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If Gov. Rod Blagojevich deserves impeachment, so did Pres. Bush

by Mary MacElveen     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Yes, I am blistered like many concerning the corruption that surrounds the Illinois Governor, Rod Blagojevich as I suspect many Americans are since they despise their elected officials acting badly.  Not to support the governor in any way shape or form, one would think he committed acts of treason with the wall-to-wall coverage of this corruption case.

 

In listening to the coverage of this “Sad and sobering” event as expressed by President-elect Barack Obama, I did hear that the Illinois state legislature may begin impeachment proceedings against him.  They are allegedly doing so to wrest the power from Blagojevich so he cannot appoint someone to the senate seat recently vacated by President-elect Obama.

 

As the media covered this event and where impeachment was brought up, I did not hear any laughs or negative comments made of those state officials, as was done when others brought up any impeachment process directed at President Bush.  Both Cynthia McKinney and Congressman Dennis Kucinich have been marginalized in calling for Bush’s impeachment.  I guess everyone is on board when it comes to impeaching Blagojevich instead of Bush.

 

As I listened to U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and others express their outrage directed at this governor, you would have thought his acts of corruption caused the deaths of American soldiers and innocent Iraqi victims.

 

As Fitzgerald bleeped out the precise words coming from Blagojevich because it would offend a sensitive listener, one must ask: Why isn’t the media showing images of our dead soldiers and innocent Iraqis?  They act as if foul language coming from an elected official is an assault upon us all instead of a war of lies that cost the lives of human beings.

 

Robert M. "Mike" Duncan, chairman of the Republican National Committee had this to say of President-elect Obama, "President-elect Barack Obama's comments on the matter are insufficient at best." One can fire back to this committee-chair that President Bush's statement to ABC's, Charlie Gibson where Bush said he "was unprepared for war" as being insufficient.

 

The corruption allegedly perpetrated by Blagojevich did not result in the loss of lives.  I state allegedly since he is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

 

With folks like Karl Rove and Karen Hughes engaged in white-washing the Bush legacy to form it in a positive light, it will be folks like them who will do everything possible to attach this corruption scandal to our incoming president, Barack Obama.

 

In hearing some pundits compare Rod Blagojevich to Richard Nixon yesterday, dare I say Bush is the likely one that they should be comparing to Nixon?  Both escalated a war that did not have the backing of the American people and lied directly to all of us.  Let us remember that Scott McClellan (former Bush press secretary) stated that Bush was the one that outed Valerie Plame a CIA operative because her husband Joe Wilson countered Bush’s assertion that there was an Iraq/Niger connection.  In using that connection citing that Iraq was purchasing ‘yellow cake’ from Niger in his ‘State of the Union Address’, Bush directly lied to congress which is an impeachable offense.  Yet, they allowed him to get away with it.

 

I do suspect that the GOP will use this corruption scandal against President-elect Barack Obama, but let us remember one thing, it was under their president’s watch where America suffered an economic meltdown not seen in many of our lifetimes.

 

As Senator Shelby and others speak out against the bailout of the Big-Three automakers, citing that tax payer dollars should not be used, our tax dollars went to support foreign automakers who have only prospered in his state.

 

This corruption scandal that now surrounds Blagojevich is small in comparison to the financial meltdown that happened under Bush’s watch.  When 1.5 million Americans have lost their jobs, that is the true scandal.  When millions of Americans have been foreclosed upon that as well is the true scandal.  While Blagojevich allegedly tried to sell a senate seat, Bush sold America’s integrity to the highest bidders and many did profit such as Halliburton, Kellogg, Brown and Root and Bechtel.  These corporations profited at the expense of our soldiers and innocent Iraqis.  Let us never forget that.

 

If some are calling for Blagojevich’s impeachment, it was both Bush and Cheney who truly deserved it.  If some feel that Blagojevich should go to prison if convicted, it is none-other than Bush and Cheney who deserve to be tried at The Hague and convicted for war crimes against humanity.

 

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We share your frustration

But two wrongs don't make a right.

Hopefully, when this country wakes up, Bush/Cheney's time is coming. If we don't clean up our own act, the world will and should do it for us. And history will not tread lightly on us. How much do we credit the majority of Germans who capitulated to the Nazis?

I don't think it's fair to say that since the meltdown started under Bush it was his fault. Clearly he helped enable it. But I think it was inevitable that capitalism, as we practiced it, with growing disparity between the have and have nots, would fail. And well it should. Any bailout or alternative solution must recognize the impossibility of exponential growth and the waste and pollution and diminishing quality of life we leave to our children. Perhaps this meltdown will serve as the wakeup call we have all been waiting for, a time to re-examine and make better.

by Nick van Nes (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 596 comments [150 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:18:05 AM

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Another way to look at it, Mary, is

this 'scandal' may prove to indict Bush and Rove and the Bush-league Justice Dept. Fitzgerald waited eight months to prosecute a crime constituting treason committed by some one in the Bush Admin.-- Here, no actual crime event has occurred, just a lot of (bugged by whose authority?) talk about committing a crime and the need for speed here easily outpaced the outing of a CIA secret agent.

This is more like "Rove bags another Governor" than "Cheney indicted for causing deaths of CIA agent's network". Plus we have the complication of the day after Gov. B. pulls state business from Bank of America, he is arrested. Weird and unexplainable coincidences happen to those who threaten the US Banking establishment. 

We have no money for wounded veterans living on the street homeless, but hundreds of billions for Bankers? No money for our own childrens' health? No money for school lunches? Does this create a cognitive dissonance ?Right. So this could well be an attempt at a weapon of mass distraction, rather that the miraculous return of the Bush Justice Dept. to pursuing Justice. I don't hear no Hosannas...And, as we know, nature abhors a vacuum.

by GLloyd Rowsey (104 articles, 65 quicklinks, 60 diaries, 828 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:03:33 PM

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Impeach 'em all!

It is fishy that Rod Blavojevich is being taken down, deserved though it may be.  And I speak as a strong supporter of Rich Whitney, the Green Party candidate, who got more than 10% of the vote in Illinois in 2006

http://www.whitneyforgov.org,

But, listening to the quotes from the wiretap, as spoken by P.Fitzgerald, I couldn't help but wonder what a wiretap of Hank Paulson, or Dick Cheney (much more bleeps there, I bet!) or Donald Rumsfield would sound like.

What about the discussions between Cheney and Rumsfield when the no bid contracts for the spoils of Iraq were being handed out?  Let's have wiretaps on all of our government officials.  It's called open government.  

After all, they have wiretaps on all of us. 

by wagelaborer (6 articles, 1 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 307 comments [34 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:09:01 PM

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whoops

The link didn't work.  Let me try again.

http://www.whitneyforgov.org 

by wagelaborer (6 articles, 1 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 307 comments [34 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:10:25 PM

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This adds up to lots of comments!

http://www.whitneyforgov.org/joomla/index.php

by wagelaborer (6 articles, 1 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 307 comments [34 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:13:39 PM

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We should be using impeachment

and any other tool at our disposal, special prosecutors, investigations, special commissions, trials, to deal with the political corruption in our federal, state and local governments wherever politicians are to be found.

And it is not the opaque 'government' that we need to address, although we do need to clean up the process of governance considerably. We need to deal with the politicians and their puppet masters accordingly. It is the people who are in the institutions of government we need to go after, then we fix the process. Electoral reforms including public financing would go a long way towards cleaning up the mess. And a recall referendum for wayward politicos. Then we would not necessarily have to suffer from arrogant, errant Governors or Presidents. To those I would add a national referendum to prevent such egregious rip offs such as the current bailout rubbish.

by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 675 comments [70 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:18:10 PM

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Use the Frost/Nixon movie to get Bush/Cheney Impeached

The movie Frost/Nixon will open across the Nation on Friday.

   Lets all work together to tie that in to the need for impeachment now.

Suppose ogranizations like United For Peace & Justice bring their 1,400 groups out on the street, just a few activists at a time at each showing of the movie at each theater with signs saying something like...

---------

Nixon was an amateur, Bush & Cheney are Real EVIL 

Call your Congressman 800-828-0498 SAY IMPEACH

--------- (keep the sign's  topic solely on impeachment & WMD Lies)

I think that if UFPJ members nationwide were to stand in the streets for impeachment and impeachment hearings Now! ... even at this late date,

It Would Be The Greatest Recruiting Tool and Growth Opportunity that UFPJ
is likely to see in the forseeable future, a huge recruiting opportunity, potential major growth, more political clout for other later battles.   And also a huge opportunity lost if they don't.   And there are those activists who are angry with them for ignoring impeachment.  This would put that anger to rest.

The movie Frost/Nixon opens Friday and should run for at least 4 weeks all around the country.  Isn't this an opportunity just perfect for the impeachment  and peace movements? 

Suppose UFPJ were to try to get their affiliated groups to stand outside every theater in the Nation for as long as the movie runs (at least until Jan 20th)... have at least one or two people at each entrance with harsh verbiage on signs.  On your signs tell moviegoers what to do, show B&C as much worse than Nixon. 

Wouldn't necessarily need a lot of people, just 2-3 at the start of eachshowing, then leaving and perhaps someone new showing up at the end of that showing/start of the next.  Perhaps being there for 30-60 minutes.  Try to limit activists exposure to the weather that way.  Maybe activists would just handle the one theater closest to their home?  A few activists in each community could cover a lot of showings.

I don't believe anyone who really cares about the Consitution,  cares who or what group gets the credit, only that both impeachment hearings now and hopefully prosecution later, does occur.  I know we will work with anyone on it.  Let me know what we can do to work with you on this type of project.

 We can still make impeachment happen but this may be our last chance. Lets keep a couple of protesters at every showing at all theaters all across the Nation from Friday through Jan 20th. 

 We will be able to reach hundreds of thousand of voters who are coming to see a movie about abuse of power, removal from office and impeachment.

  These moviegoers are sympathetic to impeachment or they wouldn't be attending the movie.  Use that.

 This is a golden opportunity.  Don't waste it.

John H Kennedy, Denver, CO
Impeach Colorado Coalition

Email:   protestinthestreet@yahoo.com

..

 

by John H Kennedy (12 articles, 7 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 281 comments [19 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:58:33 PM

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Impeach? Who ya gonna call? Ghost Busters?

Raging against Bush and Cheney at this point in time will in no way exonerate "Blag, the Informer" (hopefullyl--I can dream, can't I?).  The Illinois governor should do the right thing and quietly resign, with regrets.

He should also name names--big and small...maybe he is the canary in the coal mine who warns of coming doom if the politicial process is not cleansed of  toxic fumes or cracks in the foundation.

Haven't we suffered long enough from graft and corruption?  No American institution is living up to our ideals.  Start at the top; as Molly Ivins once pointed out, "The fish rots from the head down."  But if things go according to history, Barack will not be tarnished; he will take the oath of office and do all that splendid preening for the cameras, as is his forte.  Not to worry; no one is going to get impeached in the near future.  Takes too long and we have things to do, places to go,  countries to overrun.  Oil to pump.

 

by Marilyn Frith (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 194 comments) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:22:37 PM

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Reply: Amen, Marilyn.

And as martin mentioned: nature abhors a vacuum.  I might add: you give a boob-brain enough rope, he'll hang himself. 

Doubtless the media has already rushed in.  

But how're the workers doing over at the GM outlet factory?

by GLloyd Rowsey (104 articles, 65 quicklinks, 60 diaries, 828 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:45:56 AM

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Bush means congress?

If Bush needs impeachment then congress would have to join in. Since they ordered him.

Of course my opinion of most of the politicians now are worthy of impeachment. Both Democrats and Republicans in House and Senate.

by charley danielson (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:02:19 PM

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If Gov. Rod Blagojevich deserves impeachment, so

DOES Pres. Bush too

We can say all is said and done. It's over. There won't be impeachment. But, we know our demand for impeachment is righteous and we must not silence our calls. Those calls (although idealistic and unlikely to be heeded now) will make it possible for momentum to be maintained and for the impeachment movement to become the prosecution movement.

If we stop calling for impeachment, then we might see it used against us when we begin to press for prosecution of Bush and Cheney. It may affect our fight against pardons.

Actually, this article should be titled, "If Gov. Rod Blagojevich deserves impeachment, than Bush, Cheney, and others do not deserve pardons."

by Kevin Gosztola (302 articles, 146 quicklinks, 81 diaries, 1082 comments [77 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:03:45 PM

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Reply: I couldn't agree more, Kevin.

So I'm still wearing my black "Save the Bill of Rights - ImpeachBush.Org" t-shirt when I take walks and hill-climbs and jogs around my little town in northern California.

by GLloyd Rowsey (104 articles, 65 quicklinks, 60 diaries, 828 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:58:11 AM

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"Rove bags another Governor"

About a correct as correct gets.

 

Fitzgerald is nothing more than a hatchet man and tool for his mob bosses.

 

He violated the constitution and the governors rights to procedural due process of law when he failed to have a Grand Jury properly indict the governor.

Bogus paperwork. 

 

He and his gang are hoping to now use the mighty 'Wurlitzer' of the press and lame stream media to hoot and holler loud enough to scare him out of office. 

by Patrick (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 519 comments [22 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:22:36 PM

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Selling the Senate seat?

That is impeachable.

The statement about yellow cake, remember that Bush prefaced it with "British Intelligence says that..."

That agency has stood by that statement. And it shows there was an attempt (not successful) to buy yellow cake.

There will be no Bush/ Cheney impeachment, and there will be no trial.

by Scott (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 744 comments [30 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:25:52 PM

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Gee, it's nice to post a comment and see others jump in too.

But I have to admit.  "My" comment above was lifted directly from a comment (on the same topic) by martinweiss to virtually an identical article which I posted several hours earlier than Mary posted hers.

Maybe I need to be as quick-writing and analysing as martin?  Maybe I need a brain that's twent-five years younger.  Hmmmm?  No, I don't think so.  I'm just proud of having been able to lift martin's OEN comment and transpose it successfully.

GLloyd Rowsey

by GLloyd Rowsey (104 articles, 65 quicklinks, 60 diaries, 828 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:21:20 AM

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Reply: Oh, I missed the point completely, huh?

No one at OEN refrains from commenting on pieces or comments by "Glloyd Rowsey" - it's just that when he's writing his own stuff, he's a total idiot, or he takes you out of "your comfort zone" (which is worse).  And....

Lord, he should try to write more like martinweiss.

Come on Rowsey, you stupid sh*t.  Get with it!

by GLloyd Rowsey (104 articles, 65 quicklinks, 60 diaries, 828 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:18:03 PM

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Absolutely

The Governor was a small time crook. Just like all of the congressman and senators. But the big time crooks are the ones that have taken trillions from the American people. The Banksters that control the government and congress are the big time crooks that no one will touch. Instead, it is all let's pretend in the land of make believe.

by Grant Lawrence (97 articles, 100 quicklinks, 45 diaries, 296 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:03:24 PM

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