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August 21, 2008 at 00:09:06

Headlined on 8/21/08:
Commiting Political Suicide?

by Lisa Johnson     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Does the Democratic Party want to lose the 2008 Presidential Election? After the past eight years of Neopublicrat rule by decree (actually, let’s make that 14 years with a Republican majority in both the House and the Senate) and the degree of disgust with our government by We, the People, it has been said that this year would be a banner year for the Democratic Party.

I really have to wonder about that. It seems as though they want to lose yet again this election cycle. Let’s just look at Obama’s rhetoric prior to becoming the presumptive Democratic candidate. He was truly sounding like an agent of change – one who wanted to effect changes that would champion the cause for the citizen/taxpayers of this country. He sounded like one who wanted to return the balance of power to We, the People and not to the big-moneyed corporate and “Christian” interests that have contributed to the more and fascist environment that has permeated our government since the “Republican Revolution” began in earnest in 1994 courtesy of Newt Gingrich.

Since he has assumed the “presumptive Democratic candidate”, it seems he has done a 180 on many of the positions that made me think he could be the real deal. He backed down on the FISA legislation and has now said he would consider “offshore drilling,” albeit in conjunction with other measures meant to conserve energy and to more earnestly develop alternative sustainable energy resources.

What the hell is going on here? It now sounds as though we are subjected to either hard-right Republican ideologies or Republican-lite. It’s my understanding with the FISA legislation that if the latest version had not passed the law would have reverted to what was in place – which seemed to work fine until we ended up with a bunch of despotic bullies pretending to be governmental leaders. With regard to the offshore drilling, I have yet to hear either of the presumed candidates address the issue of the nearly six million acres of federal land that the corporate oil interests already hold drilling rights to. This land has been leased to them for years and yet none of these lands have been explored. Why not? Try, just try, to find unobfuscated facts about these leases and it’s nearly impossible. I have been searching in vain using “the Google” in conjunction with “the internets” to find such info and have hit a blank wall. Guess I’m just not politically perceptive enough to figure out the correct “key words” to assist in such a search. I have tried “federal land leases to oil” and the myriad of variations I can come up with in my somewhat older, less agile mind. I remain unable to find this information in ANY format much less an easily digestible version. Try finding out pertinent basic information on just about anything about our government – it’s damned near impossible.

It makes me wonder if this is done deliberately by our grand high government poobahs to purposely keep us in the dark. Try writing a letter to a Congressman or to a Senator? I do on a regular basis – granted many of them are “form” letters that I am alerted to by various websites I subscribe to – but what’s interesting is that I only  receive acknowledgement on a somewhat regular basis from one of my representatives. At that, it’s always the same boilerplate “one-size-fits-all” constituent response letter that always ends “I hope all is well in *****.”

Just as sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west on a daily basis, this election year is turning out to be more of the Same S*it Different Day (SSDD) as the previous two federal elections (2000 and 2004). In those years, there were two selected candidates, both real “combat” veterans whose bravery under fire, courage, and honor to serve their country when their country asked them to whose service was demeaned by condescending hypocritical “Young Republicans.” These Yrs support Dubya’s War on Iraq but can’t be bothered to answer the call because they, like their heroes, Dubya and Darth, have better things to do. They think they can contribute better on the home front by emulating their phony and hypocritical leaders. Yellow elephants, indeed (which is truly an insult to elephants as they are very intelligent and sensitive mammals).

The sight of the chicken hawk Republicans at their convention parading around with their “Purple Heart Band-aids” sickened me more than I care to remember. How absolutely condescending and patronizing of the ideological “do as I say but not as I do” brain-dead sycophants. Kerry was disused, even though he was truly a “war hero” because he, upon returning to this country, dared to speak up against the war in Vietnam and he dared to throw his medals away. BFD – he threw his medals away – they were his – he earned them and he had the right to throw them away. He acted and spoke from his own experience, not from sitting in a think tank conjuring up reasons why we should go to war and stay at war.

Now, we come to Obama. The smears against him began in earnest months ago. They are reaching new lows for sheer stupidity – in fact, there are too many of them at this point to remember them all. Cokie Roberts uttered one particularly vapid one. She found fault with Obama and his family making a short trip to visit his family in Hawaii. Hawaii – according to Cokie – was inappropriate – because it was “foreign and exotic.” Forget the fact that hundreds of American service members died at Pearl Harbor in the 1940s or that Hawaii is one of the 50 states of this country. Cokie decided that Obama should have gone to Myrtle Beach. Myrtle Beach, quite honestly, is an expensive tourist trap. Oh, but, Obama should have gone there and forsaken his blood family who live in Hawaii.

So, where are the other Democratic Party leaders? Why aren’t they taking a few lessons out of the Rove Playbook and getting themselves booked on the Sunday morning news shows or holding press conferences taking the sleazy loudmouth jerk-offs of the Faux News on tit for tat? Why aren’t they speaking out, standing up, and going to bat for Obama? Why are they caving in to the idiots who got us into this mess and who refuse to accept responsibility for it? Why are they so afraid to call the Neopublicrats out for what they are – amoral and hypocritical sewer cretins?

They are conspicuous by their absence. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Where is Pelosi? Where is Reid? Where is Conyers? Where is Hoyer? Where are the other top Democratic leaders? Why, when they do say something do they  also praise McCain a la Bill and Hillary Clinton? Why are they doing this? For a while, I began to sense a sliver of hope that perhaps, just perhaps, we could save our country from the intellectual and moral abyss that we have slid into. I now have grave reservations.

Why does the Democratic Party, yet again, want to commit political suicide? Will anyone tell us?

 

Female US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront. I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

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Michael McCoy is a free American, Vietnam era vet and has ensured that he can withstand an IRS audit and any sudden, unannounced search of his home and documents, in his absence or otherwise. He obsesses about nothing but abscesses over the perversion of his country's ideals, values and democratic due process by cleverly disguised dictators. He has a passion to see the real mass murderers of 911 exposed with all due disgrace - and each conspirator/liar that sought the invasion of Iraq and the s...

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Michael McCoyMichael McCoy is a free American, Vietnam era vet and has ensured that he can withstand an IRS audit and any sudden, unannounced search of his home and documents, in his absence or otherwise. He obsesses about nothing but abscesses over the perversion of his country's ideals, values and democratic due process by cleverly disguised dictators. He has a passion to see the real mass murderers of 911 exposed with all due disgrace - and each conspirator/liar that sought the invasion of Iraq and the s...

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Just the facts, please

I can sum up the democrats in one word:  Pelosi.

She is the face of the democratic party and she exemplifies the treason festering within the party, and the entire Congress for that matter.   At the helm of the Sham House, single-handedly, Pelosi has allowed the Bush criminal syndicate to shred the US constitution and to deliberately take a nation to war on a conspiracy of lies.

No longer can any sensible person of conscience alive on planet earth, dispute the verified pieces of the puzzle, once hidden, now accessible.

A conspiracy of carefully and meticulously forged intelligence.  Deliberate supression of mountains of evidence that disputed their claims.  Gagging and threatening a myriad of expert officials, both high and low, that proved that the allegations about Iraq were patently false.  Ignoring and secreting countless US and foreign intelligence estimates that consistently showed Iraq to be a paper tiger.  And that there was no relationship, ever, between Iraq and al Qaeda.

Institutional deception of immense proportions and consequences; a chorus of fear mongering and revenge, with Bush leading the posse.  Manufacturing consent causing a catastrophy of blood, death, misery and hatred on the world stage.

Deliberate, intentional, calculated and with complete forethought.  Industrialized murder, purely and simply.

And Pelosi has become a bona-fide coconspirator after the fact.

4,166 US military lives lost.  Over 25,000 with life changing injuries.  And nealy one million, (that's 1,000,000), Iraqi civilians are dead, over half, likely women and children.

Regarding 911, let's make it clear:  If I didn't see the speed limit signs, the caution lights, the "School Ahead" warning and I struck and killed a child with my automobile, I would rightly go to jail.

I would be held accountable, speaking loudly to the principle of "due dilligence".

With an unprecedented and steady stream of warnings from all quarters about an impending and spectacular attack on the US, just how is Bush's malfeasance, ineptitude and gross negligence in the deaths of nearly 3,000 American citizens on 911 different?

Will he or his henchmen be held accountable?

Don't count on it.  Thanks Speaker/Madam Pelosi.

by Michael McCoy (5 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 343 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 1:26:31 AM
 


Female US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Lisa JohnsonFemale US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Aurora, Thank You

for posting not only the link to this picture but also to the Pelosi video clip. I was initially quite excited when she became Leader of the House as I thought it might signal a sea change in the way things were done in DC. She has been such a bitter disappointment.

Her leadership, at the best, has been very poor. She made a strategical  error when she took impeachment "off the table." It sent the administration and its Congressional sycophants a very clear message that the status quo could and would continue unabated.

That is an abuse of her power and a failure on her part to do the job she took an Oath to do -- which is to protect and defend the US Constitution. That is unforgiveable.

I do not live in her district so I cannot vote in opposition to her. However, I hope the people of her district send a strong signal to her and elect Cindy Sheehan.

We need leaders who are not afraid to kick ass and take names -- not pansies in need of water.

by Lisa Johnson (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 2:11:46 PM
 


B.Soc.Sci (Aus). Helped start an Organic Food Co-op and a Local Energy Transfer System (goods & services exchange, no cash). Lived near permaculture's Bill Mollison for a time, saw semi barren land transformed into gardens and orchards. Worked in a Community Support Center. Currently in NZ/ Aotearoa.
AuroraB.Soc.Sci (Aus). Helped start an Organic Food Co-op and a Local Energy Transfer System (goods & services exchange, no cash). Lived near permaculture's Bill Mollison for a time, saw semi barren land transformed into gardens and orchards. Worked in a Community Support Center. Currently in NZ/ Aotearoa.

Thank you too Lisa

I know, I too felt so optimistic when she first became speaker.
And for a long time I was protective of her, as a woman - applying my own gender bias, I'm beginning to think..   Would I have waited so long to accept the reality of what she is doing, if she had been a man?  aaargh!!

It was really only after her total non-response to the "nonimpeachment" hearing that I finally woke up and accepted what she is - a fully committed Repub/ Neocon in tattered Dem clothing.  Very sad (my own reluctance to fully recognize and acknowlege the obvious).

Thanks for what you have written - I agree about the Dem suicide thing and the way it is happening - Very disappointing.

by Aurora (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 354 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 2:38:14 PM
 


Female US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Lisa JohnsonFemale US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Nancy Pelosi (and Hillary Clinton)

I was also excited when Hillary initially decided to run -- it struck me that this was a very historic moment -- both a female and a Caucasian/African male running and that the two combined would make a very formidible team.

However, as the compaign went on, and Clinton started going around the bend and trying to emulate a white, rich, male politician who was also a war-hawk, she started losing me.

I'd have had a lot more respect for her if she would have manned up and admitted that her vote on the War Authorization Act was, at least in retrospect, wrong. I could have held my nose and accept that had it been sincere. Her refusal to do so bothered me a lot.

Then, she started upholding McCain's qualifications along with her own and dissing Obama's qualifications. As I see it, Obama is just as qualified, if not more so, than Dubya was when he was sElected by the USSC as the winner of the election.

 Hillary has been just as much of a disappointment as Ms. Pelosi. More than anything, I think their selling of their honor and their dereliction of their duties as federal representatives is unconscionable. I do understand that there are time when you have to "go along to get along" but that should not be trumped by standing up for the Constitution and doing the job you swore that you would do.

That, to me is truly unpatriotic and unAmerican -- at least what I believe is patriotic and American. 

 

by Lisa Johnson (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 2:52:51 PM
 


Committed to a Democrat President in 2008
Julie JohnsonCommitted to a Democrat President in 2008

Hillary & Bill Are Major Contributors to Political Suicide

Hillary should never have used Republican campaign tactics against Obama.  It was wrong and it showed her desperation to win at all costs. that dirty campaigning

The headlines have been Hillary & Bill taking over the convention and McCain's fear fueling ads.  The media almost always fails to point out the lies about Obama's tax plan in McCain's ads.

Hillary is far more responsible than any thing Nancy has done.  Now superdelegates are in a difficult position.  Should they stay with Hillary, especially if he loses they do not want the score keeping Clintons to be angry. 

 

by Julie Johnson (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 29 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 5:54:45 PM
 


Female US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Lisa JohnsonFemale US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Hillary and Bill

Julie, Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this very important issue regarding the Clintons. Sadly, I have to agree. I simply can't buy that anyone is "entitled" to be President simply because they've been around for a while. This is a position of trust and authority that is supposed to be decided by We, the People.

WE have the right to decide who WE think deserves this honor and privilege. This idea that they can shame or twist arms of people to get what they want is despicable and is, in itself, a good object lesson as to what their real motives and intentions are. They want to do it because it will assuage their egos and their idea of what success is. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If any candidate wants my vote, they have to demonstrate to me that they truly deserve it and they will conduct themselves in such a way that will bring honor to not only themselves but to We, the People and to the country we ALL live in.

Likewise, I, in turn, expect that those candidates will do the following:

1. Respect the laws of our land, specifically the Constitution.

2. They will uphold equality and justice for ALL, not just themselves and their hand-chosen buddies.

3. They will conduct all affairs of state to honor our country and its legacy.

4. They will set the example of a democratic republic.

5. And they will defend the US Constitution again all enemies, foreign and domestic.

If they can't show me that, they will NOT get my vote and they most certainly not get my support. I will not respect anyone who holds the office of President simply because they are there. They will have to earn my respect. If they are unable to do so, I reserve the right to speak up and out when I think they are derelict in their duties and responsibilities.

 

 

by Lisa Johnson (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 6:39:32 PM
 


Hater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired
John HanksHater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired

Politics is crookism. It is bogus for many good reasons.

It is more like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football than anything else.  Every card is carefully marked by crooks so they can manipulate suckers using human weakness from the pursuit of virtue to the pursuit of a good lay.  American politics blindfolds all the suckers, hands them a one foot ruler, and hides the pinata.

We need smarts, and we need to show others all the tricks.  You don't need politics to do that. 

 

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1376 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 11:04:47 AM
 


Kevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral sys...

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Kevin GosztolaKevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral sys...

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Vote Nader?

You may have serious problems with Ralph. Whatever hangups you may have, they aren't worth it when considering the need to challenge the Democratic Party.

With how close the election is, 4% makes a difference. That 4% could vote Obama if he was saying what need's to be said and if he was talking about taking actions that need to be taken to get this country on track.

Specifically, ending the "war on terror" is of the utmost importance.

The only way we have power is if we have a breaking point and can say "no."

Say "no." It feels good.  

by Kevin Gosztola (231 articles, 127 quicklinks, 72 diaries, 895 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 11:37:34 AM
 


Female US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Lisa JohnsonFemale US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Vote Nader

Believe it or not, there have many times in past election cycles when I have voted third party. I did just that in 1988 when Bush 41 was running against Dukakis. I didn't like either one so I wrote in John Madden and Pat Summerall.

However, the past four Presidential cycles -- beginning with Clinton -- I personally believe there has been too much at stake to vote third party. I believe those same circumstances are at play this election cycle.

Not only do we have to get our country back on the correct course but another far-reaching vital issue is that of future Supreme Court nominees. There is simply too much at risk in that regard to consider whether or not to vote for neither of the "main party" candidates.

We have future decisions about the legality of warrantless surveillance of American citizens, the data mining of our personal information, the restoration of Habeas Corpus, continuation of detention of "enemy combatants" even after they have been tried and serve their sentences (reference Hamdan), the right to make medical decisions for women not being co-opted by the zealots of organized religion.

In other words, there is a myriad of issues that will have serious impacts on the future of our Constitution and our adherence to it. There has been too much shredding of it for the illusion of the all-knowing unitary executive.

These are risks that I simply will not make by voting for a third-party candidate this election cycle. That is not in the Oath of Enlistments I took when I was in the Army. I swore to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies -- foreign and domestic -- and I will live the rest of my life doing just that.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue -- I do appreciate it.

by Lisa Johnson (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 12:46:24 PM
 


I live on an island off the coast of Maine. Political junkie of liberal persuasion.
I have long been a registered Independent and now am a member of the Maine Green Independent Party.

Widower, grandfather of two, retired.

Jack HarringtonI live on an island off the coast of Maine. Political junkie of liberal persuasion.
I have long been a registered Independent and now am a member of the Maine Green Independent Party.

Widower, grandfather of two, retired.

I wrote in

Alfred E. Neuman in 1984. Guess I was Mad.

I have noticed that very shortly after Hillary withdrew, that Obama began picking up her advisors and campaign people and his message quickly changed. Co-incidence? Maybe. Fatal? Hopefully.

 I voted Nader in the past, but this year I am supporting Cynthia McKinney.

 

Just saying. 

by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 400 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 1:03:43 PM
 


Female US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Lisa JohnsonFemale US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

I Wrote In

Jack now that was punny -- voting for Alfred E. Newman because you were "Mad." Very good.

The beauty of our system as it was designed (not as it has been bastardized by the professional strategists and politicians) is that we all have the right to make the decision we believe best for us when it comes to voting.

I certainly do respect Ms. McKinney and if memory serves me correctly she is one of the very few federal reps who has truly been a living example of the word "maverick" and who has dared to stand up for the Constitution. If she were my representative, she would definitely have my support and my vote.

by Lisa Johnson (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 1:24:24 PM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolevee.com
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolevee.com

For crying out loud ...

Look, one more time - this entire election process is a farce. Scripted from the get-go to make us disenfranchised, confused and disillusioned. What better way to do this than to crush all hope just when we need it the most?

Who gives a sh*t what the Democrats are doing? Outside of a very few who are ignored, ridiculed and silenced the entire party is no more than a large crime family who couldn't give a sh*t about us! It's like asking a herion dealer if he cares about the people that get hooked.

Of course McCain isn't fit to be POTUS - neither is Obama. It was made to be this way!

Think! Two dark-horses come from behind the largest field of candidates in recent history, with a passion for justice not seen in generations, and we wind-up with two war-mongering, New World Order syphocants being shoved down our throats as the best we can do? Are you f*cking kidding me?! Do any of you really buy this tripe?

To hell with these murders! 

Pakistan knows more about having a democratic/republic than we do! Instead playing patty-cake with these treasonous bastards we should be following Pakistan's lead and throwing them out, trying them and if found quilty given an appropriate punishment.

Election, my ass ... we should have one, but on our terms! Sledge-hammers to e-voting machines comes to mind.

But on a less violent practice of civil disobedience by refusing to vote on those rigged machines and getting behind one independent candidate that is still legally in the race, say McKinney, and telling where both, republican and democrats, where they can stick it.

But, by God people, please, stop pretending that what Obama, McCain, or either of these completely phony parties are doing means anything, other than to pay attention to what muderous trick they might pull to bring-on Martial Law. Because I promise you this - this is the last election we'll ever have before the food riots, and these mad, pathological sociopaths push for a New World Order.

They murdered 3,000 on 9/11. Before that Oklahoma, Waco, USS Liberty, Madrid, London, Iraq, Afganistan, they're pushing for Iran and Russia, they're a mad gang of meglamaniacs - the people you nuance are mass murders! Deal with it!

Which one are you going to vote for? Talk about the "lesser of two evils?"

Please stop.

Please - wake up ... I wish there was a way to say this politely. But when someone's house is on fire it's kind of hard to talk trivia.

And yes - it is this bad.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 1696 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 9:27:21 PM
 


Female US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Lisa JohnsonFemale US Army veteran (honorable) -- also a baby-boomer/ hippie/flower child. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Father (deceased) was a WW II vet and mother (deceased) worked in support of the defense industry on the homefront.

I eschew just about anything that is organized, particularly politics and religion and a proud secular humanist -- who believes in equality and justice for all. If we are not all equal, there is no equality.

Mr. M

Damn, I'm very irritated right now -- I had just finished responding to your comments and while in the revision process lost the whole damned thing. I can't duplicate it, so I'll have to redo the whole thing.

I read your first comments and your most current ones and am at a loss for words because I largely agree with what you say -- is it a racket? Yes, it is. I don't know who you reference when you say "they" killed 3,000 people. Who is the they you are referring to? I want to be sure I understand what you are getting at before I respond to those comments.

Am I happy with the choices we have? No, not especially. In elections past, I have frequently voted third party. However, I am not willing to cede this upcoming election to the very people who have already partially destroyed our Constitution. I cannot and won't do that by voting for a candidate who has no chance at all of being elected. If there weren't so much at stake I would do it in a heartbeat. However, when we are considering a candidate such as McCain, who, while I respect his military service, do not respect the man for who and what he is now. He has voted lock-step with Bush -- who I consider a traitor and a war criminal and has further stated that he would like to take away women's rights to make their own medical decisions. I was on the front lines of that battle in the early 70s and I have to take a stand against that kind of patronizing behavior on the part of our legislators.

I could go on but I won't. I do understand your mistrust and cynicism of our political system. I have been disillusioned and mistrustful of it for years as a result of my own military service and the games I have seen played. I know how this system works and I despise it.

However, I will not give up without a fight and giving it my best shot. I have to do that for my own personal integrity and honor as a human being and a person who believes in equality and justice for all. If I choose to ignore it, then I believe that makes me a hypocrite.

I thank you for sharing your comments. They provide serious food for thought and I can be an introspective person when the situation calls for it. By the way, before I close this out, please accept my thanks for your service to our country as a Vietnam War vet from another vet (Vietnam Era). It is appreciated.

Now, I'm going to post this so I don't lose my comments for a second time.

by Lisa Johnson (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 10:38:42 PM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolevee.com
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolevee.com

Lisa ...

Let me make myself perfectly clear. When I say "they", I mean members of Illuminati, Free Masons, Skull & Bones, Tri-Lateral Commission, Consul of Foreign Relations, Bilderbergs, and any of the ancient dynasties who have for thousands of years ruled both from behind the scenes and in front, and all their willing enablers, the people they've bought-off and those that remain ignorant of them on purpose.

These groups of pathological sociopaths have inbreed and become some of the sickest people that have every roamed the Earth. They're pedophiles, tortures and murders of the most devious and demented kind, and they have infested every major post in our schools, universities, law enforcement, courts, media, civil service and government. Many of them are direct descendents of Nazi's, indeed, what we have going on is exactly what took place with the rise of Nazi Germany, Google Operation Paper-clip if you don't believe me. It's documented historical fact that Prescott Bush financed Hitler's rise to power and along with other major financiers planned to execute a military take-over over our country in 1933 and replace our government with a fascist state.

These same people are responsible for the murder of 3,000 people on September 11, 2001. It was not foreign terrorists that blow those building up. If you're still naive enough to believe the "official story", I have no hope for you; do your research, watch Terror Storm, Mysteries 9/11, Press For Truth 9/11 or any of the perhaps 60 to 70 documentaries on 9/11.

These same people are responsible for Oklahoma City, the first WTC bombing, Waco, Madrid, London and many more acts of terror. Google: USS Liberty

Why would they do this? For power, control, the same reason any sick group of insane people have tried to crush anything that they can't stand, like beauty and love, these are satanic people, they worship ancient demonic Gods.

Google: Bohemia Grove, find out just how demented these bastards are. So when one comes to understand the scope and dement ion of the corruption it becomes apparent that only the absolute dumbest of people in power could not be at least dimly aware that elements within our government are mass murders of the worst kind.

The fact that no proper criminal investigation was every done on 9/11 has to tell you something. So how can not Obama, McCain, or anyone in public office not ask for one?  Are we to believe that these connected, influential people can’t find out what an average citizen can in one afternoon of investigation?

The answer is chilling to these questions are chilling. But it makes sense when you look at the inaction of any of these cretins to do anything, not just with 9/11, but with any of the crimes that have been committed. Why no impeachment? Why no end to war? A majority of people want these things, so why aren't they happening? Do you really think it's because they have no "back-bone"? Back-bone for what? They should be scared of us! But they're not! They don't even care what we think. So who are they listening to? If you had a gang of mass murders telling you to do something on one hand and a population of ignorant sheeple on the other, whom would you listen to? Whose bidding would you do? Until we can threaten our so-called representatives with an equal threat, we're lost.

This is the final battle. If we screw this one up we can kiss our species good-bye. You, your children, your parents, friends, relatives, everyone you've known and will know will be dead.

Think I'm being melodramatic? Google: CODEX Alimentarius, see what they have in store for us come December 31, 2009, in the first year of their planned implementation of forced nutritional food standards their own papers state 3,000,000,000 people will die!

We've been played. The Matrix is real. And the battle isn't coming - it's here.

Google: Georgia Guidestones and read what this slim has planned for mankind.

So, are you willing to vote for these murders because they’ve forced you into a position into of “not wasting your vote”? Waste your vote on what? What choice do you have? They're both murders. Do you think any one murderer is going to be less gentle with you when they declare Martial Law?

When you’re aware that they’re enablers to those that murdered 3,000 people on 9/11 and used that to kill over a million more, and are panning to murder billions, you think your vote counts when you place it on a machine that may or may not  even count it? (not being more likely)

Please stop, wake-up, get mad, don’t do it their way! When you go to vote do it loud and not on their machines and tell them why. Tell them you know 9/11 was committed by them. What do you have to lose? Don't wait till then. Do whatever and anything you can do now! We haven't got a day to loss. These bastards have been planning this for hundreds of years and we're just becoming aware, we have no time to spare - none.

If we allow them to get away with this one we’re all dead anyway. Act like this means everything – because it does.

 

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 1696 comments) on Friday, August 22, 2008 at 12:31:43 AM
 


Vietnam veteran, editor and publisher of Rabble Rouser
Walter F. WoukVietnam veteran, editor and publisher of Rabble Rouser

John Kerry's medals

Kerry didn't throw his medals away. He made it appear that he threw his medals away.  By his own admission he tossed his ribbons -- and medals belonging to two other Vietnam veterans -- over the fence at the White House.  

Kerry was a poseur who associated with Vietnam Veterans Against the War when it suited his needs, and  severed his ties with the organization when it was politically correct to do so.  He's a typical "new democrat."

by Walter F. Wouk (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 3 comments) on Saturday, August 23, 2008 at 7:17:51 AM