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June 8, 2008 at 17:38:42
Failed Conservative Values: Aris Harmon on Fear and Power by Edwin Rutsch Page 1 of 2 page(s) |
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I interviewed Aris Harmon about the failure of conservative values. He said conservatives can be very nice people but they try to maintain the status quo and are afraid of change. For this reason, their fear of change is easily manipulated by other conservatives such as, Grover Norquist and Abramoff, whose sole value is power at any cost. He also sees the failure of critical thinking as the reason conservatives are so easily manipulated.
Failed Conservative Values: Aris Harmon on Fear and Power
Aris Harmon
My name is Aris Harmon. I live in East Palo Alto.
There’s a real disconnect, I think, between the values of the people who vote for conservatives, who identify themselves as conservatives, and many of them are very nice people. They are great neighbors. They are people whom you want in your community association.
But I think what those people value, I mean, they believe the way things were done, the way they grew up should be respected. But at the same time, because they are trying to defend that, it’s become very easy to frighten them that any new idea, anything that embraces somebody who looks a little different from them, who behaves a little different from them, it’s sort of a threat to the Republic.
And so we have sort of a different set of people who, as far as I can tell, the only thing they really value is power, and they’ve been very explicit about that, even. They’ve really talked about consolidated power for power’s sake -- the Grover Norquists, and the – I can’t think of his name. The one with the black hat who went to jail – Abramoff.
And those people have a value system that looks like every tin pot dictator in history, from Nero onward. And so I think really the failure is a failure of critical thinking and recognizing that just because somebody is other than you, that doesn’t make them the enemy. That they are not trying to destroy the sanctity of marriage.
Really, these people say “Oh, my gosh, they’re going to destroy the sanctity of marriage.” You know, two gay guys getting married and living in the house down the block, and you never even talk to them. I mean, is it affecting your marriage? It’s silly.
This sort of uncriticalness of it, where there was never any attention to the constraints imposed on them by the real world. So, when you have people who don’t believe in evolution, don’t believe in global warming, buy the idea that we can waltz into Iraq and they’ll be candy in the streets, and don’t stop to say “What is the history of Iraq, what are the cultures that are there that Saddam Hussein is repressing – the same as the Yugoslavian regime repressed the conflicts there.
There was really sort of these appalling – every time something bad happened in the Bush Administration “No one could have known”. And half the time, there was some big report in a magazine a month earlier. I mean Katrina, there had been a National Geographic special a year earlier about the impending destruction of New Orleans by a hurricane.
They are valuing power and sort of anything – it’s a similar thing what’s happened with Wall Street, where anything that’s short-term benefit to wealth, power, continuing whatever it is that benefits them right now.
And it’s like a two-year-old. You know – gobble up all those cookies right now and never mind the fact that you’ll be throwing up next week, or in an hour. It’s not so much a concrete thing for me. I mean I sort of see the progressive values as having a sense of wonder about the world. Of being interested and saying “the world is in fact stranger than we have imagined so far. Reality will always surprise, and you should be open to that. That’s okay. That the world is full of wonders”.
For the conservatives, it’s full of terrors. The conservatives see the world as this scary thing that they have to wall off at the borders. They see dragons to be afraid of, and we’re saying, “Why reptiles, that’s cool”.
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TRUE Conservatives
I often feel slapped in the face when someone speaks or writes negatively about "Conservatives", although I know they truly don't mean it. I am a TRUE Conservative, one who is fiscally conservative, small government, low taxes, inalienable rights, not at all like the pseudo-conservatives we see in Congress now, but rather a TRUE Conservative who feels that the federal government has absolutely no right to even think of making decisions regarding our rights. That's what Conservatives really are, you know. The fake ones have been working hard for several years now to control our lives and take away our liberties...ahhh, the good old days. by Deborah Wells (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 92 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:03:27 AM
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Reply: and what of collective reality
real conservatism you say includes all your rights to freedom. but what does this mean in real terms. our country is a collective that includes people of great variety of backgrounds and history. some of that history has been abominable due to blatant racism and sexism of the ruling elite. this bigotry has been embedded into the cultural thinking of many people without their understanding. so how does your conservative sense of freedom deal with institutionalized bias? how does it deal with institutionalized classism--this biggest divide in our country? how does your conservatism deal with the collective need to build and maintain highways and other infrastructures that we have all become accustomed to having in good order? or education? do you want your tax dollars to support schools for your kids, but not others? do you think it fair? this country is based on a concept of fairness for all but it doesnt operate that way. dont you think that if the wealthy were reigned in by being forced to pay their fair share of taxes that we would be able to feed, house and educate ALL our citizens? dont you think that if democracy really was working then there would be many reigns put on corporations in order to protect jobs and pay scales? isn't the question more about the contradictions between capitalism and democratic values? by tanya (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 37 comments) on Monday, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:08:08 AM
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Reply: fiscal conservative
Words change over time. Fiscal Conservative now means fiscally irresponsible, deceptive and corrupt. Perhaps what you mean is you are Fiscally responsible and responsibility is a Progressive value. by Edwin Rutsch (64 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 155 comments) on Monday, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:18:09 AM
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Reply: we now see TRUE Conservatives
I would say what we now see is TRUE Conservatives. It is the real conservativism that was always there but was held in check by liberals and progressives.. Like the adults that keep a selfish child in check and say, 'be fair Johnny, share your toys." However, with 9/11 Conservatives were able to take full control and reveal the true underlying nature of conservativism with no responsible adults to keep conservativisms true selfish nature in check. For people that call themselves Conservatives, it's realy time to look at and question your real values. by Edwin Rutsch (64 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 155 comments) on Monday, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:27:53 AM
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