in central Manhattan, reports say.
CNN reports police say it was an incendiary device thrown by someone on a bicycle. "Fears that it may be terrorism related has whole area in a lockdown, CNN reports. "
The explosion was felt by a resident on the 41st floor of a nearby building.
Members of the police department's bomb squad and fire department officials were at the scene."
According to wnbc.com, "The blast is affecting subway service on the following lines: 1, 2, 7, 4, 6, 42nd Street Shuttle, A, C, E, F, D, N and Q Lines."
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This coming right after the Ricin thing, you are now going to see HR 1955 and S 1959 ramrodded through faster than you can say false flag operation.
It is always the same tactics isn't it? The establishment is losing now and it's time for them to start executing the plays leading to the endgame that will allow them to start cracking down on everybody who criticizes the empire, the fascist thugs who run the government and the Wall Street looters who have sold us all down the river.
Just my opinion of course but it is straight out of the CIA playbook.
EE
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Ed Encho (6 articles, 12 quicklinks, 55 diaries, 385 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 7:19:52 AM
Based on previous false-flag attacks, in order to "nationalize" the population, you would expect there would be casualties and the incident would be made to point straight at Al Qaeda or another radical Islamic group. I have no more trust of this administration than anyone else here, in fact, based on first-hand experience, maybe even less, but this one doesn't fit the mold for an incident that could be used to effectively cause much real commotion or long-term political repercussions. Just my opinion, which I'm sure is one of thousands of differing views.
William Cormier
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William Cormier (117 articles, 5 quicklinks, 17 diaries, 292 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 9:00:51 AM
If you check the Global Incident Map there are several so-called terrorists acts every week, approximately 27 of them this week alone. Although most of these so-called terrorist incidents turn out to be false-alarms many also are not. On one hand government doesn't want wide spread reporting on these incidents otherwise that would be an admission of their failure and on the other they will use these incidents to keep the fear pressure on. This one being in downtown Manhattan could hardly be ignored and I believe that government/corporate/media will cherry-pick incidents to report on to further their agenda.
The fact that HR 1955 and S 1959 are still pending (and by all reasoning should never have been proposed) makes anything that happens now suspect in that the powers-that-be would use such incidents to pass these Draconian measures.
Whom ever the fool was that tossed this device did nothing but aid the very forces those of us who are seeking peace are trying to quell. Gandhi had the best method and it's too bad that this country is just to fragmented to be able to use his tactics to any degree of measurable effect.
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Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 1254 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 9:51:54 AM
According to CNN, there were two similar explosions in 2005, one to the Mexican Consulate and one to the British Consulate. The MO was the same, as was the approximate time of the bombing, apparently done at a time where it was not intended to cause injury. It's even possible that it's the work of the same individual(s), but in my opinion, it definitely isn't "foreign terrorism", but the work of someone's demented belief that they "are making a statement."
Well, we've heard the "statement" loud and clear, and while whoever it is may think they are helping some misguided cause - the statement I hear is that whoever it was doesn't value their freedom, the principles we believe in, and should rot in prison for an act of domestic terrorism. I believe the view of the majority of the Progressive/Liberal Community is one that is demanding change and accountability - but as a whole, there are hardly any of us that believe those goals should be accomplished through violence or intimidation. Those who seek change through terrorism, even when it doesn't result in injury or loss of life, are counter-productive to our goals and play into the hands of those that look for excuses to steal more of our freedom and civil liberties.
William Cormier
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William Cormier (117 articles, 5 quicklinks, 17 diaries, 292 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 8:41:10 AM
I still believe that the pen is mightier than the sword, and I urge those who haven't yet read it to see my article, "The Few, The Proud, The Vulnerable" (posted last month). In it, I make clear the problem with current military recruiting policies in our schools. A stand -alone recruiting station is hardly the same sort of operation. What was the point of this violent act? To gain sympathy for the military? Just stupid.
The logic displayed by the bomber(s) is akin to that displayed by abortion clinic bombers. The end in each case justifies the means. The bombings are nothing more than means.
I agree that this bombing, or similarly the bombing of an abortion cinic, is senseless and irrational. In reality, they serve no purpose other than to create fears, angers, and resentment from all sides - except that of the bomber(s).
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Tom Murphy (3 articles, 3 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 1545 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 10:47:49 AM
This act of terrorism must be condemned. I think instead of politicising the incident questions must be put farward to the security agencies as why they failed in nabbing the criminals whether they may have the name of terrorists or some others.
Whosoever doing these type of acts must be brought to the court of law. This is the only solution to the problem.
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Muhammad Khurshid (286 articles, 31 quicklinks, 178 diaries, 145 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 11:30:42 AM
the world's history of 'terrorist' attacks, I truly wonder how many of them are simply of the false flag variety. Now that we have well-supported suspicions as well as good evidence that many of them were perpetrated by the 'state' (generically put) in the time honored 'problem-reaction-solution' mode, how many here would be willing to stake their pensions (those that haven't been stolen) on the proposition that this one is legit?
I sure as hell wouldn't....... Indeed, I might be quite willing to bet the opposite.
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richard (0 articles, 4 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 747 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 12:56:42 PM
Until you have evidence indicative of one theory or another, all that can be said is that someone in a hooded sweatshirt that was riding a bike in times Square is a person of interest with respect to the apparent and planted explosive device that targeted the Armed Forces Recruiting Station in Times Square, New York City in the early morning hours of Thursday, march 6, 2008.
To say anything more or less than this is pure conjecture that will only add confusion once the official review/report has been released. And this kind of additional is unwelcomed to an on-going investigation.
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Tom Murphy (3 articles, 3 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 1545 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 1:43:52 PM
'The' official review/report is LIES, already proven.
The bomb-bursting bicyclist is a hireling of the CIA/Homeland Insecurity, your tax dollars at work.
To intentionally blind yourself into your own oblivion is of no interest to any good people or us. Bite a bullet and go to your damned demise in silence.
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meremark (1 articles, 3 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 483 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 4:06:15 PM
I have a friend who is so quick to allow these events to justify the use of force and the entire "war on terror" nonsense. He text me this afternoon about this incident and of course assigned it as a terror attack.
This stuff can just get worse as we head to the general. The only way McCain wins is through fear.
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Anthony Wade (141 articles, 2 quicklinks, 44 diaries, 454 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 2:06:54 PM
tm said: “To say anything more or less than this is pure conjecture that will only add confusion once the official review/report has been released. And this kind of additional is unwelcomed to an on-going investigation."
Love your use of "this kind of additional"....
BS, Tom. It is perfectly reasonable to make the kind of statement I did, particularly given the history of 'terrorist' attacks and given the fact that this is forum which welcomes opinions, interpretations, speculations and views. And many hypotheses may be entertained.
Obviously, the actual investigators ‘should’ simply follow the evidence. When I provide forensic evaluations that is simply what I do. However, it is also the case that 'investigations' and ‘investigators’ are often much more than that, are frequently very biased and sometimes, it appears, by design. The investigations of the OKC bombing and 911 events are cases in point. Also the terrorist events perpetrated as a part of Operation Gladio. And so many many more.
So, it's very much 'ok' to comment, to interpret and to try to understand the phenomena that occur. Both in terms of the minutia as well as the possible role event(s) play within the larger context.
But, of course, tom, I’m sure you’ll be content with whatever government officials have to say on the matter.…..
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richard (0 articles, 4 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 747 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 3:04:00 PM
There's a big difference between self defense and terrorism.
There are two things for which I will fight to the death and should I die in the process I would die with pride and cause. 1; protecting innocent life. 2; protecting my country's freedom. Those who are committing these crimes are committing an act of terrorism.
What lengths I go to in order to protect myself from these acts is self defense. Whom I am protecting my life or freedom from is no issue as, for me, the final results are the same and unacceptable. In this same respect, if I were to put another's life or freedom in jeopardy that person would have every right to protect himself from my actions, no holds barred. I would be committing an act of terrorism.
There are no wars on our world now. There is only terrorism. Many types of terrorism, violent, psychological, economical, ecological but all terrorism just the same, all meant to frighten people into or out of a particular state of mind or action. In our country, all meant to belie intentions, to steal freedom by undermining the value of the documents which ensure freedom, removing the safeguards meant to protect us from the very people who are perpetrating the acts of terror and misdirecting the acts to others.
This has become so common place in the rest of the world that it has become simple, in this country, to misdirect. Our media is heavily influenced by the establishment and is falsely represented as liberal, thereby not even having to allude to terror as it is assumed that they are reporting in the best interest of the masses, not the establishment. The media never has to make any distinctions between the establishment and the people since the media doesn't even acknowledge the existence of the establishment.
If the people of America do not demand absolute investigation and finality in every possible case of terrorism on our ground they will become mundane acts, perpetrated by the establishment and assumed a foreign threat rather than a domestic attempt of the status quo to inflame the masses, thereby enticing more government interference in the documents which ensure our rights to freedom.
Every time that an incident of this nature occurs without a thorough investigation, followed by the media to its' satisfactory conclusion, to the exclusion of all civil or local involvement or everytime that the Sept.11 attacks are publicly mentioned without an addendum that there has been no finality or exclusion of guilt in regards to the perpetrators of the attacks, or the war in Iraq is mentioned and is not followed with a statement that the war was brought about through the use of lies and falsified information which was compiled by the extreme right establishment and readily acceptable by certain members of all parties of our government although information gained by our allies warranted further examination by organizations independent of our own we have not stood up to terrorism.
Allowing the establishment, the status quo or whatever you would prefer to call the corporate murderers who have overtaken our government to dismiss any of these acts without explanation not only entices them to proceed but to continue using these incidents to future terrorize the masses who have refused to even consider that these acts could possibly have had direct involvement of our appointed (or not) leaders.
As long as there are segments of our population who do not even consider the fact that there are powerful factions within our governing committees who have manipulated our political systems and are in the process of bringing down our constitution we will fail and the corporate status quo will prevail. It is unintelligible, at this point, that so many are oblivious to the undertakings of the extreme radical right whom we should fear as they claim we should fear Islamic radicals. Until these people have been reached we stand to continue losing our fight for freedom.
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PeterJ (7 articles, 2 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 123 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 3:40:33 PM
when the best delivery platform the CIA can come up with is a bicycle, although if it was a bicycle purchased by the DOD it may have cost a million bucks. Reminds me of the pimp driving the VW joke. Can You imagine 007 picking up a supermodel on a ten-speed ? Come on gumshoe dudes, at least a moped or a Pinto , the spy mystique will suffer when this gets out.
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john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 395 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 5:57:51 PM
One reason I'd like to have a chance to become the next Occupant is that I basically intend to give a radio address on this topic. I think we, as a country, basically need to have what amounts to a national sit-down and have a little chat about the future. Obviously, some people out there somewhere, not just in our country, but in other countries too, aren't terribly happy with the old course of human events. Well, what you do, there, instead of having a violent episode or hurting yourself, or someone else, is you try your best to document your grievances, and go have an appointment down at city hall etc. No one's going to hurt you or lock you away for doing that, but I think a lot of people have basically forgotten how to express themselves and find a non-violent outlet for their anger. And, I don't think 'happy pills' are the answer, there. Ya gotta get it off your chest or you just MIGHT do something stupid, like let go of your temper and do something you'll regret later. Best to put it on paper and call for an appointment to have someone listen to you. Don't keep it in, but DO keep it constructive etc. Everyone gets upset, and I think 99.5% of people also have something called, 'self-control'. The more you can develop that, and refine it, the more you'll be able to channel your energy/anger/whatever you've got going there, into something that at least superficially resembles some type of constructive approach to whatever you might percieve to be eating at you....to paraphrase Billary, it only takes a child to raze a village, but it takes an adult to channel anger and indignation into something gainful and productive...
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truthtruffle (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 94 comments)
on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 11:41:54 PM
