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September 27, 2007 at 22:18:48

Saddam Could Have Been Removed Without Iraq War

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Saddam offered to go into exile if allowed to take a $billion dollars with him. Bush turned him down and began an unnecessary war.

In February 2003, George Bush told the former prime minister of Spain, Jose Maria Aznar, that Saddam Hussein had offered to go into exile, but that he would reject the offer, and that the US would be at war with Iraq by March of 2003. the Financial Times reports.

Hussein had offered to go into exile for $1 billion dollars.

The Financial Times based its report on a leaked transcript of a conversation between Bush and Aznar, stating,

Outlining contacts between Saddam and Egypt, Mr Bush said: “He’s indicated he would be prepared to go into exile if he’s allowed to take $1bn and all the information he wants about weapons of mass destruction.” Mr Bush ruled out such a deal, describing Saddam as “a thief, a terrorist, a war criminal”.

It appears that the Iraq war, sold as necessary to rid the world of Saddam, justified as worthwhile after the war was under way, after the occupation had cost the US thousands of lives and cost the Iraqis hundreds of thousands of innocent victims. was not necessary.

Would this going to war on another lie be enough for Nancy Pelosi to put impeachment back on the table?

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STOP THE INSANITY.....IMPEACH NOW! (before Dubya Gump does anymore damage, such as, helping co-ordinate Israel's bombing of Iran's nuclear reactor which will lead to a war with Russia and China)
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BenMarbleMDSTOP THE INSANITY.....IMPEACH NOW! (before Dubya Gump does anymore damage, such as, helping co-ordinate Israel's bombing of Iran's nuclear reactor which will lead to a war with Russia and China)
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Nancy Pelosi ain't gonna rock the boat...

she is a SPINELESS WEASEL

by BenMarbleMD (22 articles, 0 quicklinks, 197 diaries, 293 comments) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 11:08:37 PM

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Pelosi can't

Politics is about numbers, if you’ve the numbers you’ve the power....she simply doesn't.

Most bills are passed by negotiation between the parties. If you're facing party politics (political face, which can mean jeopardizing future electoral support for the GOP) then potentially face losing negotiation “aint gonna happen”. In politics face is more important than lives etc. hence GWB's determination to have troops in Iraq when he leaves office. Lives mean nothing.

If Mrs. P were to 'rock the boat' it would be a pointless token gesture and can't succeed at the moment. She pragmatically can only get on with what she can.

It's the way your system is structured.

Under the Westminster Parliamentary system Bush would have gone a long time back ousted by the ambitions of other party members.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 531 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 6:24:20 PM

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Bush is completely; a dirty four letter word.

I know it was a lie, but I don't believe the details of 1 billion$'s and taking information on weapons of mass destruction. Why would Saddam want the US to know what he wanted? He could have just said don't attack, I will leave Iraq and go into exile. No one would have known. Everyone makes Saddam look like a fool. You can tell this story is from the right to stir up the hypocrisy. That's what they live on.

What is clear about this whole fiasco is that diplomacy does work, and Bush is a complete fool and failure. Compare 1 billion to give Saddam and not have war to what we have spent already according to MSNBC is over 1.5 trillion dollars. Thousands of lives are far more valuable than a price tag attached, so I think it far exceeds 100 trillion dollars; given now the DU contamination in rivers and water wells, in fields and farmland, in crops, and animals. People will be dying fom Du for years in the future....and this is only for Iraq. We still have another price tag for Afghanistan.

Can we believe Bush really got justice for taking out Saddam? Look at who really is now doing the suffering. Not Saddam anymore, but the American people and future generations. The next question is who applies justice toward the fool who wanted justice, Bush had an opportunity, but decided that was not good enough? Bush is completely; a dirty four letter word.

by Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 11:51:01 PM

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Oil is the point of it all

If they'd allowed Hussein to "just leave" then the iraqis would've been free to decide to decide for themselves who to do business with oilwise.

But it should be pretty clear by now the 'liberation of Iraq' was never really their motivation.

by chariotdrvr14 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 125 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 1:18:05 AM

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this kinds of seals the story

This is the biggest lie of all-- that they needed to go to war to remove Saddam. There were rumors of this in 2003.

This should set people in the streets, and start hearings in congress for impeachment. If Hillary knew about this, if any legislator knew about this, they should all lose their jobs if they voted for the war. If they didn't know, then the lies to bring us to war are even worse than ever and Pelosi should drop her objections to impeachment.

by Rob Kall (805 articles, 3917 quicklinks, 331 diaries, 1697 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 5:53:17 AM

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"Too Much Simplicity on Both Sides of this Story"

Saddam goes, everything fine. Nice thought, but what does it mean that 'Saddam goes into exile?'

Who do we get? Uday? Do the Iraqi people suddenly become 'free?' It was a typical and easy stretch of the truth (who would call it a lie?) to tell the American people this was about removing Saddam and bringing 'democracy' (another loaded word) to Iraq.

This is a hugely complicated story that the world now wants to see in terms of 'Saddam would have gone into exile and we didn't need this war.'

The fact is that we didn't need this war under any circumstance other than an act of aggression on Iraq's part. This is the first ever American war of pre-emption, an enormous mistake and a dereliction of all this country stands for. We are paying a wicked price for it. It was a wicked act by a gunslinging phony cowboy, who will (if this country ever comes to its senses) be impeached for it.

But the removal of one man never was a solution.

by Jim Freeman (108 articles, 51 quicklinks, 216 diaries, 382 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 6:38:19 AM

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Buying them out

Buying them out actually did work once. I will admit it was centuries ago.

Look up China and Cheng I Sao the pirate.

by Willard Russell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 41 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 8:53:29 AM

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Saddam Resign? NO way!

The real Neo Con agenda was (still IS) to create a huge stinking bloody swamp in the Middle East in order to build a giant justification for Blackwater, Halliburton, Custer-Battles, GE, DynCorp and the rest of the corporate Murder-for-Hire gang to freely dip into the US treasury with no-bid contracts for the next several generations.

Saddam was just the stupid sap who provided them with a figurehead of an excuse for a "designated enemy."

Remember: After the Soviet Union retired from their role as designated boogie man, the M.I.C. were in danger of losing their grip on the US economy. So they employed Rand and other think tanks to create a new revised game plan. They needed a new and credible threat to rattle at the American people to make them WILLING to pay for more weapons. Because making tools to fry and cripple children is the only thing they know how to do!

A big part of the Neo Con's overall plan is to MAKE ENEMIES. They want to make Muslims in the Middle East hate us. The Neo Cons WANT to create a whole generation of new enemies so their game plan is to offend and create so much outrage in the Islamic countries of that region that whole populations of young devout Islamic men will "volunteer" to make Jihad on the Great Satan.

WHY? Because the real truth is the NeoCons have no other choice. They only have one trick and it is this: "WAR is our business. Our ONLY business. We earn our daily bread by designing and building weapons of war. We need to frighten normal Americans so they will gladly pay us for the protection we offer. IF we don't have anyone volunteering to play the role of the enemy, we will CREATE an enemy. Our research has determined that young (brown) Muslim men are the to be the 'designated enemy' so we have embarked on a new concentrated program of making them as pissed off as humanly possible."

It's all about money (and racism is but one of the key methods the Neo Cons plan to exploit in order to continue acquiring it.)

Saddam was just one of their tools.

by mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 295 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 11:03:40 AM

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Yep and Ahmadinejead's the next Saddam

They're setting him up the same way.

by Rob Kall (805 articles, 3917 quicklinks, 331 diaries, 1697 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 11:22:34 AM

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If Pelosi & the Dems ignored the entire "Downing St memo",

they can ignore this too.

Let's remember that in 2004, John Kerry & the Dems ran an entire presidential campaign without even saying a word about Abu Ghraib or the fact that there turned out to be no WMD. They never even challenged Bush on his attempt to blame the "missing" WMD on "flawed intelligence." They never said, for example, "Mr President, I'm sorry, but that's just not good enough! You led our country into war, and now you try to blame it on 'flaws' in the intelligence? Where is your sense of responsibility!?!? Doesn't the buck stop with you??"

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Saddam Could Have Been Removed Without Iraq War

Ho, Hum, Yawn, So, this is supposed to be news ?

The rest of the World were aware of Saddam offering to leave at around the same time he produced his documentation to the U.N. It wasnt a big secret on the World scene of things.

However, it would appear, the U.S. and it's media/Govt/Citizens chose to ignore what the rest of the World already knew, and now, 6 year later it's claimed it NEW NEWS ? Yu gotta be kiddin me ?

Listen up folks, if you've been kept in the dark on this issue as well as thousands of others, why do you all believe the hype being espoused regards Iran ?

Clearly, the majority in the U.S. couldnt find their way out of a wet paper bag if their lives depended on it.

by Eddy Schmid (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 201 comments) on Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 4:27:35 AM

A NeoCon Setup I think!

ah.. but it is the Media who is running this story again right? They are looking back at quotes and meetings with various heads of state to include the Pres. of Spain. If the press is run by the NEOCONS why are they rehashing this stuff? Probably because they are looking for incriminating evidence. So it's news again....to add to a cause to level impeachment hearings, and when Nancy Pelosi breaks and gives in to leveling charges and tables impeachment, that is when George launches his war with Iran.

The impeachment will be taken off the stove, and then we have a protracted war with Iran, something to make the Iraq war look like a picnic. It fits nicely into their plans because anything we do to rock the boat, gives the excuse to attack Iran. That's why they run the story, to stir the pot and get reactions. In fact I think Bush and Cheney welcome impeachment to come, because it opens them up to waging War on Iran.

They don't care...it means War to them something they want.

I agree that Nancy should not level impeachment now, but wait for him to leave office, then have Congress go after him in a post impeachment, explaining the trap and the diligence used to prevent war.

by Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments) on Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 7:07:49 AM