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May 10, 2006 at 23:00:00

Headlined on 5/10/06:
Poll: 2004 Election Was Stolen; according to viewers of all news networks except Fox News

by Rob Kall     Page 1 of 2 page(s)

http://www.opednews.com


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Who are these Fox viewers. OpEdNews gives you the details.

In the first poll of its kind, (using First choice of TV news network as a demographic variable)OpEdNews.com, in the second OpEdNews/Zogby People's poll has learned that except for viewers of right wing news show, Fox News, poll respondents believe that the 2004 presidential election was stolen.



Overall, the poll of Pennsylvania residents found that 39% said that the 2004 election was stolen. 54% said it was legitimate. Shortly after the election, the NY Times suggested that a few fringe extremists and bloggers were concerned about the theft of the election.

But let's look at the demographics on this question. Of the people who watch Fox news as their primary sourc of TV news, one half of one percent believe it was stolen and 99% believe it was legitimate. Among people who watched ANY other news source but FOX, more felt the election was stolen than legitimate. The numbers varied dramatically:


Here are the stats by network listed as first choice by respondent and whether the respondent thought the election was stolen or legitimate.
Network Stolen Legitimate
ABC 56% 32%
CBS 64% 31%
CNN 70% 24%
FOX .5% 99%
MSNBC 65% 24%
NBC 49% 43%
Other 56% 28%


The poll asked people which was their favorite source of TV newst. Among the 689 people in the poll who answered this question, 37% watched Fox news, more than any other single network. CNN came in second with 21% with MSNBC third, with 13%. It makes sense for these three 24/7 news networks to be the top in this category, since the others air news for limited parts of the day.

A lot more information on Fox News viewers :

After Fox news, the second choice for news network among Fox viewers is ABC 38% and MSNBC 37%, followed by CNN with 27%, NBC with 19% and CBS with 6%.

74% of it's viewers are married. 15% are single and 10% are divorced, widowed or separated. Whether they are fair and balanced, is up for debate. But they appear to be THE family channel, at least for Republicans. 64% have children. 85% of them come from non-union families. Among churchgoers, half go to church, temple or mosque rarely, never or just holidays. But for Fox News Viewers half go frequently. Among NBC viewers, 67% go most frequently. NBC has the most religious viewers. More born-agains watch NBC; 54% to 46%, and Born Agains are least likely to watch ABC: 95%/5%, MSNBC 78%/22%, CBS 76% to 24% and CNN 65%/35%. More Catholics, Protestants and Born-agains watch Fox news than any other news network.

82% of people who identify themselves as conservative and 80 of those who consider themselves very conservative watch Fox News. Zero liberal or progressives watch Fox News as their first choice, and 42% of moderates chose FOx news as their first choice. The first choice of progressives (very liberal) is Other, assumingly C-Span and the like. The first choice of Liberals is CNN.

Fox news is the favorite of suburban, small city and rural dwellers. CNN is the first choice of large city dwellers.


Among immigrants Fox news is the top favorite.

46% of men and 30% of women watch Fox news.

Less than 2% of Democrats favor Fox news, while it's the favorite for 75% of Republicans and 34% of independents. For Republicans and independents, Fox is the network that is first choice. CNN is viewed as first choice by Democrats, with 38% choosing it.

The OpEdNews.com/Zogby People's Poll, with 42 questions, also found that the PA US Senate Race, with Rick Santorum, is not at all like other polls have reported. While Casey Has a 47-37% lead. He has spent millions of dollars to get it. His opponents Chuck Pennacchio and Alan Sandals are both within similar range, with 45% and 43% with Pennacchio having spent under $100,000 and Sandals having spent under $500,000. Both the current and a previous OpEdNews/Zogby people's poll found, that after respondents were given position information on the candidates, that Casey's lead disappears and he pulls a smaller percentage than either Pennacchio or Sandals.

We are waiting on further crosstab analysis of the data. We believe that we will find that if you pull out Fox viewers, the rest of America has a far different view of America and the Bush Administration

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Rob Kall is executive editor and publisher of OpEdNews.com, President of Futurehealth, Inc, inventor . He is a frequent Speaker on Politics, Impeachment, The art, science and power of story, heroes and the hero's journey, Positive Psychology, Stress, Biofeedback and a wide range of subjects. He is a campaign consultant specializing in tapping the power of stories for issue positioning, stump speeches and debates. He recently retired as organizer of several conferences, including StoryCon, the Summit Meeting on the Art, Science and Application of Story and The Winter Brain Meeting on neurofeedback, biofeedback, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology. See more of his articles here and, older ones, here.

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Mark is an anti-civilizationist in San Diego.
Mark E. SmithMark is an anti-civilizationist in San Diego.

The Media's Iron Curtain

I don't need a poll or an analyst to tell you about the people who watch FOX News, believe the government's story about 9/11, or don't think elections are stolen.

Some years back when the right wing took over our mainstream media and the last remaining leftist talk show host went off the air in San Diego, I did what any intelligent person living behind an iron curtain does: I bought a short wave radio. Then I bought a computer. And last year a friend in Germany set up a website where four of us, one in Boston, one in Canada, me, and him, post and discuss the news of the world. We usually have excellent knowledge of what is going on even if the media here misreports, slants, buries, or ignores it. Our Canadian user just posted the list of the top 25 underreported stories of 2005, and we'd devoted extensive space to almost every story on the list.

People who still rely on the mainstream media for news are right-wing, ignorant, and/or have little knowledge of history. They don't want more than one side of any story. And they care more about sports, fashions, movie/tv celebrities, and cars, than about world events. They are the kind of people who go along to get along, even when what they're going along with are wars of aggression, torture prisons, illegal wiretapping, xenophobia, and other clear indications of a fascist regime. They're like the "good Germans" of WWII, and their expected claim afterwards that they didn't know what was going on will be partially true, but only because they don't want to know.

Even sources like Air America Radio and blogs like Daily Kos, often discourage discussion of important topics. If you want the real news about something going on in the world right now, go to the Indy Media site for that area. There are Indy Media sites almost everywhere, and very few major cities or countries are without one. Each Indy Media site has links to all the others. Why get your news second- or third-hand, when you can get it from people on the scene?

Lately I've started donating to and volunteering with my local Indy Media site. The media and government are just like anything else -- if you want it done right, you have to get in there and do it yourself. Paying someone else to do a job for you might or might not bring the same results.

There is a reason I read and contribute to opednews. Rob Kall understands the problem and is part of the solution. That's my bottom-line criterion for a news source and if we truly want an informed electorate, it will have to be everyone's.

by Mark E. Smith (20 articles, 26 quicklinks, 63 diaries, 761 comments) on Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 10:41:42 AM
 



John wayne

I am shocked

Viewers of the drive by media think that the elections was stolen, wow I am really shocked, not!

by John wayne (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 29 comments) on Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 3:00:36 PM
 


Mark is an anti-civilizationist in San Diego.
Mark E. SmithMark is an anti-civilizationist in San Diego.

So you prefer the couch-potato media?

In that case why is a drive-by troll like yourself posting here?

by Mark E. Smith (20 articles, 26 quicklinks, 63 diaries, 761 comments) on Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 4:02:37 PM
 



Free Spirit

I don't watch any of them

I don't watch network or cable news. I think it would have been interesting to include people in the sample who don't rely on these outlets at all.

by Free Spirit (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, May 12, 2006 at 2:12:30 PM
 



John wayne

No Subject Entered

To help you not make of fool of yourself, if possible.

But, if you want to fall victim of rhetoric, be my guest.

by John wayne (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 29 comments) on Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 4:34:52 PM
 


Mark is an anti-civilizationist in San Diego.
Mark E. SmithMark is an anti-civilizationist in San Diego.

The sneering snark

Twas brillig and the sneering snark
Did jeer and jumble on the blog
All frothy were his mumbleswipes
And his gnome wraths outgrabe!

(With apologies to Lewis Carroll)

by Mark E. Smith (20 articles, 26 quicklinks, 63 diaries, 761 comments) on Friday, May 12, 2006 at 10:12:26 AM
 



Free Spirit

Limitations of the Data

"We believe that we will find that if you pull out Fox viewers, the rest of America has a far different view of America and the Bush Administration."

But this poll didn't sample Americans. It only sampled that teensy tiny group of Americans that have volunteered to participate in Zogby polls. And I'm pretty sure these folks are a long, long way from being typical Americans, most of whom have never even heard of Zogby polls.

by Free Spirit (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, May 12, 2006 at 2:04:18 PM
 


Mark is an anti-civilizationist in San Diego.
Mark E. SmithMark is an anti-civilizationist in San Diego.

Don't Blame Zogby!

The mainstream media and big corporate pollsters are the ones who have been coming out with things like Bush's low approval rating.

I've seen them pull polls from MSNBC, CNN, and other sites when the results didn't come out the way they wanted. Polls with hundreds of thousands of responses are hard to freep.

Zogby has an excellent track record, and weights their polls to account for demographic limitations. If anything, they tend to be conservative with their numbers so as to maintain their credibility.

Face it -- no matter how you look at it, people are fed up!

by Mark E. Smith (20 articles, 26 quicklinks, 63 diaries, 761 comments) on Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 12:11:42 PM
 



Merican

Inaccuracy in your report

Your article says:
"The OpEdNews/Zogby People's poll clearly shows that Fox News is the only thing keeping the Bush administration from being thrown out of office and into jail. "

Your report does not support this. If you understand statistics and want to keep the same tone, you would say that viewers of Fox News are "the only thing keeping the Bush administration from being thrown out of office and into jail."

The evidence you present suggests that the viewers select Fox because it refelects their prior point of view. Your statement undermines your credibility.

by Merican (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 12:59:05 PM
 


Recently retired activist with an MA in Public Policy from an Ivy League school. A born again believer who also believes in the separation of church and state and is outraged that the Word of the Lord has been highjacked to justify the actions of the current administration.
macdon1Recently retired activist with an MA in Public Policy from an Ivy League school. A born again believer who also believes in the separation of church and state and is outraged that the Word of the Lord has been highjacked to justify the actions of the current administration.

News for the Sheeple

Mainstream news is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator in society. It is news for the sheeple who are just baa-ing around and grazing,unaware of the slaughter to come. No wonder Bush and his cronies would like to muzzle the internet. Guess I will think about getting a short-wave radio.

by macdon1 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 68 comments) on Sunday, May 14, 2006 at 4:27:18 PM
 

 

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