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Thank You For The Sept 11 Attacks

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 Well, shame on you. You don't believe it? Well then, double shame on you. Do you truly believe that an administration would deliberately run itself into the ground, take on the heat and sheer hatred of the entire world by mistake? Of course not, they had ulterior motives and they sure weren't to run this nation in a fruitful and productive way to the benefit of its' people. Who do you suppose that they were running it for then?

Thank You For 9-11! Thank you?

What an odd thing to say.
Why on earth would anyone be thankful for that horrendous event? Well, until 9-11 our country was on a slow downward spiral. So slow it was that most weren't paying much attention. Despite statistics the American worker was in dire straits. We were living on 1980's wages and the middle class was shrinking while the top 20% were enjoying a lucrative run thanks to the top 2%, the Elite. No one paid much attention as our jobs were being shipped overseas, Wal-Marts had begun opening Super Wal-Marts forcing more and more local business men to close their doors as they were establishing a new lower wage concept and organized thought control exercises on their employees  nationwide. Our standards of living and the quality of our products were in a downward spiral. If you listened, you could almost hear the flush. The problem was that no one was listening.
The attacks on 9-11 changed all of that.
Whoever had the idea to blow down those buildings opened our eyes for the first time in almost fifty years to the fact that there are powers beyond our government who are the true rulers of our world and gave to us the first real opportunity to discover and eliminate the entity which has come to be known as "the Elite" or as I call them, the "Establishment". They allowed us to see, by their blunders and arrogance, that we've come full circle from the sixties and it's time to finish what we've started. A Revolution. We learned in the sixties that violence was not the answer to the problem, that it only redirected the blame. We hadn't been prepared for such an event. I sort of sprang on us out of anger and desperation over Viet Nam and the draft, fueled by weed, acid and contempt. We were young, almost child like, you might say. When we had a string of assassinations perpetrated by these same people who we're fighting now we were so naive, no one could, or would, wrap their head around our own government having our beloved president killed.
Well, that was then and now we've matured and most of us have no problem with believing anything about our leaders. So, we can thank them. Thanks for toughening up our skin, exposing us to the real world, the one which is made up of men and women who profess themselves leaders, then take massive bribes, conduct their sexual affairs in the Lincoln bedroom, meet each other from under the stall in the men's room and have vast collections of Kiddy Porn at their disposal. Not to mention the most important people of all, that 2 % who are determined to reduce the population with wars, keep us in debt by not earning enough to keep up with inflation, who are taking away our freedoms by instituting laws like the Patriot Act, are trying to turn us into another China and have assassinated our leaders and now, attacked our cities and our people.
Yes, the Towers will not be the only things to fall. This time they went a little bit too far. They murdered, in absolute cold blood, in front of the entire world, almost three thousand men and women. They gave us footage, from several different angles, providing proof of explosions, types of flame indicative of temperatures and materials burning, angles of collapse, everything needed, in a real court of law, in front of real competent witnesses to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that planes did not topple those structures. Once it's been established that there were inside connections in the attacks it is obvious who the perpetrators are. It's just a matter of getting to the top and when they're facing the firing squad people like Giuliani will be climbing over bodies to tell his story. Of course we'll find the usual scapegoats, tossed to the lions but this will be just a snack. There's no way that this ends with Bush and Cheney. The nature of these crimes will take us to the organization who was pulling strings on WWll to the Kennedy assassinations and everything in between. Of course, the organization I'm talking about is the Establishment. These "Elite" are not the Seven Dwarfs, lurking in the mystical woods. They are as real as it gets, unfortunately. They are undoing the very fabric of our Country as they have been since the began the Federal Reserve in 1913 and for once we have them dead to rights and as all powerful as they are they will be up against a document and a court system which,  used properly and righteously is the most powerful instrument in the world. For once, given this chance, we must use it.
This is not a choice. This is why the Constitution was written.
Our forefathers knew from experience that tyrants such as these would eventually emerge and knowing the full nature of the human being realized that it would not be recognized nor would there be anyone who would know how to fight them back. They gave us the Constitution with step by step instructions on how to use it. 
Without it we would now be doomed. Because of it we will be a bigger, better, stronger Nation than ever before. Behind us will be the follies of their wars, the scars of their assassinations, the stench of their racism. They are not an intangible group, they can be touched. They are not infallible, they have been quite wrong and they are, most of all, not immortal. They most certainly will die. 
Now it's up to us, the American people, to sweep them up and throw them away in any way possible.
We've been shown much about the workings of these people in the past eight years. I don't think I've ever seen them play so close to the surface as they have recently. Carl Rove is a master player, the banker if you will, in their game of Monopoly. It's not been a pretty game. As I've said many times before, "sit six people down to play Monopoly and there will be only one winner at the end. Everyone else goes broke".  This is what they want for us and the game is coming to an end. Who comes out on op is up to us.
There will be change in America. Do I believe this because Barack Obama has won the election? No, of course not. Who we vote for has very little to do with change. As a matter of fact, since we turned our banking system over to them one hundred years ago our vote has been a joke. If we vote for someone that they disapprove of the just kill them.  As far as our politicians in DC go we are on our own. They aren't capable of changing anything but we need their help as they will need ours.  Only we can enforce change by working together. First though, we must differentiate between "we" and "them". "We" are definitely the majority of Americans who are losing everything. We're losing jobs, careers, money, homes, hope and most of all, our freedom.
I believe that if we polled eight years ago our numbers were less than half of who we are now so thanks again to them for strengthening our numbers. 
Those of us who were aware of the reality back then are now weary. We knew what was happening before and as it was happening. On 9-11, most Americans were shocked with disbelief while some of us were waiting for the next blow, the setting of the hook. Others were ready to bomb anyone from Russia to Iran. The machine was now in play. The machine is the tool or compilation of tools used by "them". 
In case there's any question as to who they are here's a simplistic synopsis. They are a powerful group of people who make up about 2% of the population with a wealth so far beyond description that money doesn't really matter to them in the scheme of things, (money only matters to us). These are the elite,  so far above everyone else that they don't even realize that we exist or the problems which they create for us as they play their game of monopoly. For them it's almost sport, for the rest of us it's life and death. They've been playing for thousands of years but the years which matter most to us now began in the early twentieth century when Amschel Rothschild brought us the Federal Reserve Banking system.. http://judicial-inc.biz/Fed_res_main.htm
As Alan Greenspan said, "He who controls the money, controls everything". I have no doubt that he understood the vastness of that truth whereas for most it was a quaint little quip, given no more thought to than the dessert menu.
The bottom line is, though, that the Federal Reserve instantly became the ruler of everything money and has been behind the decision making policy of every ruler, republican or democrat, since its' inception. The purpose of the Federal Reserve, however, does not serve our needs, silly us. It's the personal bank account of the Establishment. It controls everything from interest rates to the IRS. Just look around at the havoc they can reek. Inflation's up, it's down, job's are up, they're down,, hell, gas is up to over four dollars a gallon, in a month they're down to under two and now they're heading back up again. It's the boldest shell game in town and anyone who thinks that they can't ever lose is a fool.
How many of you, honestly,  voted for George W. in 2000?  How'd you feel in 2004? How about now? Can you now see, in retrospect, the duplicity which took place to put "W" in the presidency? Did you ever ask yourself "why"? The Establishment needed someone in office who would dance to their tune no matter how bad it made him look or how terrible the outcome, just so long as the outcome suited them. Outcomes such as wars which made no sense and laws which could serve no one. Bush is convinced that his actions will serve him well in history as he has served his class well. That is their world, their history that they're protecting, not ours. Do you now realize the duplicity which brought us "the Patriot Act"? http://epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html  The government say's that the act is there strictly to protect us. Most say it was pushed through too quickly and without oversight and could be used in any number of ways to apprehend, imprison, detain and interrogate any citizen it sees fit in the event of an internal uprising. This I believe. No one is looking out for our best interest.
This is why I thank the people who instigated and allowed the 9-11 attacks. Ten years ago while this rape of our middle class, our nation, our rights was all going on we were asleep at the wheel. We were naive, uneducated, afraid, incredulous. If you spoke of these things, these theories, you may have well lined your hat with aluminum foil. Nobody believes the truth in this country unless it headlines in the Chicago Tribune, the New York Times, MSNBC or the almighty FOX. If it ain't there it ain't truth.
Because no power is ever enough for these greedy pigs and they believe themselves gods they perpetrated a deed so ugly, so horrific that they never believed that their good names would ever be questioned. They were very wrong. I, along with the majority of Americans believe indubitably that there was inside involvement. The Establishment bit off two skyscrapers and a piece of the Pentagon and as most of you have demonstrated, we want the truth. 
It's taking a little while but it's coming because every person who loses a job or a house, every soldier who comes home from the Middle East to get the real story, every investor who loses their ass in the stock market, their 401K , their life savings, their family in the process, is becoming another soldier in the army seeking the truth. This is the real truth, nothing else matters because all roads lead to the truth on this highway.This is the 9-11 Truth. We want to know what happened, why it happened, how it happened and who were the people who allowed it to happen. I believe, along with hundreds of thousands of others, that we can and will get to the absolute truth. It seems almost an impossible task but so did defeating the Mafia. Fifty years ago they couldn't be touched.They were in collusion with high ranking law officials as far up as the CIA and the FBI. Then the RICO Act was passed and it changed everything. People who previously couldn't be touched were now taken down for tax evasion, of all things. Once people saw that even crime bosses went away they started speaking out. They'd rather save their own asses and live then try their luck on the streets. When Joe Valachi brought down the Genovese family he also made the "Cosa Nostra" a household name. Since then the "Mafia all but ceased to exist. As they do they are small factions or families with no where near the power that they wielded in the forties to the sixties when they played a vital role in politics even to the point that they played a roll in government assassinations. I bring this up in order to demonstrate how a particular party who is holding powers so vast that they appear untouchable can be torn asunder and cast aside in a matter of decades. I believe that this is the decade that the Establishment will fall.
This will bring you to a site with four separate petitions you can sign, all important to the movement.  http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/61055 
Here you can sign a very important petition and get much information and links which will enlighten you.   http://www.ae911truth.org/   
Don't give up, don't be distracted, there are several members where who have focused heavily on 9-11 such as Mr M. who has dedicated himself almost entirely to the 9-11 Truth. Pay attention to them when they have something to say. And remember, 9-11 is what it's all about. This is the key to bringing down the Establishment, their Achilles Heel. This is where they screwed up. It was inevitable. There were too many people involved with big mouths. Just look at Giuliani. He was running his mouth before the second plane hit he was so anxious to be "somebody". This just proves that everyone is good for something. Even Rudy!
Remember, it's not just 9-11 Truth. It's" 9-11 Truth From The Top"!
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FBI WATCH MAKING CRUELTY VISIBLE

A SPECIES THAT HIRES BODYGUARDS TO PROTECT THEM LOOSES THE ABILITY TO PORTECT ITSELF AND IS DOOMED TO EXTINCTION

 

If you look carefully enough you will see some of my footage in the documentary film 911 press for truth .

see www.911pressfortruth.com

From 1989 through 2002 we organized a conference in New England looking at crimes committed by FBI  agents.

It doesn't take a rocket scientest to see FBI  agents were principal architects in the creation of the 1st World Trade Center bombing, Oklahoma City bombing and 911.

google

anitcev floyd salem

 

google

nichols potts trentadue berger

What is more difficult to see is what happens to a species when they hire bodyguards to protect them.

The species looses the ability to protect itself.

8 years after 911 no one from the FBI ,CIA, Military , US Government has been arrested. Same with the Kennedy assassination, Martin Luther King assassination, 1st World Trade Center bombing, Oklahoma City bombing. 

Need I say more?

 

To view over 1500 pages of crimes committed by FBI  agents see

click here to do something about these problems?

Start policing your own communities using the restorative justice model. 

by mssarnhatt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 42 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:04:16 AM

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FBI WATCH MAKING CRUELTY VISIBLE

A SPECIES THAT HIRES BODYGUARDS TO PROTECT THEM LOOSES THE ABILITY TO PORTECT ITSELF AND IS DOOMED TO EXTINCTION

 

If you look carefully enough you will see some of my footage in the documentary film 911 press for truth .

see www.911pressfortruth.com

From 1989 through 2002 we organized a conference in New England looking at crimes committed by FBI  agents.

It doesn't take a rocket scientest to see FBI  agents were principal architects in the creation of the 1st World Trade Center bombing, Oklahoma City bombing and 911.

google

anitcev floyd salem

 

google

nichols potts trentadue berger

What is more difficult to see is what happens to a species when they hire bodyguards to protect them.

The species looses the ability to protect itself.

8 years after 911 no one from the FBI ,CIA, Military , US Government has been arrested. Same with the Kennedy assassination, Martin Luther King assassination, 1st World Trade Center bombing, Oklahoma City bombing. 

Need I say more?

 

To view over 1500 pages of crimes committed by FBI  agents see

click here to do something about these problems?

Start policing your own communities using the restorative justice model. 

by mssarnhatt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 42 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:07:41 AM

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The Awakening

Persevere, compadre, it's beginning to work.  The next phase begins after the inaugural euphoria is transmuted into the awareness of what the promised "change" actually means, what it does to people.

Please be patient enough to read this ENTIRE speech by Winston Churchill:  "Never give up!  Never give up!  Never give up!"

That's it, the WHOLE bloody speech. 

And know that we -- our numbers meager but growing -- depend upon you as you may depend upon us.

 

by Rafe Pilgrim (63 articles, 0 quicklinks, 19 diaries, 84 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:11:15 AM

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Reply: I'm counting on it!

You're right in your thinking Rafe.

I get a sense of more and more people who have had all they can take. I've been in this state of mind for over 40 years and for that time I've been a joke. Now, all those who were laughing, (who once had jobs) aren't. The problem now, I think, is that so many are turning toward violent solutions which I now don't believe will solve anything. We can't physically harm the people who count and we'll just get a lot of our people hurt.

I don't have a lot of answers but it would seem that if you want to hurt people who love power more than anything and money is their power then hit them in the bank account. I personally have stopped buying anything Chinese, for starters. They don't make anything which we need, just a bunch of junk we want.  I also don't frequent Wal Mart or any of the large conglomerates without checking out the company as to how they pay and treat employees. I try to use small local business whenever I can.

I don't know how much this hurts but if it spreads I imagine it would do some damage.

Hopefully, someone who's smarter than I will stand up but we're not going anywhere without some sort of fight and a great deal of sacrifice.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:17:03 PM

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Crooks, suckers, and lazy cowards.

Crooks, suckers, and lazy cowards.  That's all this species ever was.

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1760 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:50:54 AM

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Justice and History

 I was asked by some of my friends why do I want to know what,s going on if I can not prove it or change it. I have no answer exept that I want the truth from the people who say we cannot handel the truth. I knew on 9/11 that it was not some identifiable terroist who flew into the Towers. I saw the hands of the Cheneys and the Roves all over it.They got their Pearl Harbor event.We must never forget and we need to prosecute them  if we can make our elected officials do their job  This is not about who to blame it is about Justice. History demands it!

by cluelessfl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 188 comments) on Sunday, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:37:11 PM

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Three conflicting lessons from 9/11

Americans seem to have drawn three separate and conflicting lessons from 9/11, depending on their ideological views.

1) 9/11 convinced the Republicans that we were involved in a war on terror that requires we cease being a republic.  This led to the botched fascist takeover known as the Bush II Administration. (If you don't know Bush II was a bothced fascist takeover, I refer you to Naomi Wolfe's The End of America.)

2) 9/11 convinced conspiracy theorists (and many other independents, such as libertarians) that the ruling elite is making its move and our freedom is at risk.  This is clearly the consensus of most commenters here.  My problem with these folks is that no two of them agree with one another about the nature of the conspiracy or the elite.

3) 9/11 convinced liberals (and other normal people) that our foreign policy blunders have made us bitter enemies, and that Republicans are incompetent.  I'm one of this third type, because it best explains the facts, while the first two views force one to ignore or explain away Bill Clinton's excellent record against terrorism.

If both parties were being run by an elite, their record against terorrism would be roughly the same.  But they're not. When Republicans couldn't prevent executive action, President Clinton:

-- Developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
--Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
-- Tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
-- Brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
-- Did not blame Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after they had left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
-- Named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
-- Tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
-- Detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries
-- Created a national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
-- Robert Oakley, Reagan Counterterrorism Czar says of Clinton's efforts "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama"
-- Paul Bremer, Bush's Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley saying he believed the Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden. "
-- Barton Gellman of the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort."
http://www.mikehersh.com/

Most proponents of the first two viewpoints simply ignore this stuff, for the obvious reason that Clinton's reocrd against terrorism does not fit into their paradigms. So they ignore the inconvenient facts--a strong indicator of delusional thinking.

Please tell me if you think this clip is too weird:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Paq_fIxPCM

by Perry Logan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 557 comments [74 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 5:12:30 AM

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I could be wrong.....

 ....but I don't think so.

 "My problem with these folks is that no two of them agree with one another about the nature of the conspiracy or the elite."

Perry, I don't understand what you're basing that statement on. I've never encountered anyone who was deluded about the nature... ot the elite.

It's a bit obvious who is the "elite" or as I prefer, even though it sounds a bit "B Movie", the Establishment.

As far as your concept, you're basing your whole theory on the fact that Bill Clinton was a great president, something I would never dispute.

One thing I certainly won't dispute, that clip was creepy,,, and moronic.

Thanks for your thoughts.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:18:05 PM

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In short...

Whether you refer to them as the Moriah, the Illuminati, the Club of Rome, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300, the moneychangers/international bankers or the Shadow Government (among others) the self-appointed, elitist overlords that manipulate our world and maneuver it's populations through the manufacture of events have not endorsed an all-encompassing moniker to describe themselves - so how could any of the variety of groups that are paying attention to their intrigues and the disasterous results formulate a meaningful consensus in giving them a name?

But names aside, the octapus is immense. It's tentacles pervade, pervert and infect the true halls of power, the control of money and mechanisms that design what we are allowed to know. To paraphrase an exerpt from John F Kennedy's warning to us all - and a demonstration of the mindset that likely led to his murder:

"... for we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence - on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match."  ~ John F Kennedy, 1961

And with countless clever disguises, this insidious, sophisticated leviathon hides in plain sight - woven into our institutuions, our political apparatus and our lives.

And yes, the video is too weird. Two minutes was my limit.

by Michael McCoy (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 487 comments [26 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:30:08 PM

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Reply: Thank you,

Michael,

You are a highly enlightened individual.

Even when our leaders tell us the truth they know to be true and that leader is himself silenced for the world to see, they won't believe.

It's peoples own minds which prevent them from accepting the truth when the truth is too much to accept or, as my Dad used to say "They wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit them on the ass".

And don't waste your time with that video.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:44:24 PM

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Is Anyone Listening?

As a Brit living in Italy, I've been making myself unpopular telling my US friends about 911 truth and am astonished at the complete refusal to accept anything other than the 'official' conspiracy theory. I spoke to a NY friend who'd seen the towers fall from his apartment and when I mentioned that they were demolished his reply was 'You're kidding!'. I thought he was joking. Here is an educated man, a university teacher and democrat who actually experienced 911, and who hasn't even bothered to look at the evidence freely available on the internet. I am reminded of the supine German population during the 30's who were encouraged to scapegoat the jews in very much the same way the US now treats the arabs. (The Reichstag fire was an inside job!)

But your article has given me new hope that economic collapse will force America to confront the decaying corpse of the 911 elephant in their living room, although I'm fearful that the anger generated could spark civil war- the armaments you guys have accumulated is terrifying...

Anyway, an excellent article- thank you and good luck! 

 

by dan pearce (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:51:13 AM

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Reply: I believe that you're correct....

Thanks Dan.
Unfortunately, I feel if we don't arm ourselves we will be in the same straits as the Jews were. My feelings on the whole matter is that I'm already putting myself in the pot trying to make others aware of what's coming, if they don't want to take advantage of the advice they'll be on their own when it hits the fan. In the meantime, if anyone oversteps with myself or my family they'll have no one to blame but themselves for the outcome. My hopes would be that civil, local law enforcement will be citizens first in the event of upheaval but I can't take those chances. My weapons may not go far against a full auto but they're better than waving my...... well, finger.
I don't understand why Americans react this way in the face of absolute truth. They were the same with the assassinations of the Kennedy's and Martin Luther King and the Viet Nam war. It seems it   takes years for the truth to gradually creep in and then people act as though they just discovered some hidden fact 40 years later. I'm afraid that we don't have forty years.
I'm afraid also that because of our arrogance and ignorance we have lost the sympathy and respect of the people of the world. Please, we are not all like george bush.
Thanks again Dan and please, keep a thought for us.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:03:10 AM

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