I would like to know why I should vote for Hillary.
ERIC
4:10pm Jan 17th
I'd say vote for the person you think is best. Obviously you know that but I more than likely will vote for her because I think she is smart and will be good as president.
I think she does have a lot more experience than people give her credit for. People who criticize her say that being a first lady isn't experience. That's true but Hillary Clinton has been an active first lady. Her plan for health care bombed while her husband was in office and people are still angry over her getting into something like that.
I also don't see why people hate her. They think she is crazy, but what I think it is has to do with her being a woman. A lot of people call her a bitch and what not but honestly when a man is strong and assertive then he would be classified as a great and strong leader. When Hillary Clinton tries to do the same thing people call her a bitch. I disagree with that.
Also Hillary Clinton, to me at least, is well spoken. I liked her story about how she first was a republican because her family was that way. Then later on she said she changed to a democrat because she felt that there are people in this country who weren't born with the same opportunities she had. That to me is a really great thing for her to realize. I hate Obama because all he does is make stupid speeches but Hillary slammed him by saying that she has a longer history of making change versus Obamas stupid talking points. He also has only 2-3 years experience as a senator which brings me to my next point.
She's got the experience. Like I said, people don't think she has but I think they don't give her credit. Look at her life, she was with Bill when he was a governor and president. She has been in the white house seeing first hand how the government operates. Again people say she was just a first lady but she was way more involved than a first lady. So with her first hand experience seeing the inside of the white house, as well as her involvement with making health care more available to poor people. So she has the years experience in the white house and the senate. She's met people through those time periods which makes her have greater possibility for running the country.
Think about it, she knows way more people than Obamam. Obama can promise anything he wants to. That's why people like him. They like Obama because he's different and has ideas. But so does any hobo off of the street. Now put that hobo in office and look at him try to figure out a way to make those ideas come to light. Hillary Clinton has the advantage because of her experience and people she has met. And honestly her husband will help her out. I don't think that is a bad thing really.
Again basically I don't like the fact that people hate hillary clinton. Not just dislike but HATE her. I don't see why. I hear some people saying she's a communist and she's an anti gun freak. That is totally bogus to me. All she wants and I'm sure tons of people including Obama and what not, is for people to live life knowing that they have the opportunity for medical care when they need it. To me there is absolutely no reason to knock this. My mom doesn't have health care along with 40 million other Americans. I don't see how its at all warranted to criticize people by calling them communists for wanting to help people who have to live on the edge of a cliff, worrying every day that nothing goes wrong. My mom is in that exact position right now and I cannot help but feel terrible. Her sister was diagnosed with breast cancer, and our family has a high risk for cancer. Right now she cannot even afford to get examinations done which scares the shit out of me, let alone I have no idea what she goes through.
It's really unfair honestly. I don't know I could go on really of why I like her but it's getting too long and I am probably not making my points that strong so I will end it here.
Why don't you like her?
ERIC
4:15pm Jan 17th
Oh about Hillary knowing more people, my point was unclear about that. What I mean is that since she has met a lot of people in her years in the public office, both as a senator and with her husband, she knows tons of people that can help her accomplish goals as president.
If Clinton goes in the office she has all of these people she has met in her life to really help her get the job done. I hope that kind of makes sense. Obama just because he makes cool ideas and speeches doesn't mean he's the best candidate for the job because how will he accomplish that once he is in office.
Kevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral system, its military-industrial complex, its foreign policy of American exceptionalism, its media which has become the Fourth Branch of government,etc.)
His ambitions have him currently organizing and raising money for a Chicago Conference for Media Reform in April or May of 2009. It will be organized by college students to promote youth involvement in media reform and justice. Those interested in attending or helping with the organization of the program should contact him.
No sadness or empathy about Waco, Serbian war, war in Iraq and Afghanistan. No rage towards murder of innocents. No passion really.
Kevin, I do not want to sound patronising though but many young adults here seem to be 'undeveloped' in the area of good, solid human emotions. They are indeed 'poor spirits'. I am not insisting all of them are but there is surely a tendency. Otherwise they would understand how clisheed they sounded.
This is from a grumpy man:)
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Mark Sashine (51 articles, 19 quicklinks, 244 diaries, 3465 comments)
on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 8:57:52 AM
Part of that is a mission to try to uncover the why for voting for either of the candidates who are called "leading candidates" or "frontrunners" now. Why are young people drawn to any of these candidates?
What worries me is these are people who will be the future leaders of America. This is the next generation of politicians and policymakers in America. These people who are volunteers and campaign organizers working on chapters of the campaigns will decide what America does twenty or thirty years from now.
I cannot allow them to be so impassionate, discompassionate, uneducated, and misled. I also cannot allow them to have zero imagination for what could be changed here in America. All of their visions for change are so stunted by reality, a reality that each of their candidates (in this case Hillary) could change or shape because as president they could be that powerful or inspirational.
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Kevin Gosztola (212 articles, 114 quicklinks, 70 diaries, 812 comments)
on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 9:15:10 AM
No arts- no development. The role of arts in the humans development is enormous- arts develop personality. How many of them had seen the Goya's ' Horrors of war'? How many had seen ballet? How many had discused great artists like Renoir or Monet? How many read ' The confessions of Nat Turner' Ok, how many of them read ' Common Sense' on their own?
Without this, without the cultural foundation you get a Zombie.
You have your hands full, Kevin, I have to say. I have a son and he is in Peace Corps and I see how very good basically young people suffer because they just... have not ever been introduced to humanity through arts.
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Mark Sashine (51 articles, 19 quicklinks, 244 diaries, 3465 comments)
on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 9:25:29 AM
Great reading and comments. I'd like to add that I have always equated the Arts with not just personality, but with human dignity. Expression allows people to build and voice their self-worth.
The young are like young of past genreations. They too are duped like adults. 59 million got Bush elected, only a fraction were the young. The building of social capital in our young is lacking. I believe this stems from technology(which decreases social interaction), lack of parental guidance, and education vs. indoctrination.
If schools don't have your children reading great literature like "common sense", "the rights of man," the age of reason," "peoples history of the united states" then it's the job of parents to see they do. however, it pleases me to read more and more highschools are using Howard zinn's "peoples history of the united states" as their history texts.
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william eldridge (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 10 comments)
on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 12:38:48 PM
In this Red State I went to school in (Indiana), we used good ol' McGraw-Hill textbooks.
Corporatized learning to make your mind go numb.
And if that wasn't enough to make you dumb in the brain, teacher wouldn't talk about history but instead ask us to fill in worksheets by copying and pasting the words or phrases that needed to be filled in onto a piece of paper.
We called it "busy work." And it does nothing for the mind. You don't learn---you memorize. And you don't critically think---you end up hating thinking.
"Busy work" didn't beat me. But it sure has beaten others.
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Kevin Gosztola (212 articles, 114 quicklinks, 70 diaries, 812 comments)
on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 1:50:56 PM
I was amazed by the low level of the ' cutural awareness' of the teachers here in the area of liberal arts. English teachers did not know other books by Jack London but Call of the Wild. Paintings, the whole are of those were never discussed. Ballet- oh, boy. Opera- not a chance. The so- called diversity classes teaching about other people were a joke. I always laugh when they mention Dostoevsky as a most popular Russian writer here: he is one of the most tough writers to read even in Russian, not to mention English. Hey, how about ' Moby Dick', had anyone ever read this one in original. I recently discovered a magnificent work by Charles Upham about Salem Witches trials and I ran like crazy to the High School and hollered that that book was to be studied by everyone. Not a chance.
Of course, arts develop a sense of dignity, sure. Where the Hell is this sense when our current Pres does not know even English language?Maybe we all wait for Harry Potter to solve our problems?
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Mark Sashine (51 articles, 19 quicklinks, 244 diaries, 3465 comments)
on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 2:05:28 PM
Actually, Kevin, her supporters sound pretty savvy to me. Your comments did nothing to diminish their points. And as for being antagonistic, you were. That's the whole point of your exercise as you stated in the beginning. Though not in so many words.
You do seem to be one of those haters. It's a pity.
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fou (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 90 comments)
on Saturday, January 19, 2008 at 10:16:08 AM
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