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October 25, 2007 at 07:23:28

Interview with Dennis Kucinich; "Fear is not a basis to run a government in a Democracy."

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I interviewed Dennis Kucinich about the details of a plan to refuse to fund the war. What would it look like? He replied with the quote in the title in answer to my comment that Democrats are not refusing to fund the war because they are afraid the Republicans will accuse them of refusing to fund the troops. Here's the transcript of the interview:

RK= Rob Kall

DK= Dennis Kucinich

RK:I'm running a piece on what things would look like if congress refused to fund the war any further.

DK: THis is the way the war can end. The leadership of the house goes to the president and tells the president, "we're not going to provide the funds for the war anymore." That he has to use the money he has in the defense budget to bring the troops and the equipment home. Thatwould cost about $5-10 billion and the money is there to do that now.

Concurrent with that has to be the creation of an internation security and peacekeeping force that would move in as our troops leave. That's what would have to happen. That's the plan that I'm promoting.

RK: What kind of the support do you have for it?

DK: Nationally, tremendous support for it, but in the congress, congress is temporizing on the issue of the war. There is no majority will being expressed here. The leadership has refused to challenge the president directly. Instead, what they're saying is that they don't have the votes to end the war, when in fact, you don't need the votes to end the war. There's an approach being taken that I really disagree with.

RK: DO you have an support in the house, for this?

DK: I think there are probably a couple of dozen members who would generally agree with what I'm saying.

But the leadership has made it very clear that they are not going to cut off funds. They made it clear that they are not going to tell the president that they are not going to fund it. They are going to keep funding it and keep funding it under the notion that notion-- under the fatal notion that this is the way to support the troops.

RK: Usually, in congress you work to put together a bill and pass it. Is there a mechanism, is there a way for you and those couple dozen to organize against further legislation? It's not like you go into committee.

DK: What has to be done has to be done by the leaders. The leaders have to go to the president and tell him, "We're not going to give any more money." It's the leadership that schedules the bill.

RK: THe fact is, if Nancy Pelosi or Harry decided not to let the motion come to the floor, either one of them, all by themselves, could stop this dead in its tracks, couldn't they?

DK:The leadership of either the house of the senate, if either leadership determined, we're not going to let a bill come to the floor of the house or senate, the war would be stopped. They'd have to, essentially, force the presiden't hand on the war.

 

That's what they have to do. They have to take a stand and they haven't done that yet.

t's exactly what they have to do.

RK: How can our readers help?

DK: Urge and send messages to the democratic leadership of the house and the senate, that ending the war doesn't take legislation-- that it takes the will of the leadership to go to the president and say that they are not going to offer a bill-- that the president has to take the steps to bring the troops home. Now a parrallel process must ensue, and that is a peacekeeping and security force in the region would have to be assembled that would come in as our troops leave, because you don't want to leave a vacuum.

Now some people will say, if the congress takes this action, the president is just going to refuse to do anything.

And I would say that's a direct path to his removal from office, because he can't leave the troops out there without protection. And if he's keeping them there, despite the will of the congress being expressed, then he would be in kind of a tough way.

RK: So, the will of the congress will be basically be stated by one of the leaders in either the house or the senate...

DK: Actually, that's what's being done right now, by continuing to fund it. If they determine they're not going to fund it anymore, and tell the president that, then it's over.

RK: The one question I want to be relly clear on, either Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid, individually, could stop this war by going to the president and saying, I'm not going to bring legislation to the floor that will fund the war any further. Either one of those individuals could do now, right?

DK: Nancy works on concensus, with the other democratic leaders. But if the democratic leadership, and I don't work with Harry Reid, so I'm not sure how he works, but if the Democratic leadership went to the president and told him what I told you, we'd be on the way to ending the war.

RK: IF this happened, if we got this to happen, what would you expect the president do? The Republicans? The media? How would they respond to this. It seems to me it is important to plan how to respond to their response.

DK: The American people already made the decision to get out of Iraq by voting for a Democratic house and senate, so the way you respond is to say you are just bowing to the will of the people as expressed in the 2006 election.

RK: There is a lot of talk that the Democrats are afraid of being attacked viciously, if they do this and stop the funding.

DK: Fear is not a basis to run a government in a Democracy.

 

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Plain and Simple

In the past couple of months, how to defund the war has circulated around OpEdNews. There is now no excuse for anyone to not be calling their representative or senator and calling or emailing the Democratic Leadership every morning they wake up to let them know they must be defunding the war. The other thing is people must be demanding impeachment of Cheney then Bush.

We know the situation. Now let's solve it.  

by Kevin Gosztola (146 articles, 30 quicklinks, 59 diaries, 620 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 7:49:03 AM
 


Russ Wellen is the nuclear deproliferation editor for OpEdNews. He's also on the staffs of Freezerbox and Scholars & Rogues."It's hard to tell people not to smoke when you have a cigarette dangling from your mouth."-- Mohamed El Baradei, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency  
Russ WellenRuss Wellen is the nuclear deproliferation editor for OpEdNews. He's also on the staffs of Freezerbox and Scholars & Rogues."It's hard to tell people not to smoke when you have a cigarette dangling from your mouth."-- Mohamed El Baradei, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency  

Two for the Price of One

"Now some people will say, if the congress takes this action, the president is just going to refuse to do anything. And I would say that's a direct path to his removal from office, because he can't leave the troops out there without protection."
End the war and impeach him at the same time!

by Russ Wellen (58 articles, 1029 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 335 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 8:20:22 AM
 


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I don't see anything...

that a thinking person can disagree with Kucinich on.  Please check his issues page if you haven't already. He does his homework, he comes prepared, his values are correct, he has courage.

I have been concerned about how Dennis runs his campaign, but the more I ponder that one, the more I say "Screw the campaigns," save energy; just spread the word to those who will listen. Ignore all others.

by Daniel Geery (26 articles, 55 quicklinks, 121 diaries, 651 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 9:08:52 AM
 


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My conclusion...

is that Pelosi and or Reid could pull the dems together to block funding for the war and stop it. The two of them refuse to do so. They choose NOT to end the war/occupation.

If either one refuses to allow a bill to come to the floor funding the war, that ends it. THen, they have to inform Bush, as Kucinich describes. Then... the shit hits the fan. And that's where the courage to stand up to the expected name calling comes in.

by Rob Kall (691 articles, 3696 quicklinks, 289 diaries, 1352 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 9:05:50 AM
 


Brett Paatsch is an Australian born secular humanist with degrees in management and science and an interest in politics. He is a former pro-American that wishes to be pro-American again and thinks the impeachment and repudiation of President George W Bush for the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is necessary to reestablish trust in American signatures on international treaties and confidence in the global rule of law.
Brett PaatschBrett Paatsch is an Australian born secular humanist with degrees in management and science and an interest in politics. He is a former pro-American that wishes to be pro-American again and thinks the impeachment and repudiation of President George W Bush for the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is necessary to reestablish trust in American signatures on international treaties and confidence in the global rule of law.

Can Kucinich "force" a floor vote, OR get Pelosi on record?

In this article

Kucinich questions Bush's stability, weighs new impeachment effort

Kucinich states:

"I actually am going to be talking to the Speaker about this," Kucinich told the California audience. "I tried to reach her and missed connections. I don't think that Congress can any longer say that impeachment is off the table."

Kucinich has also discussed forcing a House floor vote on the Cheney impeachment measure through the use of a privileged resolution.

"I am seriously thinking about calling a privileged resolution on the impeachment of the vice president and forcing a vote on the floor of the House," Kucinich told radio host Ed Schultz last month. "People have to to stand up and say whether they believe in our Constitution anymore, or whether we are going along with an administration that defies the principles that founded this country."

Procedurally, can Kucinich "force" a floor vote without Pelosi allowing it?

Pelosi is apparently blowing off constituents like Bernard Weiner -

"Nancy Pelosi is my Representative in Congress, and I've written her numerous times to try to find out the reasoning behind her "off the table" decision. Her replies are generic blather without ever responding to the question."

Can Kucinich get Pelosi on the public record with something more specific than "generic blather"?  Can you get Kucinich to get Pelosi on record ?

I want to know what Nancy Pelosi thinks the point of her taking a personal oath or affirmation to support and defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic was.

Having sworn a personal oath to the American people regarding their Constitution, is she or is she not willing to put her party loyalties and her own career second to that oath? If not, then why bother with a personal oath? 

If yes, then how does she reconcile her public statements that impeachment is off the table with her oath and with Article 2 section 4 of the Constitution which states "The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".

I'd like to hear Kucinich ask Pelosi that on the record. Let's get an audit trail down showing exactly where the oaths are being broken so that history will see clearly exactly where and by whom the America experiment was undermined. 

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 2 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 610 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 9:55:47 AM
 


Harpist, unemployed blue collar worker, and Bush basher living deep in the heart of Texas.
PappyHarpist, unemployed blue collar worker, and Bush basher living deep in the heart of Texas.

oh joy...

...a courage we know doesn't exist. We're all fucked!

Blessed be!
Pappy

by Pappy (61 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 828 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 6:22:58 PM
 


Aging bleeding heart liberal who continues to believe in justice and the goodness of some people. I always have hope in a better fairer tomorrow. I do not understand the greed motivation,but I know it is seductive and pervasive.
cluelessflAging bleeding heart liberal who continues to believe in justice and the goodness of some people. I always have hope in a better fairer tomorrow. I do not understand the greed motivation,but I know it is seductive and pervasive.

Universal self Interest in Washington D.C.

Let's just call a spade a spade .The reason politicians ,democratic or republican, will not end their war is MONEY. They do not want to piss-off big donors and make it hard to get campaign contributions for their next election. All these so called ideological nuances do not mean diddly squat. Follow the money. Too many people are getting rich off this quagmire. So what if a few more hundred or thousand soldiers die ,they cannot contribute enough money to off set the big donors, the War profiteers. Let's just get real. We have been sold out again by both sides and until their reelections are assured we will not get any relief for our troops. Politicians are so focused on reelection that the people are immaterial. They forget they need votes and are even helping the corporate world take over our elections so we count less and less. We need to let them all know we are not so dumb as to not realise how we have been ignored. It appears to me the only rational reason to continue a failed and costly policy. .Universal self interest at work. The future only matters if you have power. You cannot defend the indefensible. I know this is very cynical but it all I am are left with.

by cluelessfl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 182 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 9:13:32 AM
 


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Citizens are ultimately in charge

Only a small group of motivated Californians actually voted for Pelosi, and many of them are mad at her. Pelosi may have the power to decide what is on the table in her House, but we don't care for it. She apparently believes her fellow Democrats are making her life difficult for her. She learned government at her daddy's knee and knows ultimately Americans get fed up.

If impeachment is what will clear the air at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, it is Pelosi's call. And when all is said and done, voters will put the pressure on her, not on any of her Democratic factions in Congress. HR333 is stalled. After six months Kucinich is not near getting that into the agenda.

So what should those of us with itchy fingers be doing? If we acted in concert, there would be movement. Should we all take on Cheney's impeachment? That would surely scare the President. I personally don't believe negotiating with Bush will get any action. There are plenty of folks here in traditionally Republican East Tennessee who would like to see the troops home, Bush out of the Oval Office, and less worry over their future.

If this were a year later and we wanted a Democrat to win, most of us would be writing online newspapers all over the country. Maybe we can use such an approach in a concerted way. Any thoughts?

by Margaret Bassett (17 articles, 704 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 389 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 9:13:54 AM
 


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Freedom is Freedom from War!

Sounds good Dennis and Rob. The next question is what force is coming to fill in? The UN? Haven't they withdrawn from Iraq? Haven't many of the Coalition Partners withdrawn? So we are asking them to really return right?

And how about the new conflict raising its head with Turkey now invading N. Iraq? Would they be considered one of the forces to fill in the vacuum? What about Iran? Is Iran welcome to to maintain stability in the region, given Bush's recent WWIII rants?

I am all for ending the war, but how about DU contaminiated soldiers returning? What are we doing about that mess? Who is cleaning up DU radiation in Iraq, and testing soldiers before they return? Who makes sure they leave old clothes and stuff there? Who provides the new fatigues, and the decontamination transition? And if they do, do this; does this mean the Pentagon admits its role in using illegal DU in Iraq? And who does the legal work to administer a hefty fine to the Pentagon and President, along with impeachment?

And so if Harry and Nancy neglect the fine points of the day, before they put their foot down in no more funding, aren't they really a disservice to us and their constiuents? And who cares for the Iraqis with DU medical bills? Osama? Why don't we make friends with binLadin so they can fill in the vacuum? Is that a no go in the political talk of the day?

What I want to know is if we have not stopped funding to Japan and S. Korea yet, how in the world are they going to do it now in Iraq? That is if they get the President to believe he has won over there? When does the funding stop in Asia?

Then we have the idea that if President Bush is impeached we have another issue and that is Iraq will come forward in a court of law and seek compensation for the thousands of innocent lives killed by Bush. Doesn't impeachment imply he is in the wrong. And if we are quibbling about funding more for the war as it is now, won't those lawsuit awards be much greater in comparison?

I don't think Dennis had really thought it all out yet...because of the huge mistake this turkey bird Bush has created. I say (words delted by editor because they call for violence) and claim we are sorry for the calamity he has brought to the world. Please don't ask us to pay for a deadmans crime!

This is so terrible, but we have to face it. Go forth Dennis..I know you are a good man.

by Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 934 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 9:41:45 AM
 


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john riggsSW Texas ultra-liberal

I am NOT buying it

Nader claimed They wont impeach for fear dubya will bomb Iran, declare martial law and cancel the elections. Why is it they claim to fear everything but special interest and underage boys and girls? I have another explaination. With the exception of Paul,Kucinich, that one black lady and one young dude from Ohio all the rest are a bunch of traitors. Failure to impeach is complicity. Funding genocide is complicity. I have absolutely no sympathy for the poor widdow scared panty-waste bribe takin back-stabbin globalist sons-of-a-biscuit. The whole lot of them (that have not signed on for impeachment) should be hanged for treason along with the entire executive branch. I think we should all pray that an earthquake would shake DC so the ground would open up and devour the capitol and the whitehouse, and the CIA and the IRS and then the earth could conveniently close back up and no more crooks.

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 297 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 5:11:53 PM
 


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Hasten slowly

Kucinich can say what he want because he has no power therefore it won’t be put to the test.

Practical logic dictates that the Bush cabal won’t just roll over his group are zealots. He will go for a stand off; he’ll/they use the troops as a bargaining chip.

His whole behaviour in power has been to ignore that which he doesn’t like. They believe they have God on their side. Anyone who would willingly declare war knowing the premise is bogus doesn’t care about normal issues. Ask yourself if they’ve nothing to lose, their run in power is virtually at an end they would be prepared to risk/sacrifice a few more for their cause.

They’re banking on the public’s ‘liberal’ views to relent. He may very well use Iran as a bargaining chip (another million or two innocent lives).

Secondly the international force… how long do you think that will take to put together? Especially since all the allies want out now?

Unpalatable as it may be without a majority to override his Veto Pelosi and Reed are doing the wisest action, working towards a majority that can bring the troops home.

The whole Bush debacle shows that the president’s ability to seize power needs to be curtailed for the sake of the country.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 532 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 5:45:55 PM
 


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I Stand Corrected!

Sorry Rob, but I didn't think it called for violence in the deleted comments. In fact many orderly executions go forward in a court of law daily. My only difference is where they did it. Strange isn't it that Bush gets Prime Time to solicit words of violence, yet when the public uproars to it, we are held accountable, not him! This administration would probably have no qualms about it since they support public executions in Saudi Arabia.

But you are right! We need more People who talk against violence, the problem is how to rally to obtain justice. Maybe there is no justice in the world, just wanton acts of violence that claim the gavel of justice served.

by Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 934 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 8:29:29 PM
 


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Gary DeVaneyAuthor of thegodmurders.com

Behaviorist, political critic, realist.

Support the troops?

The Bush gang and its propaganda media war-hawks constantly accuse the Congress, Senate and the American people that unless they continuing to pay-up the billions that Bush demands, they are not supporting the troops. That's a lie. The Congress and the Senate support the troops by getting them out of this no-win war and bringing them home.  

So, if President George W. Bush were honest, which he hasn't been since the beginning of his Presidency, he would accuse the Congress, Senate and the American people that unless they continue to pay the billions, they are not supporting his imperialistic agenda. His agenda would not be supported and his war would be over.

It is obvious that the troops are to serve - and the believers are to support Bush - on his terms. Unless the troops and the public serve Bush on his terms, they are his enemy. He calls them / US "terrorists". Either way, Bush's attitude and behavior has always been - his troops are expendible and that he doesn't have to explain his actions to the public.

 President George W. Bush has exposed US as the evil empire. Mind-set believers won't open their eyes to the exposure. "Might makes right", "My God, my President, my Country right or wrong has made US evil.

Regards, Gary DeVaney

by Gary DeVaney (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 14 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 8:56:39 PM
 


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Iraq

The problem for Dennis is that he is proposing an international solution to this conflict when the government has identified a US imperial solution.  The current plan, supported by US imperialists of both parties is to use Turkey (Who will be promoted as the 'natural' leader of Islamic nations) to pressure the Kurds, for the US to bomb the Iranian relatives of the Iraqi Shite elite and the Shite to pressure the Sunnis.  This will put pressure on all parties to sign an power sharing agreement which allows the US to keep control of and most of the profits flowing from Iraqi oil.

 

by kwalsh (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 71 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 9:18:43 PM
 


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An honorable Congress?

My question is, just how honorable is Congress? If we look at its actions, there isn't an honorable bone in 90% of the members. Just how many are profiting from the war themselves, and are thereby personally complicit in the travesty? If you are the least bit guilty of the crime, I guarantee that when push comes to shove, you will side with the perpetrators.

by Barbara Peterson (42 articles, 50 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 358 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 9:31:19 PM
 


JUST A CONCERN CITIZEN AND LOVE MY COUNTRY GREW UP IN A SMALL FISHING TOWN IN NJ,BUT THE DAY I GOT MY DRIVERS LICENSE,SPENT MOST OF MY TIME EXPANSING MY MINE. LEARNED A LOT THE HARD WAY,BUT MOSTLY STREET SMART. AT 65 HAVE PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHO THE SNAKES ARE.
RICHARD SHADEJUST A CONCERN CITIZEN AND LOVE MY COUNTRY GREW UP IN A SMALL FISHING TOWN IN NJ,BUT THE DAY I GOT MY DRIVERS LICENSE,SPENT MOST OF MY TIME EXPANSING MY MINE. LEARNED A LOT THE HARD WAY,BUT MOSTLY STREET SMART. AT 65 HAVE PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHO THE SNAKES ARE.

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

WHAT YOU SAID IS RIGHT ON THE( MONEY), LET AD SOME MORE TRUTH ENOUGH CONRESSMEN AND SENATORS ARE MEMBERS OF THE CFR, AND WILL DESRUPT THE VOTING, SO NO BILLS TO END THE WAR OR DEFUND IT WILL EVER PASS. THEY ARE FOLLOW CFR'S AGENDA, THATS THE CONTROL THE CFR TC GLOBALISTS HAVE ON OUR GOVERNMENT. AND I HEARD THAT IF THEY PUSH BUSH TO HARD, HE WILL BOMB IRAN, AND THEN ORDER MARSHALL LAW AND CANCEL THE 2008 ELECTION, THIS SOUNDS WAY OUT THERE, BUT HE HAS PASED ALL THE PRESIDENTIAL ORDERS TO GIVE HIM THE POWER TO DO WHAT EVER HE SEAMS FIT. AND WHO IS GOING TO STOP HIM. AND THIS ALSO CAN HAPPEN IF SOMEHOW ONE OTHER THAN A CFR CANDIDATES FROM EITHER PARTY IS NOT ELECTED PRESIDENT, SO BY THE TIME A NEW PRESIDENT IS ELECTED AND WHEN HE OR SHE IS SWORN IN IS ABOUT A 45 DAYS, THE WINDOW WILL BE OPEN FOR BUSH ???????????????

by RICHARD SHADE (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 459 comments) on Friday, October 26, 2007 at 4:38:59 AM
 


Jim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.
Jim FreemanJim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.

YOU CAN SLICE IT AND DICE IT

ANY WAY YOU PLEASE, BUT NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL PEOPLE ARE IN THE STREETS IN HUGE NUMBERS.

'HEY, HEY, LBJ, HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY?'

JOHNSON HEARD THEM. WE ARE AT A TIME OF THE GREATEST DANGER TO THIS COUNTRY I HAVE SEEN IN EIGHT DECADES AND NO ONE WILL GET THEIR FAT BUTTS OUT INTO THE STREETS. DON'T TALK TO ME OF POLICY AND PLANS AND PRESSURE. NONE OF IT WILL WORK UNTIL AMERICA MARCHES.

NO ONE FOLLOWED MARTIN LUTHER KING JR'S WORDS--THEY FOLLOWED HIS SHOES INTO THE SOUTH. THAT WAS FOR THE FREEDOM OF BLACKS. WE ARE ALL BLACKS TODAY.

KUCHINICH CAN'T FIX YOUR AND MY PROBLEM FOR US.

by Jim Freeman (107 articles, 39 quicklinks, 125 diaries, 296 comments) on Friday, October 26, 2007 at 3:37:19 PM
 

 

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