Kall: In the RNC... was a terrifying story there. You know, what
you’ve described with the permitization, I started a web site that describes it. It’s called http://www.sphincterpolice.com; control freaks throughout the world. It’s really... but it’s terrible. Clarissa Pinkola Est és writes Running With Wolves [Women Who Run With the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype (Ballantine 1992/1996)] about wild women, and really it’s wild America. We need to have some of that heart that was in the original founders of America, and you can’t do that when you’ve put people in a little pen, and you can’t do that when the most common area where people gather is in a shopping mall, in an enclosed shopping mall.
Wolf: Exactly. Well, where you’re not allowed to protest, that’s the... that’s not public space.
Kall: And that should be changed. Protests and speaking within shopping malls should be required and allowed, and there’s no reason they couldn’t do that, either, is there?
Wolf: Well, honestly, I’d like to see that, but legally it is private space. So what I’d like to do is...
Kall: You know what? All they have to do is say, “If you’re going to build a shopping mall, or if you have one and you want to continue it, then you’ve got to allow people to speak, because this is America and that’s the common... this is the new community area.”
Wolf: All right. Look, I’m not a lawyer. I’d love to see the First Amendment every damn place an American will be. What you described when you talked about that inner wildness, that inner freedom, that’s what I discovered people around the world have always envied us for. It’s not our standard of living; it’s how it feels inside to be free. Americans? We have felt differently from other people internally, because there is this kind of... well, it’ll be an obscenity, but there’s kind of like “FU” to the powers that be, there’s a sense of “I can say what I want, I can go where I want, I am protected.” And what protected us? It was the Constitution.
I never realized before this journey that the Constitution is like this beautiful, powerful pair of arms, wrapping around me and my children, literally protecting us from beatings by a state agent, protecting us from being thrown in prison and left without due process, protecting us to say what we want and think what we want and feel how we feel,
and express it. So, that’s what Americans are losing now, and so yeah, absolutely, Give Me Liberty is the only program for doing things that are necessary in order to get that back and keep it forever and make sure that our kids have it. It’s so important that...
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