Tags for This Article:

Morality Morals (232)  Love (174)  Sex (133)  Sexuality (54)  Pornography (21) 

Populum Tag Cloud
       Control Panel
Fine tune your search to access content
Articles
Diaries Products
Events All
All time
Last 6 mos
Last month
Last week
Last 24 hrs
From:
Month  Day   Year

To:
Month  Day   Year
Alphabet
Popularity
Count ON
Count OFF
This Level
Sub-levels

 

 

 

Tag(s): ; ; ; ;
Add to My Group
June 25, 2008 at 11:25:08

In Defense of (Some) Pornography

by Andrew Bard Schmookler     Page 1 of 3 page(s)

www.opednews.com

 

Tell A Friend

(0.0 from 0 ratings) View Ratings | Rate It

Introduction

 

In our society, pornography is considered something immoral, pernicious, shameful, scandalous. Those who produce it, and those who are its audience, are seen as disreputable.

(Pornography I am defining as any media that depict sexual matters and whose purpose –whatever the nature of the depiction (however subtle or blatant)—is to produce intense sexual arousal in its audience. Such media include pictures, stories, and videos.)

Looking at the whole universe of today’s pornography, one can certainly find much to object to in terms of what’s healthy for human relationships and what’s moral. But the American condemnation of pornography tends not to be confined to any particular kinds of pornography, but rather objects in principle to depictions whose purpose is the arousal of “prurient interest.”

It is in this more comprehensive condemnation that the defects in American morality’s relationship to sexuality are revealed. Indeed, I would argue that in a moral and sexually healthy society, there would be a respectable place for some kinds of pornography. And I would venture further that what’s wrong with the pornography in today’s America is merely the counterpart with what’s wrong with our culture’s sexual morality.

Where Does Sexuality Fit Into the Human Good?

 

Can you imagine any fully explicit depiction of people engaging in sex that you would think to be a good thing for some adults to make and for other adults to watch? If not, why not?

Our culture creates media –considered entirely legitimate and respectable-- that evoke in us the experience of grief. We have media expressions, generally held in high regard, that provoke us to the experience of fear. So also with anger and wonder and nostalgia, and other feelings that are part of the basic repertoire of human experiences.

If all these feelings can be the legitimate outcomes of our experiences of media (literature or film or painting or whatever), why should sexual arousal be different?

Is it because there’s some reason why sexuality uniquely should be kept private? But why should it be acceptable for our media to explore all kinds of other aspects of our lives in intimate detail but somehow must stop short of getting deeply into a sexual space?

Is your objection based on the idea that the conditions under which people are brought in to participate in the production of much of today’s pornography are exploitive or coercive? If so, would you approve if the conditions of such employment were fair and if the participation were freely chosen? Or do you maintain that no pornography could be produced if fairness and freedom of choice were protected? Is it your belief that in a healthy society, for no one would it be an acceptable and wise choice to participate in the creation of the pornography (issues of consumption aside)?

If you disapprove of all explicitly sexual, deliberately arousing media – if you disapprove of all pornography—is it because you think that there’s something fundamentally wrong, or base, or sinful, or dirty about sexuality?

This certainly has been a widespread attitude in the history of our civilization. But what is the justification for it?

Sexuality is not only necessary for the transmission of life, but sexual passion is one of the most powerful avenues along which people experience a gladness to be alive.

If “Therefore choose life” is supposed to be the injunction from the God of the Bible, why would the arousal of sexual desire be contrary to our notion of the sacred in human life?

Indeed there are some religious traditions –including some threads in the Judeo-Christian line—in which sexuality is seen as connected with the sacred.

 1  |  2  |  3

 

Andrew Bard Schmookler's website www.nonesoblind.org is devoted to understanding the roots of America's present moral crisis and the means by which the urgent challenge of this dangerous moment can be met. Dr. Schmookler is also the author of such books as The Parable of the Tribes: The Problem of Power in Social Evolution (SUNY Press) and Debating the Good Society: A Quest to Bridge America's Moral Divide (M.I.T. Press). He also conducts regular talk-radio conversations in both red and blue states.

Contact Author
Contact Editor
View Other Articles by Author

 

Bookmark this page: (what's this?)

NETSCAPE      DIGG THIS      Add This Page to Mr Wong!           NEWSVINE      DEl.ICIO.US      Looksmart Furl      My Web      Tag!RawSugar      Blink List     (More...)
Comments: Expand   Shrink   Hide  
5 comments

Rob Kall is executive editor and publisher of OpEdNews.com, President of Futurehealth, Inc, inventor . He is also published regularly on the Huffingtonpost.com. He is a frequent Speaker on Politics, Impeachment, The art, science and power of story, heroes and the hero's journey, Positive Psychology, Stress, Biofeedback and a wide range of subjects. He is a campaign consultant specializing in tapping the power of stories for issue positioning, stump speeches and debates. He recently retired as o...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Rob KallRob Kall is executive editor and publisher of OpEdNews.com, President of Futurehealth, Inc, inventor . He is also published regularly on the Huffingtonpost.com. He is a frequent Speaker on Politics, Impeachment, The art, science and power of story, heroes and the hero's journey, Positive Psychology, Stress, Biofeedback and a wide range of subjects. He is a campaign consultant specializing in tapping the power of stories for issue positioning, stump speeches and debates. He recently retired as o...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Sense and reality

Much of what you say makes a lot of sense, theoretically.

But the reality is that many, perhaps most of the women in the sex trade are victims of childhood sexual abuse.

You might argue that women who engage in the sex trade do so as willing adults. But it's not that simple.  

Children who are sexually abused learn that the way to take some sort of control in their horrific situation is to become the seducer, to actually be sexy. This causes sexualization of the child that would have otherwise not occurred. These children grow into adults who are comfortable being sexual seducers because they had to be as children. So, is their participation in pornography a fully voluntary choice or a symptom of their childhood abuse?

 

 

by Rob Kall (739 articles, 3816 quicklinks, 318 diaries, 1592 comments) on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 12:59:10 PM
 


Andrew Bard Schmookler's website www.nonesoblind.org is devoted to understanding the roots of America's present moral crisis and the means by which the urgent challenge of this dangerous moment can be met. Dr. Schmookler is also the author of such books as The Parable of the Tribes: The Problem of Power in Social Evolution (SUNY Press) and Debating the Good Society: A Quest to Bridge America's Moral Divide (M.I.T. Press). He also conducts regular talk-radio conversations in both red and blu...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Andrew Bard SchmooklerAndrew Bard Schmookler's website www.nonesoblind.org is devoted to understanding the roots of America's present moral crisis and the means by which the urgent challenge of this dangerous moment can be met. Dr. Schmookler is also the author of such books as The Parable of the Tribes: The Problem of Power in Social Evolution (SUNY Press) and Debating the Good Society: A Quest to Bridge America's Moral Divide (M.I.T. Press). He also conducts regular talk-radio conversations in both red and blu...

to see more of bio, click on member name

In Defense of SOME Pornography

The question I am asking is:  in an ideal world, consisting of undamaged people, would there be SOME kinds of pornography playing a positive role in some people's lives?

 One might say that there are two aspects of the question:  in that world, 1) would some people be an audience for some kinds of pornography?  and 2) would some people choose to participate in the making of some kinds of pornography?

I feel greater confidence in saying yes to the first than I do to the second.

 That being said, Rob, your comment leaves me wondering just what your position on my basic thesis is.  Are you saying that a) because in today's pornography industry, a great many of the workers in making pornography "are victims of childhood sexual abuse" therefore b) there is and could be no pornography of which we should approve?

 Is it your belief that undamaged people would never willingly participate in the making of media that depicts sexual matters in a way that is intended to produce intense sexual arousal in its audience?

In the piece above, I at no point endorse all pornography as a good.  I simply propose that SOME pornography can be a good and can deserve our approval. 

 I cannot tell if the point you are making in your comment is supposed to be a denial and refutation of that limited point.

by Andrew Bard Schmookler (297 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 140 comments) on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 1:10:32 PM
 


Grounded in family and rich in deprivation, Mr. Rankin is a U.S. Naval Veteran and engineering designer living near Akron, Ohio, where he and many are increasingly challenged by debt, inflation, wage suppression and the exodus of core industries. He is politically self-educated: a socially and environmentally progressive liberal. Outraged by the contemporary U.S. Government and it's lap-dog press, he is increasingly determined to help expose today's combination of corporatism, nationalism and ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Donald Rankin IIIGrounded in family and rich in deprivation, Mr. Rankin is a U.S. Naval Veteran and engineering designer living near Akron, Ohio, where he and many are increasingly challenged by debt, inflation, wage suppression and the exodus of core industries. He is politically self-educated: a socially and environmentally progressive liberal. Outraged by the contemporary U.S. Government and it's lap-dog press, he is increasingly determined to help expose today's combination of corporatism, nationalism and ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Puritanical Perspective

Dear Mr. Kall,

Psychobabble.  I enjoy (some) pornography, wholeheartedly agree with the ideas in Mr. Schmookler's article, and suspect you haven't been as critical of our sexual conditioning as you've been of our political conditioning.  Nevertheless, I deeply appreciate and respect you, and know you aren't ordinarily so ...Republican.

That said, why do you find it necessary to propose that performers in pornography are possibly exhibiting symptoms of childhood sexual abuse, rather than having simply made choices?  Really, one would think sex performers or workers who are comfortable in their careers would be an even greater rarity considering all the mud our society throws at them.  After all, what other fields would anyone so broadly attribute to supposed emotional scars?  Has anyone ever tried to so thoroughly delve into the whys of any other field?  Studied how many soldiers were sexually abused in childhood - or perhaps more relevantly, shot in childhood, for instance?  Of course not.  I feel the statistics you mentioned are basically needless, meaningless anti-sex propaganda.

If I were to join Mr. Schmookler in arguing for the opinions that he and I apparently share, I might add a few questions I don't remember him asking in his response to yours...

With our sexual perceptions tainted by our sexually disingenuous society, can we fairly accept every individual's definition or claim of childhood sexual abuse?

And if we can't fairly accept every definition or claim of childhood sexual abuse, aren't the abused sex-worker statistics you refer to questionable at best?

Further, do you believe that most people who were even undeniably sexually abused as children cannot subsequently make sound sexual choices?

Producing or consuming pornography may not be for everybody, but I don't feel it's at all reasonable to consider most people mentally or emotionally scarred or deficient for choosing to do either.

by Donald Rankin III (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 28 comments) on Monday, June 30, 2008 at 5:31:48 PM
 


Hater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired
John HanksHater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired

Anything bogus is pornographic.

Republican flags and Fundanazi crosses are pornographic.  In terms of sex, why does pornography have to be constantly produced.  If the porno business was socialized it could still contribute to masturbation and birth control on a non-profit basis.  There would be little need to have a constant parade of new models and subjects.

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 996 comments) on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 6:28:05 PM
 


I'm a citizen and resident of Cascadia - a province of the FORMER USA.

*************

Other than that, what is there to say? I don't really matter... My vote doesn't even count. ***
And who really cares what I think! So I'm free to think anything.

***

The broader story: it's NOT about "me" or my ego or seeing my name in print... I'm a fleeting ephemeral whirlwind of energy patterns and I will soon be gone...

It IS about many m...

to see more of bio, click on member name

mrk *I'm a citizen and resident of Cascadia - a province of the FORMER USA.

*************

Other than that, what is there to say? I don't really matter... My vote doesn't even count. ***
And who really cares what I think! So I'm free to think anything.

***

The broader story: it's NOT about "me" or my ego or seeing my name in print... I'm a fleeting ephemeral whirlwind of energy patterns and I will soon be gone...

It IS about many m...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Consider this aspect...

We live in a culture wherein it is totally acceptable to broadcast  for everyone, including children, to view very graphic depictions of one person murdering another - (switch on your TV any time of night or day and flip through the channels you are bound to see someone being shot, stabbed or brutalized) HOWEVER it is forbidden to show two consenting adults giving each other pleasure.

The not so subtle message: "Violence and murder are okay - making love is forbidden."

Just think about it: is that a culture anyone (anyone sane) would WANT to live in?

by mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 296 comments) on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 7:45:16 PM
 

 

5 comments

 

Tell A Friend

 


Copyright © OpEdNews, 2002-2008

Blog Ads

 

 

 

 

Most Popular Articles
in the Last 2 Days
(by Recommend Emails)

Loserville: Obama Is Channeling Kerry and Gore by Dave Lindorff

Are you ready for nuclear war? by Paul Craig Roberts

Fresh New Discovery - Can You Guess What This Photo Is? by Meryl Ann Butler

"Caroline: Pull a Cheney!" An Open Letter to Caroline Kennedy (head of the Obama VP search team) Posted by Stephen Fox

NSA MAY BE READING WINDOWS SOFTWARE IN YOUR COMPUTER by Sherwood Ross

The REAL John McCain by Mike Kuykendall

Mr. Bill: "OH NO, Fix the coast you broke, Shell Oil!" by Georgianne Nienaber

Brown's Gas ("HHO") : Clean, Cheap, and Suppressed Energy by Steve Windisch (jibbguy)

Russia to US: Checkmate! by William Helbig

New Zogby/Reuters Poll: Obama Down 5, in an Almost Perfect Storm by Rob Kall

Select Time
6 hrs 12 hrs
1 Day 2 Days
3 Days 1 Week
2 Weeks 1 Month
2 Months 3 Months
6 Months Last Year
Select Content
Articles Links
Diaries Members
Polls Events
All  
Select Popularity
Page Views
# of Comments
Recommend Emails