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October 1, 2008 at 16:06:11
Promoted to Headline (H2) on 10/1/08: by Paul Craig Roberts Page 1 of 1 page(s) |
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Time frames
This "bailout" (aka "The Splurge") doesn't have to work in the LONG term. It just has to work until November 5, 2008, so that the economy won't be an issue that John McCain has to deal with before the election. It doesn't even have to REALLY work at all, it just has to RAISE THE DOW, as that is now, officially, "the economy" to most media people. As long as the DJIA goes up between now and November 5, 2008, the splurge will have done all that any Rethuglican wants it to do. And even then, there will be Rethuglican advertising that blames the Democrats in some way for passing the bailout. by Charlie L (2 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 747 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:53:49 AM
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Robbing the lifeboats won't save the Titanic.
Robbing the lifeboats won't save the Titanic. Get ready for the big plunge and crooks calling in the cops. by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1760 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:53:13 AM
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Another step by the Dominionists with another shock for us.
One of the tenants of PNAC is the remaking of the USA into a full fledged empire sans any democratic or Bill of Rights caused 'problems.' This is the first of a series of shocks to us in that transformation. For as one of their chief sages, Milton Friedman stated; the best way to make a new thing is to destroy the old. Whether by natural or human made disaster. This one is definitely of human construction. The shock can work both ways if we bring down the architecture that put us in this position in the first place and put instead one that is more attuned to our way of life and ethical considerations and economic benefit. by nightgaunt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 448 comments [27 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:47:17 PM
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Ending the war saves the economy
This article is absolutely to the point and we haven't been hearing this enough. We have debt at three different levels- personal household debt, financial sector debt and public debt. The first has swamped the second and now the second is being made to swamp the third. The attitude of our leaders is to do nothing about the first level of debt and to pretend that the third level of debt doesn't matter at all. The only possible way to avoid catastrophe, as this article points out, is to begin carefully and deliberately drawing down the public debt. This in a way that protects average people so that their situations don't get any worse. Ending the wars immediately is in fact our only hope to stay afloat. This understanding of the importance of the Federal deficit is also a key point of convergence with anti-establishment conservatives and we should take full advantage of it for a working alliance. by Doug Rogers (16 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 152 comments) on Thursday, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:49:49 PM
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thanks Mr. Roberts
for this illuminating analysis. Wall Street has proven the limitations of capitalism in rigged markets controlled by secretive and corrupt private interests. The Constitution authorizes Congress to coin money, the authority should never have been outsourced to the Fed, it's time to create a transparent monetary system that is owned and controlled by the people. Level the playing field, make the economy and government serve the public interest, and the best ideas and hardest workers will rise to the top. The current system is rewarding the most corrupt and destructive, sucking on the human race like a cancer as the economy grows thanks to those who are actually creating value. by Better World Order (4 articles, 568 quicklinks, 39 diaries, 1110 comments [56 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Thursday, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:12:51 PM
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This is Price-fixing and NOT just a bailout
There is a sense of panic that has been created by the media and public officials that will be responsible for withdrawals from commercial banks. Credit markets, like property markets, fluctuate based on changing conditions. Property values fluctuate based on the decline of neighborhoods, decreases in demand for home ownership, or interest rates change. Look to the real world. Unemployment in the Great Depression was over 20% or more. Tight credit is NOT the same as a Depression. Is the prospect of people not being able to get a car loan such a catastrophe that we have to hand over 1 trillion dollars to the Secretary of the Treasury? Are cutting taxes more important than balancing the budget? Are lower home prices really something that we should have nightmares about? Employers laying off workers because they cannot get credit is a recession, not a natural disaster. Can you say: “business cycle”? The real protection needed for pensions and 401(k)s are not even on the table. At least this will withdraw currency from investment market that are bloated with cash now. It will also provide security for the individual accounts that are currently dependent on the stock market. The Fed needs to raise interest rates and capital gains taxes need to be increased. Housing prices should not be fixed in an atmosphere of panic. “In 2004 Business Week Magazine and others criticized his keeping of low interest levels too long and his concurrent praise of sub-prime lending vehicles such as ARMs as leading to a housing bubble.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan nstead, there is a move from the Right to decrease corporate taxes and keep the currency flooding the economy. FDIC guarantees were increased in the Senate bill. This will increase expenditures as well and is more intended for its mass psychological impact than for protection for depositors. A devalued dollar will make this protection irrelevant. Even if the government intervenes and requires a minimum price for property there is no way it can presume that the selling prices will not fluctuate downward. Government guarantee of asset valuations does not circumvent the market prices of property. It merely steps in to take a loss that private investors or buyers are not willing to. It is worth saying that it becomes a much more complex and veiled process open to new forms of price fixing and corruption. The effort to fix prices through this bailout will become an increasingly exercised option for the future because the real goal is to perpetuate prosperity and avoid any market valuation of assets. The bailout will not avoid recession. It will only increase the amount required for the government to pump prime the economy. This is not socialism by any definition though. It IS price-fixing of property and is bound to failure. by Matoska (22 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 33 comments) on Thursday, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:42:42 PM
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Regulation is a form of risk management
Everybody drives on the one side of the road, not as an infringement on your personal liberty but because you have less accidents that way. Regulation can be good for you. by kwalsh (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 275 comments [10 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:59:21 PM
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