The FBI has admitted, officially, that it cannot find any 'evidence' or documentation to support popular myths that some four airliners were hijacked by terrorists and used as weapons on 911. Their investigation, says the FBI, was based upon the never questioned assumption that the said flights had been hijacked. The Bush 'presidency' is not an administration; it is a criminal conspiracy!
This comes on the heels of my recent article in which I cited flight data released by the NTSB indicating that Flight 77 never dropped below 273 feet. That's a job the FBI should have done. The latest disclosure from the FBI, however, pull the rug from beneath a panoply of black-hearted lies by Bush and most of his administration. The official conspiracy theory of 911 is kaput!
There is not a shred of evidence in support of anything said by Bush about 911 at any time. Bush's official conspiracy theory is now proven to have been a tissue of lies from its inception! It is now proven to have been based, at least in part, upon mere assumptions by the FBI. It may be more accurate to conclude that Bush, his administration and enablers, would not have gotten away with it had the FBI done its job.
Let's put this another way: there is absolutely nothing to support Bush/Rummie/Powell/Rice assertions with regard to any aspect of 911. In short: Bush has absolutely nothing with which he may prove any statement ever made by him or his administration with regard to the crime of mass murder called '911' for short!
The following statement from David M. Hardy, Section Chief, Records, FBI, was posted on 911Bloggers.com:
The following is a statement by the Section Chief of the Record/lnformation Dissemination Section ("RlDS") of the FBI regarding the unsuccessful search for records or facsimiles of records, pertaining the 4 aircraft identified by the FBI and NTSB as being used during terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 or wreckage generated by them, including 2 flight data recorders.
This statement is a defense exhibit for use in an upcoming oral arguments hearing pertaining to a federal court case for records for the 4 aircraft used during the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
SEARCH FOR RECORDS RESPONSlVE
TO PLAINTIFF'S REQUEST
Plaintiff's original FOIA request sought "documentation pertaining to any formally and positively identified debris" from the aircraft used in the September 11th attacks. In response to this request, RIDS personnel at FBIHQ understood that any potentially responsive records would have been compiled for law enforcement purposes and would be located in a pending file because of an ongoing law enforcement investigation.
RIDS personnel therefore determined that any records would be withheld in their entirety pursuant to 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(7)(A).
The FBI then received a copy of plaintiff's complaint for injunctive relief, later amended, wherein plaintiff requested the FBI to "produce agency records, concerning documentation revealing the process by which wreckage recovered by defendant, from the aircraft used during the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, was positively identified by defendant (with the aid of the National Transportation Safety Board) as belonging to the said aircraft, presumably through the use of unique serial number identifying information contained by the said aircraft wreckage, that was collected by defendant and which defendant has improperly withheld from plaintiff."
In response to this request, RlDS conducted a search for potentially responsive records at FBIHQ on February 11, 2008. A search of the CRS was conducted using the following subjects: "Airline Debris," "Debris Identification," "Commercial Aircraft," "Aircraft Identification," "Aircraft Debris," "Aircraft Wreckage," "Aircraft," "Recovered Debris," "National Transportation and Safety Bureau," "National Transportation Safety Board," "NTSB," "American Airlines," "American Airlines Flight," "American Airlines Flight Eleven," "American Airlines Flight Number 11," "American Airlines Flight 77," "N334AA," "N612UA," "N644AA," "N591UA," "Flight 175," "Flight 11," "Flight 77," "Flight 93," "Identifying Aircraft Parts," "Factual Report Aviation," "Federal Aviation Administration," "Pentbomb," "Ground Zero," "Freshkills Landfill," and "Fresh Kills Landfill."
Despite this extensive and detailed search effort, RlDS has been unable to locate any FBI records responsive to plaintiffs request.RIDS' search efforts included a verification by the case agent for the investigation. The case agent stated that since the identities of the four hijacked aircraft have never been in question by the FBI, NTSB or FAA (evidence collected after September 11, 2001 has corroborated the fact that American Airlines Flight 11, United Airlines Flight 175, American Airlines Flight 77 and United Flight 93 were the aircraft hijacked), no records would have been generated responsive to plaintiffs request for documents.
Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1746, I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct, and that Exhibits A-J attached hereto are true and correct copies.
Executed this 8th day of August, 2008
David M. HARDY Section Chief Records/Information Dissemination Section Records Management Division Federal Bureau of investigation, Washington, DC
Len Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy
Comment from Ratings: Not surprising at all that they assumed and concluded poorly on the jets. That's been their specialty since Hoover, and taken to new heights by the Bush regime.
The real surprise is how we keep taking it, year after year. Remember their motto - lie and deny. Just the opposite of integrity, justice and balance.
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Jim Prues (15 articles, 33 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 77 comments)
on Thursday, September 4, 2008 at 1:34:23 PM
Looks like Len still hasn't interviewed anyone directly involved with the rescue, recovery or clean-up of the Pentagon.
Because if he were to, they'd confirm to him that indeed flight 77 flew into the Pentagon. They'd relay stories about the charred bodies of airline passengers being found still in their mangled seats. They'd talk about the various parts of an American Airlines plane they saw/found/recovered/photographed.
And if he were to interview anyone involved with the forensic identifications of the victims of the crash, he'd be told that all but one was identified. He's be told that these were the same people who boarded the flight upon its departure.
It never ceases to amaze me that Opednews continues to allow such unfounded baseless speculation on its site that so offends the memory of those lost on 9/11, while at the same time always searching for ways to become a respected "progressive" outlet/forum.
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Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 776 comments)
on Thursday, September 4, 2008 at 5:59:33 PM
Seeing evidence of plane parts, even those ID'd with the AA logo, and body parts (they could have been people in the Pentagon), does not prove AA 77 hit the pentagon.
If AA 77 was shot down, the DNA specimens could have come from this site, wherever it was.
The flight path chosen by an inexperienced pilot only to hit the part of the Pentagon undergoing renovation, which was also the accounting department was curious. A more direct route would have allowed the plane to hit where the big shots were, and been a much easier and quicker path.
The lack of air cover over DC has also failed to have been adequately explained.
The lack of video showing the plane is curious. Surely the pentagon had more than a couple of poor quality parking lot surveillance cameras for securing one of the most sensisitive buildings in the country. The video released was essentially 5 grainy stills that show nothing conclusive.
Something hit the pentagon, what it was seems questionable.
Thanks for the link to the book, I should read this, but remember what witnesses say can be controlled, and they may have been pre-selected.
Anyways, after 7 years, this is pretty much history. There may be another commission, but it will also be a whitewash. NIST's ridiculous report on WTC 7 proves that in this world, the public will believe the most ridiculous explanations. They do not want to know. The myths are more comforting.
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pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 576 comments)
on Thursday, September 4, 2008 at 7:55:47 PM
The flight path chosen by an inexperienced pilot only to hit the part of the Pentagon undergoing renovation, which was also the accounting department was curious. A more direct route would have allowed the plane to hit where the big shots were, and been a much easier and quicker path.
Good point! Hani Hanjour most certainly could NOT have done it. He would have been challenged to land a Cessna! Moreover, there is NO evidence that Hani Hanjour was on the flight at all! His name is NOT on the official autopsy list that was released in response to an FOIA request.
In fact, NONE of those 'hiajckers' who were 'said' to have been on the Flight are named in the OFFICIAL CORONOR'S report released in response to an FOIA request. We have only the word of a proven liar that there were ANY Arab Hijackers at all. We have only the word of known liars that there was a CONSPIRACY of radical Arabs to hijack US flights. It is an absurd and outlandish CONSPIRACY theory for which there is NOT A SHRED of hard or credible evidence whatseover.
BUSH'S OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY IS PURE BULLSHIT!
It gets even worse for Bush defenders. Two security guards --considered until recently 'good witnesses' in support of the 757 theory could NOT have seen what they claim or what they believe they saw --namely, a 757 in the air and heading for the Pentagon just seconds before the crash.
The official flight data released by NTSB [FOIA] proves Flight 77 could not have knocked over or damaged light poles on either side of the motorway beside the Pentagon. Flight 77 data indicates that the flight was at the wrong angle of approach and much to high. The lowest altitude recorded after takeoff is 273 feet. The light poles are about 40 feet high.
Not only was Flight 77 much too high to damage a forty foot pole, its path varies by some 20 degrees from a path necessary to have inflicted damage to the poles.
Moreover, if whatever struck the poles also struck the Pentagon, the two famous security guards COULD NOT HAVE SEEN IT. Anything striking the poles would have been BEHIND them and in a direction OPPOSITE the direction that the guards had indicated they were facing at the time of the alleged airliner sighting.
Clearly --something struck both the Pentagon AND the poles. But whatever it was it was NOT Flight 77 which flight data indicates never dropped below 273 feet and was, in fact, on the wrong trajectory to have struck the poles. And whatever it was, it was NOT seen by the two security guards.
Something ELSE struck the poles. And whatever struck the poles is most probably what struck the Pentagon.
It was NOT Flight 77.
A Global Hawk, perhaps? Certtainly, the ONLY rotor that was recovered from among the wreckage was about one third the size of each of two rotors found on the wings of a 757.
Now --had Bush NOT ordered the forensic evidence carted off and destroyed [destruction of evidence is a crime!] we might have determined precisely the origin of the ONLY rotoer, the SINGLE rotor that was found and photographed on the Pentagon lawn.
I will not be surprised when an expert analysis of that photograph demonstrates beyond any reasonable doubt that its origin is that of a Global Hawk.
What are the implications of that?
Simply this: if it was a Global Hawk that crashed into the Pentagon, causing the deaths of some 125 Pentagon employees, then it is simply impossible NOT to conclude that the operation was carried out under the direction of the US government itself.
That makes 911 a case of mass murder and high treason. People have been hanged for less.
At last --whoever has overtly worked to quashed investigations, ordered the destruction of evidence most certainly guilty of having conspired at the very highest levels of the US government to perpetrate the crime of mass murder and high treason upon the people of the United States.
BTW --'white shirted' Pentagon employees (presumably) were photographed obviously planting 'evidence' that does not exist in some of the photographs, presumably taken before evidence could have been planted but AFTER the crash. The fatal flaw is that a 757 is weighs about 100 tons. If ALL the debris 'recovered' at the Pentagon were weighed, it would have been a small fraction of that amount. I've covered crashed, some at higher speeds than those attributed to Flight 77! In EVERY instance, there was wreckage that was equal in weight (minus spent fuel, of course) to the aircraft prior to crash.
Bush screwed up! His administration assumed absolute power but they DO NOT have the power to REPEAL the laws of the conservation of matter and energy.
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Len Hart (134 articles, 175 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 554 comments)
on Friday, September 5, 2008 at 4:50:53 AM
Alan, no one has said that NO ONE died at the Pentagon.
Obviously people died at the Pentagon! That's why this is a case of mass murder and whomever was the ring leader of it ought to be charged wih capital crimes, arrested, tried, and when found guilty --executed.
NOT EVEN THE FBI BELIEVES THAT PERSON TO BE BIN LADEN.
The 'official autopsy list' WAS released in response to an FOIA request!
1) Hani Hanjour's name is NOT on it. Nor the names of any 'SAID' hijakcers whatsoever.
2) Official flight data released by the NTSB in response to an FOIA request indicates that after take-off, Flight 77 NEVER descended below 273 feet.
Show me an OFFICIAL AUTOPSY list with a single arab name on it!
SHOW ME SOME 100 TONS OF 757 WRECKAGE!
It's Bush's theory --NOT mine! It's up to Bush and his ill-informed and illogical defenders to prove their bullshit.
If the KNOWN evidence does not add up...that's Bush's problem! If Bush's OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY does not explain official and observed facts, that's a PROBLEM with Bush's theory!
I don't have a theory! I have a DEMAND...a DEMAND that 911 be fully invesgtigated.
If an airliner had really crashed into the Pentagon, I suspect Bush would have been the first one to release EVERY PHOTOGRAPH that had been taken of the Pentagon that day.
Sigh....he didn't do that. It has been my experience --personal and professional --that ONLY GUILTY PEOPLE HAVE A COMPELLING MOTIVE TO COVER UP THEIR CRIMES. Bush has overtly covered up the crime of 911 --ordering the destruction of evidence, lying about 911 after the fact, using a false interpretation of 911 to start wars of naked aggression upon pretexts that were themselves bald-faced lies.
THERE IS PROBABLE CAUSE NOW TO INDICT GEORGE W. BUSH FOR MASS MURDER AND HIGH TREASON IN CONNECTION WITH 911!
In my experience, covering murder trials, I have NEVER, EVER seen an innocent person cover up a crime. Conversely, only GUILTY people are sufficiently motivated to cover up a crime.
Covering up crimes and quashing investigations is what GUILTY people do. In my opinion, Bush's continued cover up, his overt actions to quash and destroy evidence amount to probable cause to charge him, arrest him, and investigate him.
I am confident that a COMPLETE and THOROUGH investigation will answer all your questions and more Alan.
Have patience! The Truth movement is working to bringing that about.
With ANY luck all questions will be answered and all mass murderers will find themselves charged and sitting in a dock awaiting the bad news.
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Len Hart (134 articles, 175 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 554 comments)
on Friday, September 5, 2008 at 2:18:02 AM
Show me that you've interviewed someone, anyone directly involved in the rescue/recovery effort. Most people, and all responsible journalists, would do that, that is if they are really interested in what really happened.
You've demonstrated quite clearly that you aren't.
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Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 776 comments)
on Friday, September 5, 2008 at 2:51:16 AM
Show me that you've interviewed someone, anyone directly involved in the rescue/recovery effort. Most people, and all responsible journalists, would do that, that is if they are really interested in what really happened.
I don't have to show you shit! You are defending a bogus theory for which there is NOT A SHRED of evidence. Nor can you produce any! In fact, you have FAILED to produce a shred of evidence to support your bias.
The burden of proof is on you!
You interview them!
And while you're at it ---gather up some 100 tons of debris and trace it back to a 757, specifically, the SAME 757 that NTSB flight data says NEVER DROPPED BELOW 273 FEET AFTER IT TOOK OFF!
Had there been a COMPLETE AND THOROUGH INVESTIGATION of 911, the interviews would have been done as a matter of course.
Clue: it is NOT my job to round up and track down at my own expense and air fare WITNESSES who should have been interviewed as a matter of course and routine in the very investigation that GEORGE W. BUSH QUASHED!!!!!!!
Now ---put up or shut up!
Show me some 100 tons of wreckage and trace it to Flight 77 which NTSB data says NEVER descended below 273 feet after takeoff!
Show me the name of a single Arab on the official Autopsy report!
It never ceases to amaze me that OP ED News continues to alllow a defense of an EVIL FUCKIN PERNICIOUS LIE FOR WHICH THERE IS NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE!
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Len Hart (134 articles, 175 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 554 comments)
on Friday, September 5, 2008 at 3:10:58 AM
FBI AGENTS ARE PROTECTORS OF PRIVILEGE /CORPORATIONS
This article title is extremely misleading. Taxpayer funded FBI agents were complicit in the planning, carrying out, and most important , cover-up of the 911 attacks. They were the perps of 911.Some FBI agents were the terrorists. You don't want to hear that about your bodyguards. That is the real issue here. Your bodyguards creating 911 with other members of the US Government. Because you and your species have relied on protection from your bodyguards for so long you have forgotten how to protect yourself. You have been "BLACKWATERIZED' One way to change this is for your species to start policing their own communities. You and the community go out on patrol. You and the community make the arrests.You and the community decide on how you want the crime resolved. You and the community decide to police themselves because you and the community are cognizant of the fact that institutions created by the community shape the psychological evolution of the community. Is the community ready to police itself? Is the community ready for restorative justice?
for a partial list of crimes committed by FBI agents over 400 pages long see
campusactivism.org
click on home
click on forum
scroll down to FBI WATCH
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mssarnhatt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 22 comments)
on Friday, September 5, 2008 at 9:00:02 AM
There is absolutely NOTHING misleading about this article. It is, however, carefully parsed. As it should be.
I think you may have mis-interpreted it. Secondly, you have obviously not read the additional articles that are linked to from within the above artible.
Taken as a whole --ALL indict the US Govt, the Bush admin specifically, and every other bureacracy in the US government that may have had an active role in 911 or, perhaps, in some cases, they just winked and looked the other way.
Don't jump to conlucions about my position. This is a complicated issue. Above is just one article of HUNDREDS that I've written and many of them have been run or linked to by some of the leading news sites and blogs on the internet.
But --I would not be surprised to learn that the FBI was complicit from the get go!
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Len Hart (134 articles, 175 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 554 comments)
on Friday, September 5, 2008 at 4:25:03 PM
No Len -- There are mountains of evidence to confirm AA77 hit the Pentagon -- you just refuse to either accept that it exists, or if you feel you can't trust the obvious conclusion that's been drawn based upon it, to go to the relevant sources to confirm it.
Have you read the book I suggested to you long ago and once again above, the one written by someone who was actually there, and whose account would be subject to scrutiny by others who were also there? It seems that if you're so concerned with this issue, and are presumably concerned with the truth -- it would be required reading.
It's too much trouble to make a few clicks on Amazon? 15- 20 bucks beyond your budget?
You don't seem to comprehend that actual testimony from people intimately involved with the aftermath completely trumps far-removed speculation that the hole wasn't big enough, or that there wasn't enough wreckage.
Show me the interview. In fact, I've given you an opportunity for essentially that -- for the cost of a K-Mart cowboy hat.
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Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 776 comments)
on Friday, September 5, 2008 at 7:22:12 PM
No Len -- There are mountains of evidence to confirm AA77 hit the Pentagon -- you just refuse to either accept that it exists, or if you feel you can't trust the obvious conclusion that's been drawn based upon it, to go to the relevant sources to confirm it.
Then cite it! And I am not talking about your goddamned book! I can write a book that proves the world is flat --but that doesn't make it so.
By supporting Bush's stupid theory, you have assumed the burden of proof!
That INCLUDES explaining the seemingly endless anomolies -- the FACT that there are NO ARAB NAMES on the official autopsy list released in resonse to an FOIA request, for example.
EXPLAIN THAT!
EXPLAIN the fact that NTSB data indicates that after take off Flight 77 NEVER DROPPED BELOW 273 feet!
You have yet to provide a SHRED of verifiable evidence to indicate that some 100 tons of debris was EVER --at any time --recovered from the Pentagon.
You have YET to explain the fact that the BBC interviewed many of the 'alledged' hijackers after the official theorists had claimed they all died in the crashes. How did they survive and the Pentagon employees did not?
You have yet to explain WHY the FBI has said that they have insufficient or NO evidence that Bin Laden was EVER connectioned with ANY of the events of 911!
In fact, Alan, you have BOUGHT into a sh*t theory because you are GULLIBLE. Face it, you were SUCKERED!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Len Hart (134 articles, 175 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 554 comments)
on Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 12:00:40 PM
Even it if had, Flight 77 COULD NOT have struck the Pentagon.
Interestingly, only ONE rotor was photographed on the Pentagon lawn and it was NOT a 757 rotor the diameter of which is about three times that of the ONLY rotor that was photographed beside a man whose height can be credibly estimated at between 5 foot 9 or about 6 foot 3 or so.
Several facts make this significant:
1) If ANY rotor could have survived such a crash, a 757 rotor should have but was not found!
2) If ANY rotor survived the Pentagon crash BOTH rotors of a 757 should have. In fact NO rotor traceable to a 757 was found!
3) At about one third the size of a 757 rotor, the SINGLE rotor found might be determined upon an expert analysis of the photo to have been from a Global Hawk.
The Global Hawk has quite a wing span --enough, I dare sa, to account for the POLE DAMAGE that, according to NTSB official flight data, COULD NOT have been caused by Flight 77 because 1) it was was the WRONG trajectory; 2) it was at an altitude of not less than 273 feet when the 40 ft poles were damaged!
The Global Hawk's wings, fuselage, fairings, nacelles, and tails are manufactured from high strength-to-weight composites.
To sum up: FLIGHT 77 DID NOT STRIKE THE PENTAGON.
If FLIGHT 77 DID NOT STRIKE THE PENTAGON, then Bush's theory should be discarded entirely. There is, in fact, no logical or scientific support for ANY PART of it!
The flaws in Bush's theory are fatal flaws and reveal Bush and his complicit associates throughout his administration are bald faced liars and --quite possibly --mass murderers.
I have cited MUCH, MUCH more than mere probable cause, the legal standard by which a police officer may make an arrest, conduct a personal or property search, or to obtain a warrant for arrest. Probable cause is the standard required of a grand jury to return an indictment for a crime committed. And --make no mistake --911 was and remains among the most heinous crimes ever committed. The term probable cause is found in the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution. It reads:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
--US Constitution, Fourth Amendment
A Federal Grand Jury in White Plains New York is, in fact, investigating 911, specifically Bush's cover up and the PROBABLE CAUSE that Bush and high level members of his administration, key Pentagon personnel (Rumsfeld??) et al have not only obstructed justice and destroyed material evidence, they were involved in planning and coordinating the crime itself.
The death penalty anyone convicted following a trial stemming from these indictments is too kind! Then again, the mass murder of some 3,000 innocent American citizens for purely political purposes and exploitation must be addressed and answered. Justice MUST be served or this is simply no longer justice to be found in the United States.
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Len Hart (134 articles, 175 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 554 comments)
on Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 12:35:04 PM
"You have YET to explain the fact that the BBC interviewed many of the 'alledged' hijackers after the official theorists had claimed they all died in the crashes. How did they survive and the Pentagon employees did not?" -- Len
Right. I noticed you didn't provide a transcript or video of said interviews. Because interviews with the men said by the FBI to have carried out 9/11 don't exist subsequent to 9/11, except in your mind apparently.
"You have yet" to demonstrate any interest in actually talking to people who are in a position to actually know things. The book "Firefight" is only one small opportunity for this. Instead, you insist on clinging to notions and concepts put forth by people who are not.
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Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 776 comments)
on Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 2:51:24 PM
I noticed you didn't provide a transcript or video of said interviews. Because interviews with the men said by the FBI to have carried out 9/11 don't exist subsequent to 9/11, except in your mind apparently.
I posted this LONG AGO ....where was your head?
This link is SO FAMOUS, the BBC tried to apologize for having told the truth. The story you see still kicks the official bullshit theory in the nuts:
"You have yet" to demonstrate any interest in actually talking to people who are in a position to actually know things
So what? What relevance do my interests have in anything? My interest is something does not --in itself --make it true or not! That's a stupid red herring and doesn't even address the issues:
Show me 100 tons of wreckage!
Show me HOW Flight 77 managed to crash into the Pentagon while reocrding an altitude of 273 feet. Clue: the height of the Pentagon is 71 feet.
Show me HOW Flight 77 managed to knock over 40 foot poles from an altitude of 273 feet while on a trajectory that differed from WHATEVER hit the poles by some 20 degrees!
You still have not shown an interest in 1) elementary logic 2) the laws of physics 3) buden of proof
Some advise: stop trying to shift the burden of proof. Here's how it works: those who assert must prove. Bush ASSERTED a THEORY.
Your probably is that by defending Bush, his tar baby is stuck on you. If you wish to defend Bush and his stupid theory, you are tasked with proving it!
You cannot prove it because there is not a shred of evidence in support of it.
You can start by producing some 100 tons of debris!
Until you do that, I don't even take you seriously.
No, sorry Len. That's not a link to a transcript or interview of one of the men identified by the FBI as carrying out the attacks of 9/11. It's merely an account of someone with a similar common Arab name trying to clear his name. You're really offering a speculative report done during the first confusing days after 9/11, that was later corrected, as proof that hijackers are still alive? Does the concept of gaining more information and correcting/updating the record occupy any real estate within your mind? Has every report you've ever written been in no need of correction or updating? Are you ..... perfect? Can you .... predict the future? You really think that some large-scale crime carried out by a bunch of American Smiths and Jones wouldn't produce similar accounts of what turned out to be mis-identifications? Really?
Surely if one of the men on the FBI list was really still alive today, we'd have seen him on Arab TV somewhere, sometime since 9/11. How desirable would it be for him to clear his name, not to mention the opportunity to taunt the hated U.S. He'd be the biggest hero in town. But alas, there are no interviews, no pictures, no video of any of the men on the FBI list post-9/11, and I think you very well know it.
So, produce an interview, picture or video of one of the men on the FBI's list, and/or testimony from someone directly involved in the rescue/recovery of the Pentagon confirming there was no AA wreckage or bodies in seats, and I'll take YOU seriously.
As is, someone so allergic to simple logic may be able to seduce a relative handful of fellow deniers on the Internet, but that's as far as it will ever go. Just so you know, and I think you do, and I think you're just fine with that. You don't really want your politically motivated fantasy to ever be publicly crushed in the big bad legitimate journalistic world beyond the safe backwaters of the Internet fringe.
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Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 776 comments)
on Sunday, September 7, 2008 at 1:13:52 AM
No, sorry Len. That's not a link to a transcript or interview of one of the men identified by the FBI as carrying out the attacks of 9/11.
I never promised a transcript!
Mevertheless, the BBC interview shoots a big hole in the official story WHICH STILL lists living hijackers among those who DIED in 911. Obviously, Bush officialdom doesn't believe that they were merely 'mis-identified'. Bush officialdom STIILL believes that the 'said' hijackers were on the Flight and died --though there is NO EVIDENT TO SUPPORT THAT FAIRY TALE.
Moreover, the BBC story is consistent with the FACT that none of the 'SAID' hijackers were autopsied. The best explanation for that is: they were NOT ON THE PLANE TO BEGIN WITH.
That every hijacker said to have been on Flight 77 may still be alive is consistent with the FACT that NTBS data indicates that Flight 77 NEVER dropped below 273 feet.
Moreover, Flight 77 was not only too high to have crashed the Pentagon, it was on the WRONG TRAJECTORY to have damaged the poles which officialdom says were damaged by Flight 77. Official is either wrong or lying or both!
Here is a list of the 'suspected' hijackers according to the official, outlandish conspiracy theory:
Flight 175: Marwan Al-Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi Flight 11: Waleed M Alshehri, Wail Alshehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz Alomari and Satam Al Suqami Flight 77: Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour Flight 93: Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi
NOT ONE OF THOSE NAMES APPEAR ON THE OFFICIAL AUTOPSY LIST!
Therefore, there is no evidence that they died. There is NO EVIDENCE that they were ever on the flight to begin with. There is no evidence that the plane was hijacked.
There is, in fact, ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE to the contrary i.e, that Flight 77 did not and COULD NOT have crashed into the Pentagon. NTSB Flight Data is unmistakeable:Flight 77NEVER dropped below 273 after take off.
A Saudi Arabian aircraft pilot who was named as one of five suspects on board one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Centre, has turned up alive and well in Morocco. The man, Waleed Al-Sheh
