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Getting ready to hold Obama's feet to the fire.

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With an Obama victory, progressives have a mandate and responsibility to aggressively envision and describe, outline and propose positive new directions for our culture, nation and world.

Unless the twentyfirst century's greatest theft happens, Obama will be president on November 5th. 

That's when we progressives must hit the gas pedal and drop into overdrive, doing all we can to push him, his appointments and policies to the left. You can be sure, those in the faux middle and on the right have been preparing, gearing up to do all they can o push him to the right. Some of these efforts have already seen the light of day. 

If you thought you needed OEN before, under Bush, when things were at their worst, well, OEN and the progressive media will be needed more now than ever. We've built a visibility and influence that gives us a voice and we intend to use it to do all we can to persuade, convince and push Obama and the 111th congress towards more progressive ways of thinking. 

Whether you voted for Obama, Nader, McKinney, Barr or if you refused to vote, once the election is over, it is time to jump on the opportunity. One thing is true. Obama is the most liberal president elected in decades, possibly in history. Only time will tell.

One problem is that power curve, or the eighty twenty rule, which, in reality is more like the one-ninetynine rule-- one percent of the people do ninetyninepercent of the activism. 

We at OEN are doing all we can to empower a change in those numbers. Just imagine, If we double them, from less than 1% being active on the site to two percent or three percent-- not that big a jump, we are actually making a huge increase in what gets done. Can you get on board? Start with some easy, simple steps. Take your participation to the next level. Just a reader, sign up as a member. Already a member, then post a comment or add a quicklink. Already posting comments? Then post a diary or submit an article. Already posting diaries and comments, then volunteer to be an editor or transcriber or think of other ways you can help. 

Now, those are ways you can help OEN make a bigger difference. But the same applies to going to the next level in your activism. Do some research. Learn about political activism-- all the ways you can become involved and actually take steps to do something, or something more. Learn about community organizing, which is, in many ways different from political activism. 

Find out who the staffers are for your senators and your member of the house. Ask for their numbers and emails and keep a record of them.

Dig up all you can on local advocacy organizations. Make contacts with other activists in the area. Build bridges and coalitions. Remember that the big changes in this world get made by one percent of us, or less. That gives YOU a lot of power. Connect with a few other change makers and you can make huge changes. Who would have believed, not too long ago, that a black man would become president of the United States?  We can make big changes happen. The election of Obama is just he beginning. 

Be assured, there will be huge lashes back against this. People will probably die. Almost everyone I talk to fears for Obama's life. The existing powers will not passively accept the changes that have evolved. We are moving from a top down to bottom up culture. This is a huge revolution which the top down power holders will fight with everything they've got. 

In the coming months, we need progressive voices expressing positive visions of what a move to the left will look like in all facets and areas of government and culture. We need to see these ideas and visions flower in great multitudes.  This is a call and invitation for you to express your visions. 

You can do it by posting comments on this article or you can post your own diaries, articles and polls. 

 

Rob Kall is executive editor, publisher and site architect of OpEdNews.com, President of Futurehealth, Inc, more...)
 

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BIG MISTAKE!!

BIG MISTAKE...

Look I know the democrats and progessive have been held in prison for the past 8 years with George Bush, and we want to push forward a totally progressive agenda, but I think progressives bombarding Obama with LIBERAL, LEFT agendas coming out of the gate is a BAD MOVE!!..Why? BILL CLINTON!!!! I am a progressive, democrat, leftist, whatever you want to call it and I think that we all want democratic policies put in place, but we have to approach this carefully without alienating half of the country especially Independents.. And I think that EVERYBODY including the RIGHTWINGNUTS need to come to the CENTRE!!. We cannot just appeal to one part of the country because it will alienate everyone else. That is the mistake Bill Clinton made when he was elected and that is why we saw a a bloodbath 2 years later in 94 when the republicans took control of both governments. That is the mistake GEORGE BUSH made these last 8 years by alienating the democrats and only appealing to his base which is why they are about to see a tsunami on tuesday. Bararck is a pragmatist who is going to have a bipartisan administration. He doesn't care about ideology but common sense solutions to problems. He is not going to make the same mistake that prior administration have made that has divided this nation and has cost ALL OF US money, jobs, etc. Like he said this isn't a liberal america or conservative america but UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. ALL OF US should have a voice to make common sense solutions to today's problems and issues. As a liberal I want him to have a bipartisian agenda that everyone has a voice including republicans. I am willing to unite this country and extend a hand to republicans. We cannot solve problems divided and until RightWINGNUTS and Progressive understand that, they both are going to be frustrated with Obama. We can't go down that road again because Obama says he wants a different type of politics and different type of washington.

He has already hinted that he wants republicans on his administration. l have read that Obama wants republican Chuck Hagel and one of the most conservative repubicans in the senate Dick Lugar in his administartion. Also he wants advice from Moderate republican Colin Powell. He doesn't care about ideology but intellectual folks aroud him. If Barack goes too far left, it will doom his candacy and future elections.

by Wynona Ely (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:24:48 AM

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Reply: You may be right

What's important is not ideology but values, policies and actions. If Obama really does deal with the economic crisis from the Bottom up, we'll be heading in the right direction, for example.

by Rob Kall (953 articles, 4178 quicklinks, 374 diaries, 2087 comments [45 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:33:42 AM

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Reply: Oh NO she's NOT

Clinton and the other Neo-Liberals (corporate shills all) are just waiting to retake their Tweedle Dum role. Emanuel, Rubin etc etc are the sell-out wing of the Democratic Party. They've ruled it for years, and they won't let go easily.

All the talk about "center" just means caving in to the Imperial Right- their wars, their oligarchy, free-trade predation, their nasty fearmongering. That way is disaster.

by Laudyms (0 articles, 1142 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 708 comments [138 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:59:46 PM

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Reply: No, not a Big Mistake. Mistake is backing off from Winning.

The Big Mistake would be backing off from Winning Justice, and DEMANDING Justice.  Through Obama, through immediate appointment of his DoJ Attorney General, and thus through the Dept.of Justice announcing immediate investigations, subpoenas, indictments, and prosecutions.  Even of residual (and so sitting, still unreplaced) bureaucrats in Departments and vestiges from Bushbutchery.  IMMEDIATELY!  Eradicate rightwing extremism sentiments, arrest budding totalitarians.  Fk with the fascists' so fast their heads spin around blaming each other trying to save themselves.

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Wynona Ely, there is a significant misreading, or attempted 'revising' of history, which I strongly contradict.  This:

"... the mistake Bill Clinton made when he was elected and that is why we saw" (things we saw).

Clinton did NOT make a mistake.  Unless being decent and forgiving of offenses against him, and absorbing full-on body-blows, NOT ATTACKING fast enough is a 'mistake.'

 Here's the true historic context:

Media Matters: The Right's "bias" charade, by Jamison Foser, Oct 31, 2008

 ... the absolutely brutal media coverage Clinton received almost immediately upon his election.

How brutal? How quickly? The Los Angeles Times explained in a 1993 look back at the earliest days of the Clinton presidency:

Twelve days after President Clinton took office -- with only 1,448 days left in his term -- Sam Donaldson of ABC News was on a weekend talk show, saying, "This week we can talk about, 'Is the presidency over?' "

That same day, a Page 1 story in the Los Angeles Times warned, "The President must tighten his grip or risk disaster."

Later that week, a Page 1 story in the New York Times said, "The President desperately needs a victory, as soon as possible."

And that was barely six months in to Clinton's first term. Sure, by then reporters had suggested Clinton's presidency was over before it reached the end of its second week and inaccurately obsessed over his Air Force One haircut. But they were just getting started; the wall-to-wall coverage of Whitewater and countless other trumped-up faux scandals was still to come.

But no matter how hostile, how relentlessly negative, how scandal-obsessed the media were in their coverage of Clinton, conservatives kept right on going with their complaints of 'liberal bias.' ...

The Media Matters for America documentary website of impeccable conduct, scholarly credentialed and highly esteemed, began in the atoning reformation of David Brock.  Brock was the eager-to-please ambitious young writer who Richard Mellon Scaife paid million$ to Make. Stuff. Up. about Clinton.  Brock almost single-handedly created the the 'supporting' LIES feeding the extreme frenzied rightwing Republican assault on Clinton and devastation of democracy.

The story: 

(In) The American Spectator, Brock ... published a story about Bill Clinton's time as governor of Arkansas that made accusations that bred Troopergate.  Among other things, the story contained the first printed reference to Paula Jones ....

Three years later, (1996) Brock surprised conservatives by publishing a somewhat sympathetic biography of Hillary Clinton ....

In July 1997, Brock published a confessional piece in Esquire magazine titled "Confessions of a Right-Wing Hit Man", in which he recanted much of what he said in his two best-known American Spectator articles and criticized his own reporting methods. ... he said, "I... want out. David Brock the Road Warrior of the Right is dead."

Writing again for Esquire in April 1998, Brock apologized to Clinton for his contributions to Troopergate, calling it simply part of an anti-Clinton crusade.  He told a more detailed story of his time inside the right wing in his 2001 memoir, Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative, in which he settled old scores and provided inside details about the Arkansas Project's efforts to bring down Clinton. Later, he also apologized to Anita Hill.

In Blinded by the Right (2002), Brock said that he had reached a turning point — he had thoroughly examined charges against the Clintons, could not find any evidence of wrongdoing, and did not want to make any more misleading claims. Brock further said that his former friends in right-wing politics shunned him (writing eye-witness Truth).

Brock directly addressed the right-wing "machine" in his 2004 book, The Republican Noise Machine, in which he detailed an alleged interconnected, concerted effort to raise the profile of conservative opinions in the press through false accusations of 'liberal media bias', dishonest and highly-partisan columnists, partisan news organizations and academic studies, and other methods.

Dishonest LIAR columnists.  Dishonest LIAR news.  Dishonest LIAR studies.

So much -- hundreds of millions of dollars -- paid propaganda 'catapulted' in the mass-mind media, from 1993 to now; so much that many people believe the LIARS false history, and so much that the LIARS destroyed the now-defunct 'mainstream' media.  Wynona, it sounds to me like you still believe the LIARS false history.

Every day, Media Matters (dot ORG) lists and documents the media LIARS.  It is important to follow the alert reporting, and get a sense of the immense scale of LIARS poisoning the mass-mind media.  In order to recover from the mental disease and fear(-faked) paranoia, caused by listening and believing TV, primarily.

I can personally attest this, regarding the fascist Bushbutcher attack on America, and on Clinton immediately upon his election.  (Really, it was less Clinton being elected and more an issue of Daddy Bushbutcher being unelected, in some parallels with this year -- Obama Shmobama is almost arbitrary, interchangeable with any other milquetoast-liberal, mediocre, half-Democrat, where the full flood of voters and votes is focussed entirely on getting that insane madman idiot OUT OF our White House, and IN TO PRISON.)  Nov. 4, 1992, the morning after Clinton's election, Rash Lamebrain (Limbaugh) broadcast coast-to-coast, "Bill Clinton does not deserve to be president.  Somebody ought to just go shoot ... oh, nevermind, I could get in trouble for what I'm thinking." (Said in the last 5 secs of Lamebrain's 2nd hour, over the outro theme music for the top-of-the-hour spots and news break.)

For that, Lamebrain must go to prison.  (Broadcast) murder threats have  no statute of limitation.  The criminal conviction of Lamebrain is an open-and-shut case -- simply exhibit the tape recording played in Court.  Prosecute Lamebrain and all the dittomedia hate-talk lamebrains NOWIMMEDIATELY as Obama is inaugurated and appoints a justifiable and judicious Attorney General ... I'm thinking Vincent Bugliosi ... or Eliot Spitzer.

The media is already hyping the story and deliberately inciting irrational unstable persons about assassination, the 'A'-word.  The Highest Priority of IMMEDIATE Business for an Obama Administration is the criminal prosecutions of massmedia 'celebrities' for aiding the enemy (domestic rightwing terrorists) and war crimes incitements FALSELY shouting 'Fire!' in a crowded Theatre, (where 'fire' means "pull the trigger" and 'theatre (of war)' means Iraq where WMDs were known FALSE).  Just like Goebbels and his underling copycat dittoheads faced Nuremberg Trials for war crimes committed by them in their media-made false propaganda.

Hit the ground running DIRECTLY AT the radical rightwing extremist 'Republicans' -- those haters of democracy, those haters of America -- and especially the talking-head puppet-media figures first, behind whom the traitors and treason is harbored and hidden.  Day 1:  Perp walk O'Reilly.

In a parallel 'pincer' front, as the media are being cleaned out and cleared up,  be bringing the charges and indictments against bureaucrats and officials, elected and appointed during, and part of, the Bushbutchery atrocity.  And see those news stories truthfully reported.

Too many citizens are still believing the false 20-year history of fraudulent media 'news.'  Like, too many citizens are still dithering about and debilitating our putting in place IMMEDIATELY the policies and practices to remedy global warming ... since the fraudulent media 'news' LIARS go on posing conflict and uncertainty about Science.

 

 

 

by meremark (1 articles, 3 quicklinks, 30 diaries, 572 comments [22 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:35:15 AM

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Obamas feet

Knowing wll I've read from the OpEdNews, YOU have pushed for Obama just as all other media has.  Evidently you have no American patriotism.  If this campaigning had been equally split by YOU, we would not have this much discontent with the election coming in the next three days.  For a TV network or newspapers ALL cramming Obama down our throats, it has been a real MESS of campaigning.

by Margaret Denson (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 25 comments) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:25:37 AM

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Reply: Well, I like your comment color combination...

otherwise, I think your comment is ridiculous. The world is moving away from the toxic, stupid, antiamerican, antidemocratic theocratic corporatist policies of the bush andministration and its extremist right wing idiocracy. You don't "DO" balance when the world is on fire.

by Rob Kall (953 articles, 4178 quicklinks, 374 diaries, 2087 comments [45 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:31:11 AM

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Reply: I'm ready...

I'm a newbie to OEN so cut me a little slack here, okay?  I've never really been involved in the political arena.  In the past, when (and if) I voted, my decisions were made from watching snippets on TV or talking with my friends.  I'm so happy we have the internet because I've done more research and watched more cable news during the past few years than ever before.

When I hear Obama give the keynote address back in '04, I said, 'Who IS that?  Damn...if he were running for President, he'd get my vote!!'  And here it is four-years later and in a few days, he'll hopefully become my President.

A lot has changed for me.  I didn't know who I was, what I really wanted, what I believed.  I still have a long way to go but this is the first time in my life where I've come to the point when I want to become more...I want to have a passion about something and do something to make a real difference for people.

Living in AZ, I early voted for the Obama/Biden ticket.  Yes, Obama is very liberal and I haven't reached that point as yet and don't know if I ever will.  But Obama is an intelligent man...and I truly believe he wants to help all Americans regardless of their political belief.  He can still maintain his liberalism but I think he's going to become more of a centrist.  He really wants his administration to be bipartisan.  The best way to find the answer to problems is not to surround yourself with people who're going to believe what you believe and tell you what they think you want to hear.  You need opinions/ideas from the other side also...and then reach an decision, based on either a true meeting of the minds or sometimes a compromise.  Obama, as a centrist, will do that.  I know he'll be a great president but with all the issues in the nation and the world, it's going to be difficult.

Sometimes change is difficult and people resist it.  Resistance keeps people wallowing in their misery rather than take a step forward into the unknown.  I'm ready for the unknown. I'm ready for Obama as MY president.

by Linda Maria Fernandez (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 11 comments) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:17:12 PM

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Reply: Yup, I'll cut you some slack, not much, but some ...

... because if you're calling Obama "liberal" you truly are new to political arena.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:59:18 AM

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Reply: Obama a liberal?

Geez, where you comin from? Bible belt, usa? Obama's no more a liberal than I'm a lake in the middle of the desert on a hot summer day! Nothing will change under his watch - we'll have more wars, more mic support, less medical help (god forbid free healthcare), and more spying on citizens. You call this left? This is mainstream corporate facism, with a hip look on it - black, educated, erudite, gifted speaker, and pawn for the multinationals. A perfect setup for those who haven't done their homework. He's a hollywood production, or maybe even bollywood?

by Cinderfella (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 248 comments [95 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:17:25 AM

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this defining moment

Mr. Obama speaks well, but when he's actually there amongst all the plutocrats whose to say how he will react. He seems centered and secure, but what about FISA? We'll see where his loyalty lies soon enough.

For the rest of us, yes, this is a defining moment as well. And this is not 1992. How we come together, engage ourselves, organize and support our communities and local commerce, and treat ourselves and each other will difine these times as much as the Obama presidency.

If it's still "always about the money", we still have much to do to restore the situation and repair our broken government. 

by Jim Prues (15 articles, 33 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 81 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:27:07 PM

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CORRECTION

Sad to say, regardless what happens on the 4th, we're gonna be stuck with inCurious George until 9:00 a.m., EST, January 20, 2009. Until that time and date, the victor Tuesday will be President Elect, not president. And the ONLY way there can be a "victor" is for Senator Obama to win. If McCain is declared the president elect, if Obama concedes, the United States and the entire world will be the losers.

Ed Tubbs 

 

by Ed Tubbs (235 articles, 1 quicklinks, 28 diaries, 76 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:51:30 PM

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Reply: Darn!

You beat me to it.  On November 5th, 2008, George W Bush will be our president.

by Dana Pico (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 194 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:27:19 PM

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Rob I agree

with Ms Ely and also that we need to be sure Obama keeps on course. I would guess he expects that of us. We all need to remember that he will step into a hell uv mess jan 20 and a lot will depend where this economy and world is at that time. I am going to continue to believe until proven otherwise. I think he is a good man---at 66 I am a bit old to be looking for heros but I choose to think that fate, karma, or whatever has brought this man to the forefront.

by virginius "gin" arnold (18 articles, 7 quicklinks, 47 diaries, 516 comments [22 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:28:35 PM

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Hold is feet

Hold is feet to the inferno is more like it...It's time we all grew a spine. Good call.

by Paul Donovan (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 12 comments) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:16:53 PM

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NO-ONE IN THE FOURTH ESTATE WILL HOLD OBAMA ACCOUNTABLE

There is something discomforting about someone appropriating the power of the Presidency with so little experience and obscure intent, yet it is his appearance of “detachment,” sitting  imperious atop the food-chain, that is creating such broad based support amongst those feeling disenfranchised. 

 

Withe media in his bag, and Congress on his side, who will be around to hold him accountable?  America's financial problems will be blamed on Republicans for  years, while the new White House remains impotent to solve any of the serious problems. 

by James Raider (41 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments [2 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:38:32 PM

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Reply: Which 4ht estate

New Yokr Times, Wall Street Journal, Forbes, CNN, Fox, PBS, NPR, or how about Link----look it up because I bet you have never heard of it. I see nothing in your post that has anything of value. We need solutions, people willing to work, not nay sayers who contribute nothing to the conversation.

by virginius "gin" arnold (18 articles, 7 quicklinks, 47 diaries, 516 comments [22 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:50:57 PM

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Reply: ?

... such this comment?

by James Raider (41 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments [2 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:52:54 PM

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our feet to tfire to get the right things done.

As hopeful as I want to be, I can't help but think there will be other interests putting his feet to the fire. Other interests that want to see war in afgan, see bankers get bailed out even more, see whatever elements of the constitution are left shredded away.  He has already given us clues about how he thinks about these. Take a look at his top campaign contributors - these are are the people who he will probably answer to first. 

The office of the president stopped being a real leadership role and started being a PR talking head position.   

I am willing to be wrong. But I think we have to stop counting on the government to do the right thing and take that job upon ourselves. 

by Shanghai Z (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:02:20 PM

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And on the flip side

I have long ago come to the conclusion that there is practically no difference between the two parties. Nancy Pelosi's IMMEDIATE statement after the elections of '06 that impeachment was off the table, just helped to prove my point. I'm not saying that there would be exactly the same government in January, 2009, regardless of who wins the election. What I am saying is that on all the important issues we'll see nearly identical results. One of them is called Bush III, and the other is called Bush Llight, but those who make the decisions for our country will also make damn sure that they are the only ones pulling the strings next year.

 I'd love to be wrong. Nothing would make me happier than to see a very radical shift in our domestic and foreign policies. However, those same policies haven't changed for over 100 years regardless of who was in the White House. I don't see how this will make much difference. The Dems and the progressives get to party for a few weeks, and talk big about all the changes there will be, but come the day after his inauguration, it will be business as usual.

Does anyone remember that Clinton PROMISED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE that he would reform health care. Well, after 8 years in office, he changed absolutely nothing. He still carpet bombed civilians in Serbia. He did send troops into Somalia for, apparently, no reason. The list goes on.

George Carlin said it right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0

What he says is exactly right.

by John Little (43 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 181 comments [18 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:35:06 PM

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How about just making sure he upholds Constitution?

With all the knives already sticking out of our backs I can't say I'm going to get all excited about Obama listening to us when he didn't give a damn about us before he got into power.

Hell, I'd be happy if he just started working within the framework and laws of the land. Maybe held some hearings? Held some people accountable.

But I'm not holding my breath. As I've mentioned, when he was courting our votes he still didn't show much respect for our wishes, so I don't know what kind of "holding his feet" to anything is going to do once he doesn't need our votes anymore?

About the only thing I can expect, judging from past performance, is that we all need to get bigger backs.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:54:22 AM

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Reply: Not bigger backs...

My dear mr m:
...flak jackets. Save our broadsides for something else. We know super 0 is a zero. Geez he caved in on everything, except being a good guy for his puppeteers. Stock up on food, water, and some personal protection. Bad times is gonna be worse times. Heck, the illuminati is subject to even higher powers. But we won't go there. That's stretching everyone's reality limits, at least the prepubescent ones. It's a cosmic world, if one really wants to tune in.

by Cinderfella (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 248 comments [95 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:29:48 AM

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What fire?

Greetings,

From Obama's voting record, which is the only concrete thing we can go on as to how he will govern, we see that it has been basically conservative or "PRESENT".  Where anyone can surmise that he is a liberal is way beyond me, or maybe, it is the writer's hope that Obama will change his spots and become a liberal the day he is sworn in, if he wins, that is.  The guy comes out of nowhere, falls into the Illinois Senate, gets pushed into the US Senate, and now is extremely close to being president;  someone has put a great deal of time and money into getting him where he is, and he (Obama) is far more likely to pay them off and listen to their concerns than he is ours.   Remember, the day of the bailout theft the calls to house members was running about 100 to 1 AGAINST the theft, but our congresspeople showed us who runs things, and it isn't US.  We may get peanuts from Obama, but the redistribution of wealth (the one Obama voted FOR) will continue under him, and FISA will remain in effect, and the army will still be here to help us out if we forget who runs things. 

This is no longer the country of FDR, JFK, and RFK.   Camelot is dead!!  The USA is being ground up and I don't see that anything we do, short of a true revolution or a ballot box revolt (and that won't happen as long as most people say "wait until next election"--you know, the one that never comes) electing a third party candidate.  Hold Obama's feet to the fire??  With what leverage do we use?

by Kellis R. Solomon (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 123 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:54:41 AM

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Before we keep Obama on course,...

we have to put him on course. If we want to hold his feet to the fire, we have to get him to where the fire is.

That means vote for the change you desire. Get out on Tuesday and bring a relative, a friend, a colleague, anyone who might need a ride to the polls; you know, everyone you ever knew, loved, smelt, felt, heard of, thought about, dreamt of, touched or stood next to down to the precinct to cast a vote for Obama.

Then we can steer him.

by John Sanchez Jr. (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 25 diaries, 1793 comments [148 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:11:15 AM

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I still do not think Obama will win

but I will vote for him. And I made three more people to vote for him.  But as for feet in the fire- make sure, folks that those who will bring him to power  are the ones rational people. The world  around us is pressing on the US to do just that. We should not  expect miracles. Neither should we expect goodness. The govts are there to prevent Hell, not to build Paradise. If Obama brings peace to our nation - that would be quite enough.

 

by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:48:00 AM

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"Getting ready to hold Obama's feet to the fire."

The best way to get ready, is to have a plan. How are you going to hold his feet to the fire? Which measures do you have in store to go about it?

by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 9:21:42 AM

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Reply: Scared of the "s" word as usual

This country is 100 years past due...We need a Socialist America, because right now we are 8 months pregnant with a fascist theocracy. We have no leadership anyone will really get behind due to every person on the left spectrum being terrified of the maniac crypto-fascists, or neo-conservatives.

 Most left-leaning parties are not effective at reaching working people, we don't have a unionized workforce, we have hardly any mainstream media exposure, and liberals would never dare endorse the "S" word. I think as the crisis deepens we can start by not being so polite to people who champion a hybrid economy. We live in the stage of monopoly-financial Capitalism as Monthly review correctly labels it – that means the system is too rapacious to ever learn to be made timid at this point.

by Paul Donovan (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 12 comments) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:37:29 PM

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DEFINE THE FIRE...

 

Rob,

      It is evident that there is little agreement on the source of the current economic problem facing the nation.  With so much confusion, and fingers pointing in opposite directions, NOTHING will get done.  Obama has no understanding of economics, and neither does McCain.  That doesn't mean that they can't appoint talent to help them, but what it does mean is that the individual elected on the basis of supposedly having a vision for the country, will have none as it pertains to the core of its foundation.

      Wishes and hope are wonderful ephemerally positive energies for a society to feel, nevertheless, 350 million need to pay the rent and feed themselves.   

      Pretending that the economic  fiasco facing the country is the result of Republican / Bush   agendas will only lead to more disastrous policies like the ones that created the mess through the past fifteen years.  It is incorrect that "laissez-faire" economics were to blame.  If anything, there was tremendous government and bureaucratic meddling to promulgate the process.   Granted, you can lay the stupidity of going into Iraq at the Bush doorstep. It was misguided, strategically vacuous, and insanely expensive.It also damaged credibility.   Overwhelming confidence in overpowering military technology created an arrogance that could only blind an already ideologically bent leadership.  This financial mess everyone is in, however, lies more at the feet of a Congress that looked the other way.   This was simply Humans acting Human, and some humans getting a little grease to "go along."    For example, check out the amount doled out to Congress by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac... to whom and how much.  That should give your percepts a tweak.  Anyone pretending that these amounts were of little consequence, is afraid of what such pay-offs really mean.

HOWEVER THIS PAIN IS PAINTED OR PRESENTED, TAXPAYERS WILL FOOT THE BILL

Billions were made through this bubble, and there is plenty of blame to be spread around, however, where will the magic come from to REALLY solve this mess?

 

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/10/leadership-missing-in-action-dont-blame.html

 

 

 

 

by James Raider (41 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments [2 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:59:02 PM

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Obama

Obama is as liberal as Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin.

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 888 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:23:14 PM

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Obama

Obama is as liberal as Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin.

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 888 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:23:15 PM

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