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Earlier this month, on May 8th, I gritted my teeth to do what I do less and less anymore-- switched to Fox News to check out the "enemy."  Bill O'Reilly was on, interviewing John Lovitz, who'd recently been critical of Obama. During the ten minutes I tolerated watching the Faux network, O'Reilly said, literally, "I despise progressives." He then went on to say something, and this in not necessarily the literal quote, "but liberals are okay."


That really struck me, especially in light of Chris Hedges book, Death of the Liberal Class, which I discussed with him in an interview on my radio show about 18 months ago (podcast here: Chris Hedges; Death of the Liberal Class and a Call For Rebellion )

The truth is some people consider the words liberal and progressive interchangeable. Others see progressives as different. In polls I commissioned by the Zogby organization in 2006, I found that progressives considered themselves left of liberal. That's my take and I think the take of Hedges and others.

O'Reilly's stark remark got me thinking. Why would he be okay with liberals but despise progressives?  Me, I tend to lump liberals with Obama Democrats-- who have been lulled, like boiling frogs, to accept more and more evil through the lesser of two-evilism that they keep embracing as they've accepted Democratic leaders who look more and more like Republicans. Hell, I think Obama is, outside of women's rights, to the right of Reagan and Nixon. 

But I wanted to get an idea how other progressives thought about O'Reilly's remarks. So I wrote to some of the people I think of as progressive leaders-- but only people I thought might reply. Here's what I wrote to the first ones;

yesterday Bill O'Reilly said he "despises progressives"

But he's okay with liberals. 

Any thoughts on this? I'm working on an article in response to it. Would love a sentence or paragraph from you.

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 Once I got started, I began thinking of other progressive leaders, and then I thought, "who really are the progressive leaders. What do I know? I call my radio show bottom up radio, and try to walk the bottom up talk, so I put the question to my readers at Opednews.com, with an article, Who are the Leading, Top Progressives?   Commenters added some great suggestions-- some people I didn't have contact information for and some I did. I emailed the ones I thought would respond. 

Here are the responses that came in. 

Glen Ford, Black Agenda Report, 

A progressive seeks change that radically transforms power relationships in society, with the goal of eliminating, to the greatest extent possible, material and other socially-produced disparities among human beings. Progressives will argue about what is possible, but not about the goal: a truly democratic human polity.

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Ray MGovern, former CIA Intelligence Analyst

Rob, I'm actually a progressive conservative. You are no doubt aware of JFK's great quote on liberals, cited below:

John F. Kennedy said this about liberals:  If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party nomination ( 14 September 1960 )

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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Far right - tea party, libertarians - get rid of t... by Philip Pease on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 10:39:46 AM
I don't like political labels. I find them divisi... by Daniel Geery on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 10:44:45 AM
Mr. Kall, why don't you simply do the right thing.... by J. Dexter Smith on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 11:51:13 AM
Bill O'Reilly hates everybody who has a different ... by Paul from Potomac on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 12:01:34 PM
To me, a liberal believes in social justice and eq... by Jillian Barclay on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 12:11:26 PM
If it is okay with you, I will be quoting some of ... by TNProgressive on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 12:27:58 PM
.... about the apparently common usage of these te... by Gary Anderson on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 12:51:23 PM
Ray McGovern: Although I have listened to Mr. McGo... by Tim Sanders on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 1:57:01 PM
True liberals are the same as progressives, in my ... by Don Smith on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 2:17:52 PM
Thanks, Rob.  I am going to print a copy of t... by Alyce Guinn on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 2:19:06 PM
On one site I used to frequent, people were happy ... by J. Edward Tremlett on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 3:49:01 PM
I think you need professional help. I do not say t... by J. Edward Tremlett on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 5:30:00 PM
this is what happened when you comment on a post t... by J. Edward Tremlett on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 7:27:50 PM
is why anyone gives a f*ck what Bill O'Reilly (Oh,... by molly cruz on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 8:01:44 PM
We should be rgateful for O'Reilly for making ghe ... by Dar Gary on Monday, May 21, 2012 at 1:02:06 AM
as being manifested in the same political applicat... by Michael Shaw on Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:59:51 AM
would be that  we really don't care what he t... by Mark Sashine on Monday, May 21, 2012 at 8:05:15 AM
I think the only person who has any guts and knows... by liberalsrock on Monday, May 21, 2012 at 9:01:08 AM
although I cannot say the article is dumb- it ju... by Mark Sashine on Monday, May 21, 2012 at 10:11:33 AM
Liberals, progressives? Same thing. Chomsky had ... by Thomas Brown on Monday, May 21, 2012 at 11:56:56 AM
It seems to me that a "Progressive" sees More Poss... by Daniel Penisten on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 12:27:20 AM
The David Letterman Show last night. He was talkin... by Michael Shaw on Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:01:54 AM