Okay, wait a moment: the "nuke incident" occurred on Aug 29th... right?

Two of the "Minot airmen" died more than a month PRIOR to that date. What's the connection?

Here's what I read: ""Meanwhile, there are those six deaths. On July 20, 1st Lt. Weston Kissel, a 28-year-old B-52 pilot from Minot, died in a motorcycle accident while on home leave in Tennessee.

Another Minot B-52 pilot, 20-year-old Adam Barrs, died on July 5 in Minot when a car he was riding in, driven by another Minot airman, Stephen Garrett, went off the road, hit a tree, and caught fire. Airman Garrett was brought to the hospital in critical condition and has since been charged with negligent homicide.""

 

Can anyone explain the "connection"?

Perhaps a hit squad with a late model Time Machine? Because in my part of the country, July comes before August. Maybe they do it different in the Dakotas?

 

 

by mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 312 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 7:04:14 PM

That time machine comment was cute. You people are so mired in your own stupidity and false sense of security that you insist on mocking any who would question the actions of a very real and very sinister rogue element that operates in the background. Don't bother sliming Mr. Lindorff until you get off of your lazy ass and go do some research on the shadow government and the types of covert operatives who thrive there. This is a serious issue - nukes don't accidentally get loaded onto planes and those who are involved are guilty of treason.

And save your tin foil hat pejoratives for fools like yourself that live in fantasyland.

EE 

 

by Ed Encho (12 articles, 20 quicklinks, 65 diaries, 438 comments [14 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 8:24:35 AM

A great article, but it doesn't state that the Air Force itself blew the whistle on these so-called "loose nukes." The deaths are tragic, but appears to be the price paid for knowing too much, but that's my opinion, and like everyone else, I have nothing to substantiate the deaths were related. This was my article that demonstrated the Air Force was the one that blew the whistle:

Who Is Wrong, CNN or Wayne Madsen at Global Research? UPDATED

http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=296

 

William Cormier

by William Cormier (152 articles, 11 quicklinks, 21 diaries, 419 comments [9 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 8:21:06 AM

 

Let's say you have a plan to do something illegal, and it has to be an inside job. You have the cooperation of some of the people on the inside, but thereare some who won't cooperate. Wouldn't you get rid of those who stood in your way before you went operational?

As for "the Air Force" blowing the whistle, the Air Force is not one person or group of people. If some people in the Air Force robbed a bank, and some other people in the Air Force turned them in to the authorities, would you say that "the Air Force" robbed the bank or "the Air Force" turned the robbers in?

The fact is that we lack the safety and security standards that we would demand of any other nuclear power, and that unless the right questions are asked and answered, it isn't an "investigation" it is just a whitewash and coverup.

Some of the main reasons that many people still have questions about 9/11 is that no proper investigation was every done, the important questions were neither asked nor answered, and this country not only has a history of "false flag" operations, staging an attack and blaming it on an enemy to justify "retaliation," but the Northwoods Plan, which had been signed off on by the Joint Chiefs of Staff many years earlier, envisioned a scenario uncannily similar to 9/11 as a way to justify an attack on Cuba.

When you don't do a proper investigation, it isn't only conspiracy theorists who will have questions -- anyone who wants the truth will have questions. There have been incidents where nuclear weapons were accidentally dropped from airplanes. If the guys who failed to notice that they were carrying nuclear weapons, had also failed to notice that they'd accidentally dropped one on your city, I think your survivors might have questions also.

If the Air Force was negligent or incompetent, it shouldn't have access to nuclear weapons. And if it was attempting to carry out a secret plan to nuke Iran and blame it on the Israelis or somebody else, they really shouldn't have access to nuclear weapons.

Either way, we're talking about weapons more powerful than those used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and questions must be asked and answered. National security isn't just rounding up undocumented workers to scapegoat them for globalization and job outsourcing, national security also means ensuring that weapons of mass destruction are safeguarded.

 

 

by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:57:08 AM

<>Perhaps in some future, when all the lies and criminalities of the Bush admin., and especially of Cheney's design, have come open, then there will be the real story revealed.....   (There are plenty of folks who WANT to tell it as they know it, and surely a good number of them will outlive Cheney, in spite of Cheney's penchant for obliterating witnesses......)

The "pre-incident" deaths CAN still, all too possibly, be connected.  An event like this is not set up instantaneously.  Such a thing requires "recruitment" of a number of individuals to get through all the parts and stages required to move those nukes, in the first place, much less to load them, and ready to fire, balance the load, etc........

The feigning "candor" of the Air Force official giving the press conference is just that---FEIGNING-- in other words, FAKE.  There is no possibility that these nuclear missles were just left lying about like that, and ALSO, no possiblility they could have been loaded onto the wings "accidentally".  Besides all the official folderol involved in each step of handling them, these things are much heavier than "conventional" missles and it would therefore have made it impossible to fly if the load under the other wing was not set to counter the otherwise lopsided weight. 

It was an oversight, probably from not having figured out yet WHAT in the heck could be said to make this "incident" wash and fade away, when the information was first "accidentally" aired, suddenly out loose into public notice-- that 6 nukes were reported as leaving Minot, while it was the airman BLURTING OUT the fact that only 5 nuclear missles were under that wing, sitting there untouched for 10 hours after landing at Barksdale.  The plane stopped off SOMEwhere in between and unloaded one of those nukes!  There was such a gap of silence about that discrepency in the numbers that no explanation could possibly wash that away, either.

Cheney is the only one who could have pulled the "command override", to have, in other words, been able to bypass the normally SET chain of command protocol required for anyone even to TOUCH one of those missiles, much less to have them brought out from their underground storage.

Some of those officers definitely deserved to have been punished, for going along with this scheme rather than refusing.  Those who refused though are more probably those "disciplined".  They are definitely real "HEROS" and quite deserving of our greatest possible thankfulness, as well as of promotion rather than demotion and declassification.  There are a number of stalwart individuals in the military who really ARE there in SERVICE to the country and will not go along with the plans to attack Iran for they KNOW too much of what it would actually be and actually mean to do so, and have a really good idea as to the monumental ramifications it would set in motion, and also that it is totally unwarranted, and therefore ILLEGAL, to be committing such an act of war upon Iran in the first place. 

And, another thing, that site in Syria that Israel bombed was more likely a huge desalinization plant and nothing even related to anything at all nuclear.  Such a plant would require a huge vat, just like the one pictured there, and would also require the pumping facilities it was described to have had.  Since this is a great need of the area, and Syria had previously spoken of such plans to cover the present needs, and increasing near future needs because of the inherent fresh water scarcity problems throughout the Middle East, it is much more plausible that THIS is what Israel bombed.  This is an even greater "value" contained within the boundaries of Iraq than the oil beneath, the confluence of rivers..............THE WATER!  One of the major schemes of the cabal is to grab up and hold power over as much of the fresh water supply as they can get their grubby hands on!  They want a monopoly on the world's water supply!  They plan to profit greatly from this scheme as water becomes more and more scarce........  Now, if another player, like Syria for instance, was equipped to be supplying large quantities of water, water for life too, not water for profit and "power-over", wouldn't that be an awful monkeywrench in the water plans of the cabal?????

<>I have put the following related links out a couple other times, please go READ what is there!


http://www.willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Command_Override.html

http://www.willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Faulty_Chips.html

http://www.willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Nuclear_B-52_Oct_18_UPDATE.html

http://www.willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/B-52_Crews_Punished.html

<> Well---just as I was about to paste this in, my computer crashed (again!) and meantime the above comment came in with  some of the same  line of thought........ :-)

(-:G

http://www.zianet.com/XLexcel/OHBOY.html 

by G Achin (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 110 comments [9 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 12:07:46 PM

Same site-------

click here

by G Achin (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 110 comments [9 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 1:03:17 PM

... that does not in any way detract from the fact that there are disturbing questions on this incident that need to be answered. I can post links to the debunking if anyone is interested.

by Steven Leser (255 articles, 58 quicklinks, 38 diaries, 2147 comments [63 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 1:43:31 PM

"....there are disturbing questions on this incident that need to be answered."

When nuclear weapons of mass destruction much more powerful than those used on Hiroshim and Nagasaki can be accidentally or mistakenly flown over the continental USA, questions do need to be answered.

But Congress is unlikely to ask those questions. If they did, the White House would prevent key personnel from responding to Congressional subpoenas. And if there was an investigation and the people with the answers did appear, they'd be asked only whether or not they had oatmeal for breakfast that day, if they had filed their tax returns, and what's their favorite TV show, not anything relevant to the investigation. That's how it was done after the JFK assassination, that's how it was done after 9/11, and if there is any "investigation" at all this time, that's also how it will be done.

This is our government at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

No questions were ever asked or answered, and they never will be as long as the assassins themselves continue to run this government.

 

by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 8:48:33 AM