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Swine Flu-- Normal or Malignant?

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As the threat of swine flu has raised cautionary responses, from handing out face masks to travel warnings from the US government, and as other nations warn against travel to Mexico AND the US, people are asking what this sudden development means. 

Is it a normal outbreak of a disease as the world has seen since time immemorial?

The question my title asks is not about cancer. It is about intention. Some suggest that this flu is no natural phenomenon, that it was caused by man, either unintentionally, or...

Was it caused or exacerbated by conditions created by factory farms?

Has globalization increased the risks of disease threats like this?

Is the outbreak a   Beta Test for bioterrorism? Conspiracy theory website Prison Planet suggests that's the case. 

Is the media fanning a firestorm of panic and fear? It looks like across the spectrum, from mainstream media to left, it's one of the top stories, and has pushed discussion of torture hearings and prosecutions from the front pages of most media. 

Dailykos' top recommended story is: Republicans Stripped Pandemic Flu Preparedness From Stimulus

The NY Times has an article, Flu Outbreak Raises a Set of Questions, which  notes that the US has only reported 20 mild cases, and the article observes, 

 ut in Mexico, where the outbreak began, swine flu is believed to have killed at least 81 people and to have given about 1,300 serious breathing problems. The central question every flu expert in the world would like answered, Dr. Martin Cetron, director of global migration and quarantine for the Centers for Disease Control, said in an interview, is how many mild cases Mexico has had.

“We may just be looking at the tip of the iceberg, which would give you a skewed initial estimate of the case fatality rate,” he said, meaning that there may have been tens of thousands of mild infections, which would then make the number of deaths seemingly low. In that case, as the flu spreads, it would not be surprising if the number of people who become seriously ill remained relatively small.

Right now, the answer is unknowable. Only two laboratories the world, the C.D.C. in Atlanta and the Canadian national laboratory in Winnipeg, have developed the reagents needed to do a positive test for the new flu strain, so samples from any other country must be sent to them for confirmation.

Even in 1918, experts point out, the pandemic Spanish flu infected at least 500 million of the world’s 1.5 billion people, killing 50 million. Many of those lives would have been saved if anti-flu drugs, antibiotics and mechanical ventilators had existed.

As an editor, part of my job is to balance the available information AND the speculation to decide how to cover this story. My senior editorial team has done the yeoman's share of the work here, helping to evaluate stories and articles coming in reporting facts, speculations and fantasies about swine flu. Here's the link to the articles, diaries, comments on OpEdNews.com so far.

The results are not in. This could be a frightening situation with dire possibilities and the theories are flying. The comments section below is a great place to add your links, theories and facts to flesh out the full picture. OpEdNews.com is a bottom up media site where the members play an essential role in covering the full story. Let's really make it happen here.

 

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I have read that Tamiflu is the only remedy that s... by jeannette russell on Monday, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:48:33 AM
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As Rob said the jury is still out on this and we a... by E. Nelson on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:21:14 AM
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please send photos..... by jersey girl on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:10:51 AM
I want to se this!... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:28:47 AM
At this point, it sounds like a lot of media hype.... by Oh on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:53:26 AM
Be  it engineered or not, it is still just in... by pft on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:41:18 AM
my submissions to now won't post. Visit Mike, my ... by Otay on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:35:15 AM
Objectives: To describe patients infected with os... by Patrick Lafferty on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:25:45 PM
H1N1 was already pretty much resistant. The new s... by pft on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:12:04 AM
It's fascinating to watch a conspiracy theory ... by Perry Logan on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:15:11 AM
Speak to the baxter and bayer stories... dispute t... by jersey girl on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:49:24 AM
Why can't the Baxter and/or Bayer incident just be... by E. Nelson on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:05:40 PM
Because they WEREN'T accidents. Did your lab m... by jersey girl on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:58:05 PM
You need to read up on how a vaccine is produced. ... by E. Nelson on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:23:07 PM
Do you read the links posted or just make condesce... by jersey girl on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:07:05 AM
First off I am unclear what the Bayer thing has to... by E. Nelson on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:44:16 PM
Yikes! You've really lost me NOW, Perry! Tom ... by Bia Winter on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:40:12 AM
You are so worth ignoring that all I had to read w... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:07:56 AM
towns are in truth really good places to release, ... by amicus curiae on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:49:24 AM
I live about 80 miles from the MX border on a road... by Kathy Stuart on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:41:15 AM
In early spring / late winter you can't throw a st... by E. Nelson on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:57:29 PM
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/emergency/swinefl... by Steven Leser on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:43:36 PM
That was a "designed" flu vaccine that was specifi... by Tom Murphy on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:04:25 PM
that the company that made Tamiflu under Rumsfelds... by Ms Nan on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:55:56 PM
There are many different strains of the AIDS virus... by Steven Leser on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:37:30 PM
Not again.......Wow! I can't believe what you ... by Sharlene Z. on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:29:30 PM
A few moments ago, I got off the phone with Shirle... by Steven Leser on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:14:38 PM
This new vaccine will not resemble the 1976 vaccin... by jersey girl on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:35:35 AM
Likely a vaccine has been given to the committee a... by Patrick Lafferty on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:55:00 PM
we don't know a thing. Frightened and disturbe... by Jim Pivonka on Tuesday, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:52:07 PM
I am glad you traced that down! Good job.... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:15:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBeKB7aKzOsThis unp... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:49:01 AM
as I also noted in a previous post...you need go n... by jersey girl on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:32:01 AM
Hey Jersey girl! I just watched V again tonite to... by Cinderfella on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:34:48 AM
jersey girl's and yours posts were at 3:32 and 4:3... by Tom Murphy on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:08:24 AM
I guess it's hard not to have a bit in these t... by NettieMae on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:09:18 PM
My "tonight" is now.. When is your "tonight".. lol... by jersey girl on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:11:58 PM
A present moment when the spin of the Earth h... by William Whitten on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:41:43 PM
In the words of Tom Cruise's character from "Cockt... by Tom Murphy on Friday, May 1, 2009 at 9:33:01 AM
...a good sport Tom, thanks for the champagne wish... by William Whitten on Friday, May 1, 2009 at 6:54:10 PM
every illness from cancer to chicken pox to the co... by Steven Leser on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:17:33 PM
"every illness from cancer to chicken pox to ... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:56:32 PM
Did you watch the Dr Leonard Horowitz video?? I th... by jersey girl on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:01:07 PM
A deadly killer. It has already killed Torture Mem... by abe ramsay on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:12:59 AM
As such prone to the same biases, prejudices, leap... by Paula Sayles on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:51:38 PM
I work in the legal dept of an orthopedic surgical... by jersey girl on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:27:43 PM
Almost an oxymoron. I've known md's who've almost ... by Cinderfella on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:23:29 PM
Jeeeze...don't ever say that in front of one! they... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:07:52 PM
His doctor refused to acknowledge it. Only one doc... by Patrick Lafferty on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:45:51 PM
Phase 4 to 5  and soon to phase 6 coming.&nbs... by Patrick Lafferty on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:52:38 PM
"Oh children, it's just a shot away it's just a sh... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:12:12 PM
Including the 1976 episode, this author has an opi... by shirley reese on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:56:12 PM
During the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SP... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:48:14 PM
1 more level to martial law...forced innoculations... by jersey girl on Wednesday, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:49:06 PM
I agree Jersey. Something is afoot. What I find... by William Whitten on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:02:39 AM
think the big party comes in a year or year and a ... by Patrick Lafferty on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:16:00 AM
I refuse to take their poison.. there is no such t... by jersey girl on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:58:16 AM
"...[I] think the big party comes in a year o... by Tom Murphy on Friday, May 1, 2009 at 11:40:57 AM
"Don't eat the crumbs!"--Murphy Mixed with the ... by William Whitten on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at 10:20:09 AM
Accident With Swine Flu Virus On Swiss Train4-29-9... by William Whitten on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:31:32 AM
And thus we witness the creation of a "bright shin... by Tom Murphy on Friday, May 1, 2009 at 9:05:00 AM
Mr. Obama urged parents and businesses to think...... by William Whitten on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:29:22 PM
ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE.......HOT OFF THE PRESS.......... by Sharlene Z. on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:11:12 PM
...Lol Very Good Work Ms. Z Thank you from a... by William Whitten on Thursday, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:56:50 PM
Yesterday, another radical futurist sent me an e-m... by Kyle Griffith on Friday, May 1, 2009 at 10:42:30 AM
"...[T]he present Swine Flu outbreak is indee... by Tom Murphy on Friday, May 1, 2009 at 12:57:12 PM
Hi Tom, re: "That was a very interesting ar... by Kyle Griffith on Friday, May 1, 2009 at 5:40:14 PM
Consider the skyrocketing stock values of Novavax,... by William Whitten on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at 10:10:38 AM