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June 28, 2008 at 10:46:20

Is Obama Really A Change Candidate? Perhaps Not

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It is not that the recent centrist moves by Obama involve issues that are vital.  One can even argue that perhaps politically his vote on FISA, support of the 2nd Amendment, and opposing limits on the death penalty are less important than the need to win in November by appealing to the so-called center.  The issue is betrayal to a promise of change.

One of my favorite political science professors was Milton Rakove who I had the good fortune of having a class with at the University of Illinois in 1964.  He had the right balance of pragmatism and principal.  He astutely observed that one has to be elected to govern.  So he did not advocate radical positions in an election campaign. Which gets me back to the recent Obama move to the center.

While Bill Clinton and the DLC claim that their move to the center helped elect Clinton, I argue that it was really Ross Perot that won the election for Clinton.  Perot was the reform candidate whose campaign fell apart primarily because he could not sustain his message credibly.  Yet he was in the end able to take away votes from Bush 41.  Clinton was a minority President in 1992 and 1996. It was hardly a mandate yet the Democrats have accepted this urban myth.

The so-called Obama movement for change probably will work for the November election because many of the new voters have no real memory of the past failed strategies of the Democratic political advisors.  However, knowing Obama's political record in Illinois, I am becoming disillusioned by his recent decisions because his record in Illinois is clearly practical Chicago based politics as usual.

His recent joining forces with many in the Clinton Administration scares me.  Madeline Albright advised Hillary to vote for the Iraq war resolution and her view of Realpolitiks is hardly reformist.  Yet she was sitting around the table with Obama as a sign of unity.  There has never been any objective evidence I have seen that moving to the so-called political center has ever helped Democrats.

I am hopeful that Obama's idea of change that he campaigned about is more than just words.  He claims that the old Washington ways of doing things do not work and most of the country agrees with him.  But, I am disappointed in what I believe is more than an anomaly.  He may be classified as a liberal but I believe he has a very cautious, conservative personality.  Being mentored by Durbin may help, but he must act like a change candidate and start taking some bold positions about specific issues.  He probably will win in November but it would be a good idea to have the unconditional support of most life long FDR Democrats like myself.  FDR did not play the game not to lose.  He boldly presented new ideas courageously understanding the practicalities of politics. Obama has to think more like FDR in 1932 and 2008 is more like 1932 than any other election in recent history.

 

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Sheldon Drobny was the co-founder of Nova M radio and Air America Radio. He has supported many philanthropic causes and is currently involved in purchasing radio stations for liberal talk radio with his new company, Nova M Radio, Inc. Mr. Drobny specializes in business and tax matters and is admitted to practice before the U.S. Tax Court as a non-attorney. Less than 200 non-attorneys have been admitted to practice before the U.S. Tax Court since its inception in 1942. Mr. Drobny received a Bachelor of Science Degree in accounting from Roosevelt University in Chicago and is a member of Beta Gamma Sigma, an honorary fraternity recognizing acadamic achievement in colleges of business administration.

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Mixed feelings here

I support Obama...at least someone leaning to the center is safer for America's future than someone breaking through the wall at the right.  We can't afford, perhaps can't survive another Bush term.  McCain as proxy is all we would have, along with the same baggage McCain has been dragging around the Senate for way too many years already.  McCain is so far from "new" or "change" as to be laughable.

 We have to accept compromises along the way because no one can please everyone.

by Paul Kruger (29 articles, 1 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 247 comments) on Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 4:53:47 PM
 


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John HanksHater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired

I like Obama personally.

But, I doubt that he can make the drastic changes that we need  (namely taxing the rich into extinction).  He could never have gotten where he is without passing the tests of crooked rich gate keepers.

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1203 comments) on Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 7:51:32 PM
 


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Idealistic vs. Realistic

I believe that Obama will try to fix FISA after he is elected.  The bill passed by a large number.  If Obama's vote had voted no, McCain would have been all over the news saying that Obama voted against measures to keep us safe from terrorist.

by Laura Kay (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 35 comments) on Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 12:15:20 AM
 


Having lived six decades now, I've had a lot of experiences! Grew up in a family often oppressed because of our faith - we stood for peace and against war, and for the rights of all regardless of ethnic background. Active from youth in peace and civil rights. Vietnam-era draft resister. Worked for a while for peace and social justice groups, and then became a civil servant. Felt a call to a consistent life ethic, and am currently serving as President of Consistent Life. All this is out of Chr...

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Bill SamuelHaving lived six decades now, I've had a lot of experiences! Grew up in a family often oppressed because of our faith - we stood for peace and against war, and for the rights of all regardless of ethnic background. Active from youth in peace and civil rights. Vietnam-era draft resister. Worked for a while for peace and social justice groups, and then became a civil servant. Felt a call to a consistent life ethic, and am currently serving as President of Consistent Life. All this is out of Chr...

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No change

Obama provides no evidence whatsoever that he has more than rhetoric about change.  It has occurred to me that what he is running for is Defender of the Myth.  Basically he is saying that he is the best defender of the establishment myth about America because of his compelling personal story. He got angry at Jeremiah Wright and eventually disowned him because, like prophets throughout history, Wright deflated the myth.  The myth is a substantial distortion, but Obama insists it is the truth.  That is essentially the substance of his criticism of Wright.

McCain and Obama defend basically the same myth about America. The election is about who can do that best. If like Jeremiah Wright, you don't believe the myth, you shouldn't vote for the candidates of the myth.

And Obama is by temperament conservative, more so than McCain.  So conservative that a few prominent conservatives, like Andrew Sullivan and Peggy Noonan, are supporting him.

by Bill Samuel (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 277 comments) on Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 7:27:27 PM
 


I am a Vietnam Vet disabled by MS and other various diseases.  On average I am a Moderate with slight Conservative leanings although it truly depends on what issue I am concerned with at the time.
Hayesml47I am a Vietnam Vet disabled by MS and other various diseases.  On average I am a Moderate with slight Conservative leanings although it truly depends on what issue I am concerned with at the time.

What Barack is!

Barack Obama is not the savior of our country nor is he a great shining light.  What he is, is, the most electable candidate we have to end the horrid Bush-Cheney debacle that has threatened to bring to an end not only the American dream but America herself.   Obama represents a real, if somewhat political, human being instead of a drugged clone like McCain has become.   It is amazing and very disheartening to hear and see the assine derogatory attacks on Obama.   If we were truly a civilized society these racist remarks would never see the light of day.  Obviously we still have a long way to go as the human race struggles to become a worthy addition to the living creatures on this planet. 

by Hayesml47 (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 471 comments) on Monday, June 30, 2008 at 2:59:56 PM
 

 

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