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On Torture and Prosecuting the President

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The question is no longer whether or not we should investigate and prosecute President Bush for any involvement in torture. According to his own words in his new book, Decision Points, he openly admits to having authorized its implementation. Who knows what his reason(s) for such a bizarre announcement. And frankly, who cares? Whether it was out of arrogance or guilt or shame or for redemption or fear and threat of exposure and retaliation by others involved, the question has answered itself.

Of course we should and we must prosecute. Our democracy and reason for being, our Constitution demands it. The fact that he took so long to admit to this most heinous of crimes, no matter what his status or personal belief and reasoning and justification and explanation, does not mitigate his actions. We are left with no choice. Did not Hitler and Hussein have their own reasons and justification for torture? Not prosecuting would make every citizen of this once-proud country guilty of the same crime. Worse, it would send a very dangerous message indeed to other potential criminals that some laws do not have to apply to all people; that some, if they merely feel they should be, are or can be "above" the laws. We elect our president and expect him to uphold and obey our laws, the country's laws, our treaties, not spit on them nor decide to his liking which ones make sense to him when convenient. It is what makes us a democracy and not a dictatorial police state.

We cannot forgive a President simply because he was the President, who thought under the circumstances he was doing the right thing, ignorant and irresponsible and un-American and criminal as that was. We must prosecute relentlessly, across the aisle, anyone and everyone who was privy to this information and did nothing to expose or stop it as well as anyone and everyone who does not come forward, who would obstruct the pursuit of justice towards this end. That a full scale investigation and prosecution of torture might "hurt the morale" of the CIA is no argument against it. From everything I've been reading about our CIA lately, more than a little humility and downsizing might be in the country's best interest. My heart really bleeds for the CIA....and the KGB.

The question to be asking as citizens not only of this country but of the world is whether President Bush should be executed or spend the rest of his life in prison as a constant reminder to all world leaders faced with the same choices; not which punishment he would prefer but which makes the most sense and sends the strongest message. The egregious, universally accepted crime he committed is now, with his confession, a hard, cold fact not in any way mitigated by his admission (with or without remorse). We are not left with a "tough" decision. Sad yes, maybe for the disillusioned and demented who agreed with his policies. But not tough. And much sadder for the Nation should we fail to prosecute (as we did against Hitler and Hussein for exactly the same reason). This may be compassionless, but no less so than the crime to which he has confessed. The situation is not unlike Gary Gilmore's "bluff" of the courts and the "mice and cowards" who were afraid to enact their own laws. This is a no brainer. The man has admitted to and is thus guilty of the most serious of all human crimes, authorizing and implementing torture; crimes far worse than Gary Gilmore's. It's time when all politicians must face the music. It comes with the territory and is part of the job; the down side, if you will, to the celebrity status they gain from winning our trust but then breaking it. The world is watching (and has been for some time). Our legacy and conviction and moral fiber, the future of our country and what we leave to our children hangs in the balance. Are we free and brave, a land of law, or is it and has it been all talk?

 

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I'd feel better by Nick van Nes on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:49:00 AM
For what it's worth, by Nick van Nes on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:40:51 PM
Glad they did it. by sbaker on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 1:42:28 PM
By condoning you are as guilty. by Vaikunthanath Kaviraj on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:34:19 PM
Please re-think your response. by Nick van Nes on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:49:52 PM
One Could Also by Dennis Kaiser on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:12:02 AM
sbaker's morality by Gustav Wynn on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:20:40 AM
There Is No Hard Evidence That OBL Had Anything To Do: by Charlene Richards on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:19:42 AM
Charlene and Osama by Gustav Wynn on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:20:47 PM
They didnt. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:36:19 PM
It's people by Archie on Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:49:12 PM
War Criminal by Bill Cain on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:43:19 PM
blair by bruce powell on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:53:08 PM
That was awesome by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:13:25 AM
Why Do You Think by Dennis Kaiser on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:29:00 AM
Europeans by bruce powell on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:09:04 AM
Is This Evidence? by Dennis Kaiser on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:23:16 AM
Couldn't agree with you more by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:22:06 AM
Where do we go.......... by Robert P. Philipps on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:01:33 PM
Darned if I know. by Philip Dennany on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:17:58 PM
I hear what you're saying by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:30:25 AM
Project Blue beam by Bill Cain on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:00:23 AM
A Poem for George Bush by Michael Levinson on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:01:05 PM
Cold, hard fact? by Peter Duveen on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:25:46 PM
Fine. by Nick van Nes on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:33:04 PM
He Stole two elections by Mel Smith on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:21:42 PM
Bush/Cheney by Dennis Kaiser on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:33:23 AM
I don't believe by Archie on Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:48:06 PM
I'm with you by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:00:55 AM
And if anyone has the slightest doubt by gravity32 on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:30:21 AM
Agreed by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:52:49 AM
"A good place to start is here". Thanks Gravity by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:42:39 AM
Nobody wants to be the last person to see the light by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:53:56 AM
Thanks. by Jeff Poster on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:13:37 PM
Book tour by bruce powell on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:22:42 AM
Timing of the Waterboarding admission by Gustav Wynn on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:09:26 AM
Personally by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:11:48 PM
So What? by Sherwin Steffin on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:19:18 PM
So plenty by Nick van Nes on Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:41:57 PM
What about his legal advisors by Todd Marshall on Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:39:12 AM
I don't know how much Israel by Nick van Nes on Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:51:20 PM
Prosecution of GWB by Osvaldo Lugo on Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:10:15 PM
For sure by Nick van Nes on Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:11:24 PM
prosecute Bush? by edward stein on Tuesday, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:54:54 AM
It's only sad if we don't make it happen by Nick van Nes on Tuesday, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:20:51 PM
The problems are by GLloyd Rowsey on Tuesday, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:30:12 PM
OK, GLloyd by Nick van Nes on Tuesday, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:30:51 PM
That personal action you took with the newspaper by GLloyd Rowsey on Wednesday, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:58:55 PM
Yeah, for every one person we can convince by Nick van Nes on Wednesday, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:42:27 PM
But not a scattergun approach, Nick. by GLloyd Rowsey on Wednesday, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:52:40 PM
Capiche by Nick van Nes on Wednesday, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:18:25 PM
Sorry by Nick van Nes on Wednesday, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:23:31 PM
A big assumption by Sherwin Steffin on Wednesday, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:21:48 PM
I think you are largely right, Sherwin, by GLloyd Rowsey on Wednesday, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:45:12 PM