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April 6, 2008 at 15:14:44

Progressive Values Stories: Jeremy on Responsibility

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 I met Jeremy at a Wellstone training in Sacramento, California. He feels that responsibility is the most important progressive value and that conservatives have falsely  defined democrats, liberals, and progressives as "tax and spend." He feels it's good that progressives are now speaking out about their values and that they actually are about fiscal responsibility.

Responsibility, n.  A detachable burden easily shifted to the shoulders of God, Fate, Fortune, Luck or one's neighbor.  In the days of astrology it was customary to unload it upon a star.  The Devil's   Dictionary

Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.  George Bernard Shaw

Progressive Values Stories: Jeremy on Responsibility

 

My name is Jeremy.  I’m a progressive.

Edwin:  Can you tell me what you feel progressive values are?

Answer:  I think progressive values have been shaped by awhile by the opposite side, of what we are not.  Now it’s starting to become more of what we are.  And I think progressive values are now expanding to include even things that are considered to be conservative values.  Like fiscal responsibility.  Using finances in a way that actually invests in our future and doesn’t waste money, like on wars that do nothing for us.  On wasted projects – pork spending and what not. 

I think progressive is about using the resources we have as a country, and using them for good causes, to build a future and to reach out to people in general.

Edwin:  So it sounds like your saying it’s responsibility.  Can you boil it down to responsibility?

Answer:  Yes.  Responsibility is what progressivism is about. Responsibility and respect. Responsibility is the key to having a successful relationship with people who are important to you in your life, and is the key to a relationship with everyone.  And your larger community, your small community, your family.  It’s natural.  It makes sense.  You want people around you to be happy, and that helps you too.  It’s natural, so Responsibility and respect are definitely part of who I am and an important part of looking at things. 

And I think it’s important to look forward and see something to strive to, to become better people, to make a better community.  And I think that’s important for us to look at in our own lives, and important for us to look at as we as a people, as a community, as a political entity, as people who are just trying to live and run a community and a government. 

Republicans will define Democrat, they’ll define liberals, and the left, and progressives, and lump them all into this big bag of like “tax and spend” and “reckless”, and “getting rid of important conservative values”, “the things that make our country great”, “anti-patriotic.”

And I don’t think that’s true in any of those categories.  I think it’s very patriotic to be progressive, to explore ideas of building a community, of looking at what’s best for a community, of looking toward a brighter future, which I think is the essence of what it means to be progressive, to be responsible, to be respectful in those ways. 

I find it sad that that sort of stigma sticks so strongly.  I think it’s good that progressives are now speaking out, embracing a lot of ideas , and giving their values support and not being held back by what the Right, the Republican machine has labeled them.  And I think when people really start to see that, a lot more people will find that they define themselves in that way too. 

But progressive do embrace ideas of fiscal responsibility and real community building things, and strong family, but different types of family too, and being welcoming, and environment.  I think more people would find that to be a good message, and good values on its own.

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Progressives tend to moralize...

Conservatives tend to sermonize.  Progressives are physical cowards.  Conservatives are moral and mental cowards.

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1094 comments) on Monday, April 7, 2008 at 12:37:36 PM
 


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do you have a good word for anyone?

do you have a good word for anyone?
 Libertarians, liberals?
 
 "Progressives tend to moralize..." I think  you're wrong about,   I would say conservatives do that for sure.  talking about values is not moralizing.  talking about the nature and experience of responsibility is not moralizing.   saying you have to act one way or the other in a self-righteous way is moralizing. 

"Progressives are physical cowards. "
 I'd say Progressives have a value of care and empathy. This is perhaps translated into "physical cowards" by those with the simplistic values of hierarchy and dominance.   The thing they don't understand it that care and empathy take much more strength than attempts at dominance.  The people taking care of the elderly, the children, the sick, nurturing the peaceful development of society have the real internal strength.

Your just talking about  the false dominance and strenght of segregation versus the progressive strength of justice and the civil rights movement. The false strength of the assassin compared to true strength of someone like Martin Luther King.

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