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Gaza and Tijuana; What if Rocket Bombs Were Launched from Mexico Into California

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This started as a comment on Kevin Gosztola's article.

As I monitored the report that Hamas had ended the truce with Israel and  of rocket bombs  being fired into Israel, I was saddened, knowing the Israelis would not tolerate this. Sure enough, the call for a response was huge, just as it would be in any nation.

Just imagine if this went on for a week, with over 80 rockets fired from mexico into southern California.

The question in congress would be whether we should nuke Tijuana or just use a hail of 5,000 pound bunker busters. Sure there would be people saying "but the rockets didn't kill anyone."   And others would say, "this is a conspiracy to blame the Mexicans. American black ops troops fired them from Mexico."

Most likely, Tijuana would be turned into a ghost town within days of such rocket attacks. Bush OR Obama would not wait nearly as long as the Israelis did to respond. And they would not tolerate an single rocket firing without exacting a massive toll.

To suggest that Hamas has the right to fire rockets into Israel as Freedom Fighters is really misguided.

To suggest that Israel is justified in killing all of those people is also wrong.

Yet, Hamas, as the ruling party, is responsible for what happens on its territory, including rocket firings. They did declare the end to the truce. The people suggesting that US or Israeli troops or agents fired the rockets are forgetting that Hamas declared an end to the truce. I would not be surprised to see the same commenters deny the holocaust. Do you?

I think J-Street's spokesperson has some good ideas

Statement by Jeremy Ben-Ami, Executive Director of J Street, on Israeli Airstrikes in Gaza

Meanwhile, it's interesting how the anti-semites come out of the woodwork when Israel does anything. As soon as you blame JEWS or "the Jewish People"  instead of Israeli politicians, you become an anti-semite, in my book. Might as well blame all Christians for attacking Iraq, with that kind of bigoted thinking.

 Israel's response is stupid, but probably the same that ANY nation would take--  ANY, if rocket bombs were fired into it from another nation. 

Haters who polarize the situation blaming JEWS instead of seeking solutions only make things worse. Justifying violence on either side only makes things worse. We need to learn from Ghandi and MLK.  How can peace loving-Israelis and friends of Israel come up with solutions that don't include violence, especially when they are faced with violence?

 

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Wrong comparison! by Edip Yuksel on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:45:17 AM
Actually, I don't think Israel is occupying Gaza. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:05:16 AM
Actually by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:09:58 PM
picture by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:42:55 PM
And? by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:57:26 PM
AND... by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:08:33 PM
AND... by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:08:39 PM
I made no inference to what you are talking about by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:16:48 PM
And... by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:35:15 PM
Well, your entry was, in the structure of this website... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:17:31 PM
Wow by pft on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:32:08 PM
There weren't, nor were there many Gestapo agents in by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:50:25 PM
Yes by pft on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:09:00 PM
Why does Israel have a "right to exist" as apartheid state? by Aaron Aarons on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:51:03 AM
Profound by Edip Yuksel on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:37:04 AM
Mixing two issues... by Steven Leser on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:54:42 AM
Edip Yuksel commented firstest with the mostest. Rob. by GLloyd Rowsey on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:40:29 PM
Racism by Edip Yuksel on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:49:11 AM
Would this make me anti-Semite? by sameh abdelaziz on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:58:52 AM
Agreed, and I pointed this out above... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:14:37 AM
It is simple! by sameh abdelaziz on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:35:34 AM
LOL! by Harold Smith on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:15:43 AM
LOL yourself, and in my example... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:25:03 AM
Get Real! by Harold Smith on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:52:18 PM
None of what you wrote alters the truth of my point by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:07:59 PM
alters on the altar by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:51:11 PM
And? Did David complain about the result? by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:54:59 PM
And And And??? by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:15:38 PM
anti-semite? by Rob Kall on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:04:21 PM
ROB by WML on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:39:00 PM
Not a Great Analogy by Mac McKinney on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:51:30 AM
MLK Trumps Evil Every Time by Jason Paz on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:54:40 PM
Looking Deeper by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:11:34 PM
As we did with the Mujahedeen some of who morphed into by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:25:53 PM
At last... by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:54:03 PM
Re: Not a Great Analogy by Munich on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:22:04 PM
Powerful Video by Mac McKinney on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:37:35 PM
And I stand by that statement. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:28:51 PM
Well Steve by Mac McKinney on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:33:47 PM
Gandhi believed his methods could have defeated Hitler... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:51:16 PM
The Gandhian Approach: JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE by Mac McKinney on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:08:19 PM
Thank you for sharing this with us! by sameh abdelaziz on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:46:49 PM
YOU have never seen???? by Tony Duncan on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:58:10 PM
Re: And I stand by that statement." by Munich on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:40:43 PM
Glad I made you happy! by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:46:31 PM
The more death and disaster, the more profit by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:00:22 PM
I am not sure that is at play here, if it is ever by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:43:36 PM
If Ever... by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:03:46 PM
Beliefs or doubts Re: Things I have "Never attended to" by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:15:53 PM
should you go on? by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:38:32 PM
Wonderful, in that case... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:12:39 PM
Rob, by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:55:39 PM
Keeping the pump primed by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:50:06 PM
Is your support of the Palestinians one sided? by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:16:23 PM
What support of the Palestinians? by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:28:09 PM
Also, please define how this attack is a war crime. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:21:12 PM
School children killed by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:51:35 PM
That anecdote is not evidence of targeting civilians by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:57:17 PM
No maps yet, will this suffice? by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:12:57 PM
Nope. If you read the rest of that article by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:15:59 PM
War Crimes by Aurora on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:59:33 PM
See my above response. There is no evidence that this has by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:02:42 PM
Yes, there is evidence by Aurora on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:20:22 PM
Police = local security infrastructure by Steven Leser on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:07:06 AM
Thanks for your replies by Aurora on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 1:48:25 AM
Finally, (sorry for three seperate responses) by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:34:56 PM
Sibel Edmonds and arms dealing by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:16:37 PM
the anticpated reaction: SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER by bucketslogg on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:04:44 PM
I think we know what we'd do by Sandy Sand on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:39:05 PM
Not all Israelies are out for blood. Why are you? by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:03:48 PM
Bottle Rockets by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:06:20 PM
Comment by Kellis R. Solomon on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:23:04 PM
lies and damned lies by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:38:02 PM
After due consideration, by richard on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:46:01 PM
Lies? by Kellis R. Solomon on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:19:45 PM
brash language... by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:59:55 PM
Gibberish by David Hastings on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:08:53 PM
And there still has never been a country called Palestine... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:29:37 PM
State versus Human rights by Edip Yuksel on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:12:45 PM
I am not sure I disagree with what you are saying, but... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:19:58 PM
I got educated regarding Modern Palestine, Steven, by GLloyd Rowsey on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:43:03 AM
to Hastings the antisemite by Rob Kall on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:15:37 PM
I'm insulted, Rob, by your insinuation that... by Linda Milazzo on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:39:55 AM
Kill, Kill, Kill by Mac McKinney on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:29:42 PM
The more death and disaster, the more profit by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:46:03 PM
@ csnet by Comfortable on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:14:12 PM
Cui Bono? by Comfortable on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:05:03 PM
Sometimes cui bono makes sense. Not here. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:16:37 PM
conspiracy denial by David Salaam Goldstein on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:35:47 PM
Appearances and denial by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:59:18 PM
assertions .. beliefs... by richard on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:55:12 PM
assertions .. beliefs... by richard on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:08:13 PM
..and your evidence would be?? by Comfortable on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:33:01 AM
The wisest thing Rob said: by Bob Kincaid on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:07:31 PM
Acting like a Ghandi? by Edip Yuksel on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:49:08 PM
An interesting interview by Edip Yuksel on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:50:40 PM
Absolutely right. This is over in 12-18 months if the by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:18:01 PM
Hi Alice! by David Hastings on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:28:26 PM
Exactly what many said to Gandhi in the beginning... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:34:20 PM
It Is Not Jews To Blame, It Is Zionism by aberamsay on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:25:43 PM
Agreed, ramsheyi... by Cinderfella on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:50:03 PM
Texas.... by rini920 on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:14:43 PM
Frame of reference by Cinderfella on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:14:06 PM
So Hitler was a Zionist now? ROFLMFAO... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:20:07 PM
Pro Israel? by Eileen Dannemann on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:58:16 PM
Invitation... by rini920 on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:40:31 PM
How 'bout the three of us by William Whitten on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:47:19 PM
It's Tijuana. And I am not sure about this comparison... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:55:17 PM
You're correct, and oddly enough by David Hastings on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:47:37 PM
People can call themselves any offensive term they want by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:05:38 PM
Pro and con... by kibitzer2 on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:14:37 PM
Responding to multiple commenters who have asserted that by GLloyd Rowsey on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:15:20 PM
This justification for slaughter is sad coming from you, Rob by Kathlyn Stone on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:45:11 PM
whoah! where did I say that. by Rob Kall on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:32:17 PM
victims at the bottom of the power game by Comfortable on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:47:30 AM
Thanks. I do appreciate the open discourse we have here by Kathlyn Stone on Wednesday, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:11:40 PM
Sad story by Bill Samuel on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:49:14 PM
Pro Israeli bias by Jay Hubbell on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:39:17 PM
By what authority? The UN. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:07:04 PM
Never Seen Evidence of Gandhian Approach in Palestine? by Mac McKinney on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:28:27 PM
You misunderstand me. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:43:46 PM
Invaluable, Mac. by GLloyd Rowsey on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:35:17 PM
Sorry but you are dead wrong, Rob. by Nathan Nahm on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:36:48 PM
I find this idea of a measured response funny. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:51:29 PM
Also, you are making an assumption that... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:39:00 PM
Like this one? by Aurora on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:23:59 PM
A scientific laboratory was targeted... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:10:50 PM
Reporters have been banned for 2 weeks + by Aurora on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:33:08 PM
How about any of these 3000 or so? by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:12:57 PM
"How about any of these 3000 or so?" by Aurora on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:46:57 PM
Then why are you making assertions of war crimes? by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:50:48 PM
The point is this: by Aurora on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:25:38 PM
There is some fairly compelling audio and video here: by Aurora on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:32:47 PM
not advocating by Rob Kall on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:53:06 PM
Yes, Rob. by GLloyd Rowsey on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:59:35 AM
What do you suggest? by Davaru on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:06:56 PM
Give them what they say that they want. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:24:04 PM
Exactly by Edip Yuksel on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:51:02 PM
Steven Leser - Gandhian approach by Davaru on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:26:42 PM
The Court Jester, Me ? Then How About You ? by aberamsay on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:45:10 PM
nazis were marionettes for the Jews? by Rob Kall on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:08:02 PM
Jews And Zionists Are Two Different Separate Things by aberamsay on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:26:02 PM
You wrote: by Rob Kall on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:43:56 PM
How do you type... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:51:26 PM
What Is ANTISEMITISM ? by aberamsay on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:36:30 PM
Why by pft on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:33:44 PM
Ah yes, I am intolerably cruel. LOL! by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:31:24 PM
P.S., when you are accusing me of being a Zionist gatekeeper by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:48:02 PM
The conflict here reflects 2 different belief systems, where by Richard Mynick on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:44:02 PM
I doubt Rob is brainwashed by the US press on this... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:40:41 PM
Great summation, Richard. by GLloyd Rowsey on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 8:09:38 AM
And if I may add, Richard, by richard on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:56:16 PM
I provided a link to a map that showed all what you just by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:24:13 PM
you misunderstood....as is your want. by richard on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:05:03 AM
Analogy by pft on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:56:58 PM
Or maybe by Rob Kall on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:24:30 PM
Self sustaining paranoia of those predisposed to violence by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:55:07 PM
The "MISQUOTE" by aberamsay on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:43:25 PM
You're "Baffled" by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:00:00 PM
So Bitter To Be Unmasked by aberamsay on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:12:29 PM
Yes! by Steven Leser on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:22:35 PM
Regarding Steve by Edip Yuksel on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:30:19 AM
Palestanians are the Rodney King of Jew-o-fascists by Edip Yuksel on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:59:12 PM
sad horrible mess by robert braunstein on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:34:57 PM
Beatiful words by Edip Yuksel on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:03:17 AM
Only pawns in their game by csnet on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:55:36 PM
Realpolitik by reasonableperson on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:39:38 AM
We need to learn from Ghandi and MLK by John Bessa on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:24:14 PM
Is Tijuana full of starving California refugees under siege? by Ruth Wangerin on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:43:03 PM
fwd:message from Hanna, friend of Anna (who is quoted above) by karmacounselor on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:46:37 AM