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January 14, 2008 at 08:06:56

South Carolina Elections Are UNCONSTITUTIONAL!?!

by Mark A. Adams JD/MBA     Page 2 of 10 page(s)

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If you are reading this online, you may have heard that curiously both Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney got a lot higher percentage of the votes in precincts which were counted on computers than they did in precincts which were counted by hand, and even more curiously, all of the other candidates showed exactly the opposite trends. If someone printed this out and handed it to you to read, then get online and look at the links that I am providing at the end of this article.

Many who look at these New Hampshire results think that it looks like the results from the machines were tampered with. In case this is the first time you are reading about how votes are counted on computers and you are thinking that these fears are unfounded, take a minute and think about three things: (1) How does a computer count votes? (2) Do computers sometimes malfunction? and (3) Do you have any security measures on your computer to protect against hackers?

The last two questions are really easy, but just in case you haven’t yet thought of how computers count, it is really simple. Computers count inside their case, with no oversight, just like they are told to do, unless of course, they malfunction or are hacked.

So, she wanted to know whether or not I thought that anyone could do anything about it. I told her that I would take a look, that I could write a story about it, and maybe shed some light on it. I told her that she might have some luck getting Congressman Dennis Kucinich to speak out against it, or maybe even take legal action. After all, there is legal and historical support for making sure that the votes are counted accurately. Congressman Kucinich has taken action to obtain a recount in New Hampshire, and he has been a truly great leader who has consistently worked to preserve your right to have your vote counted accurately.

I told her that Senator John Edwards has spoken out against touch screen voting machines, and that since he is also a well respected trial attorney, he might also be aware of current cases which seek to prohibit the use of computers to count votes in secret. She mentioned that she had heard that he was not happy that Senator Kerry conceded so quickly in 2004 especially with all of the reports of problems. But, she thought that since he is from South Carolina, he must have been aware of the implementation of touch screen voting machines there, and that if he were going to do anything, he would have already taken action.

So, I told her that I would take a look, let her know what I found, and write an article about South Carolina’s use of touch screen computers to count the votes. I really didn’t expect to find much other than the usual implementation of touch screens after passage of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA), but I was very pleasantly surprised. That’s right. I said, "pleasantly surprised."

I scroogled South Carolina elections. (Yeah, it’s not mispelled. See the link below.) I quickly found the State Election Commission’s web site. I noticed that South Carolina was using the notoriously unreliable iVotronic touch screen computers made by ES&S to conduct its elections. These were the same machines which had numerous problems recording votes accurately in Sarasota County, Florida in 2006.

I made a call to the office of South Carolina’s State Election Commission, and I was immediately connected with Chris Whitmire, its Public Information Officer. I explained I was doing research for an article on the upcoming election that I was going to write for Op Ed News, and he courteously answered my questions about what, when, where, why, and how South Carolina ended up using the iVotronic touch screens for its elections.

He informed me that after HAVA passed, South Carolina passed a statute, § 7-13-1655, which allowed the State Election Commission to decide how to conduct elections throughout the state and that the Commission decided to use touch screen computers to conduct elections. I asked who the Commissioners were and whether they were elected or appointed. They were appointed by the Republican Governor. It seems a little ironic that appointed bureaucrats decided how to preserve and protect democracy in South Carolina, doesn’t it?

I asked Chris whether the Commissioners were aware of the Everest report, the fact that leaders in other states have expressed concern about using computers to count votes, and about the problems with touch screen voting machines that have occurred in a variety of elections such as in 2006 in Sarasota, Florida. He told me that the commission was aware of all of that, but that they still had confidence that the touch screen computers would work in South Carolina.

Since they were appointed, I asked whether there was any rule requiring any diversity of backgrounds or parties. Chris informed me that at least one member had to be from each party. So, I said, "please tell me who is the Green, the Libertarian, the Socialist, and the Communist." We laughed as obviously the requirement only applies to membership in major parties, and Chris confirmed that the statute said that.

Although we hear about how we allow open debate and want tolerance and diversity, when it comes to who is in a seat of power, somehow you have to be either a Republican or a Democrat and of course, pro war. If we weren’t fighting them over there, we’d be fighting them over here, or something like that, right?

I asked whether there was any provision in South Carolina’s Constitution which prohibited the legislature from delegating its legislative power to the executive branch. Like most of you, Chris said, "what?" I said that the Founders had this belief that power should be split between the three branches of government. You know, that system of checks and balances thing.

A branch should not usurp the power of another branch or delegate its power to another branch. Don’t worry, most people don’t know about that. I wonder, could it be that lack of competition in education thing? Of course, Congress delegates its power away all the time now, so it must be OK, right? (It’s not me. I’m busy working to bring home the bacon here in DC. You need to contact the Department or the Court about that because they made that rule or issued that order, not us.)

Any way, I explained that some state constitutions specifically prohibit this, but he hadn’t heard of anything like that in South Carolina. Between us, no one really worries about separation of powers anymore except for the Federal Judiciary. The judges really do not want Congress to take back its role of reviewing complaints about judges and removing them by impeachment when they exhibit a lack of good behavior by blatantly ignoring the law, or the facts, or both.

The judges really like watching over themselves. They look into almost 1% of all complaints filed against them, and on rare occasions, they even reprimand one of their own. Congress doesn’t want to take the duty back either as that would take away from more urgent, important business like lunches, dinners, press conferences, fundraisers, etc.

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Mark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department. Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to require his inclusion in the Gubernatorial debates. Mark also represented John Russell, Clint Curtis, Frank Gonzalez, and others in contesting the official results of the 2006 elections in Florida state court and before the U.S. House of Representatives. Mark has been involved in the judicial reform movement since 2003, the media reform movement since 2004, and the election reform movement since 2006. Before those years, he believed that judges followed the law, that our media told us the truth, and that our votes were counted. Beliefs that most of us once held and that many still hold on to. Unfortunately, Mark, like many of us, learned that these beliefs were no longer true. However, Mark believes that we can counteract the forces which have destroyed these institutions if we face reality and take action before it is too late. Mark asks that you please remember that the American dream will die and our children will suffer if the people do not know what their government leaders are doing, if the people are not able to vote ineffective or corrupt leaders out of office, or if judges can ignore the law and the facts with no repercussions!

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Andi Novick
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UNCONSITUTIONALLY UNCOUNTED

This is an excellent piece.  We all know elections counted in secret is the essence of anti-american and can't possibly be consitutional, but Mark's given us the smoking gun of unconstitutional.  If the SC constitution says - no secret vote counting- what more could one want as proof that we've entered a very dark period in which time and time again the constitution is treated with the same respect as has been shown the Koran by some of our representatives in Iraq. 

andi

by andi novick (52 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 12:54:10 PM
 


Jim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.
Jim FreemanJim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.

While wondering why there are not comments on

such an explosive accusation, I waded through the 2 1/2 pages of side issues before getting to the crux of 'unconstitutional.'

Interesting stuff Mark, but take a lead from journalism and get to the point FIRST and then work backward to detail.

Not many are willing to search for the subject matter. 

by Jim Freeman (108 articles, 40 quicklinks, 180 diaries, 350 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 12:58:55 PM
 


Nobody special.
WatchingNobody special.

Nice try but not quite

http://www.scstatehouse.net/scconstitution/a01.htm

 

Here is Article I of the South Carolina constitution. Nowhere in it does it say votes must not be counted in secret.  

by Watching (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 314 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 3:13:48 PM
 


Nobody special.
WatchingNobody special.

I don't know why

but the message board made a broken link. Do not click on the word 'Here'. Click on the actual link.

by Watching (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 314 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 3:14:58 PM
 


Nobody special.
WatchingNobody special.

It broke the link, too

http://www.scstatehouse.net/scconstitution/a01.htm

by Watching (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 314 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 3:17:42 PM
 


 I like to watch. I am not a wage slave.
B York I like to watch. I am not a wage slave.

secret vote counting

 

Article II Section 1 says just exactly what the author of this post says it says.

Check it out 

by B York (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 86 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 3:29:20 PM
 


10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,
Gallaher10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,

I agree with Jim

You need to get to the point on at least the first page of a rant.

I had no idea as to your point, other than you believed something was unconstitutional but did not want us to know what was unconstitutional.

Sad to point out that the Republicans and Democrats don't even have to hold an "election" to pick who they want to run. It can be done in a smoke filled back room with large amounts of money changing hands. If you have joined a "party" you are the problem. Primary elections are not covered by the constitution, they are governed by the party.  Everyone knows that if you are not in a "party" you have no chance of winning or even being placed on a ballet so they join in with the corruption.

HA,HA, You really thought the public picked elected officials. They sure have you fooled.

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 529 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 3:16:03 PM
 


 I like to watch. I am not a wage slave.
B York I like to watch. I am not a wage slave.

Secret vote counting

 

I didn't read the whole article, but enough to get the gist of it.

I live here in South Carolina. While I keep a copy of the U.S. Constitution close at hand, sad to say, I haven't read the S.C. Constitution in years and didn't notice or think about the secret vote counting clause.

I expect soon to hear the Republican attorney general render an opinion arguing that the plain language of the Constitution doesn't really mean what it means. In the alternative, I expect some prominent local pol to be offering an ammendment in favor of secret vote counting.

I can't wait to hear those arguments.

by B York (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 86 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 3:23:46 PM
 


Mark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department.

Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to re...

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Mark AdamsMark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department.

Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to re...

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What's the problem with America?

What’s the problem with America? A few are demonstrated clearly in these comments.

Jim correctly points out that one of the problems is the lack of attention span. It seems almost helpful. Get to the point, as in only one?

Watching then demonstrates a startling lack of attention by not only missing the link to Article II, Section 1, but also by missing Article II entirely when he looks at the South Carolina Constitution. By the way, Article II is titled "Right of Suffrage" as in voting. Naturally, it’s also listed right after Article I in the table of contents. Watching is not really that watchful.

Gallaher then demonstrates that he is apathetic as well as unable to understand that counting votes in secret violates Article II, Section 1, of South Carolina’s Constitution which states, "the ballots shall not be counted in secret." He says, "I had no idea as to your point, other than you believed something was unconstitutional but did not want us to know what was unconstitutional."

He also attacks my article as a rant and implies that I’m a fool for thinking that voters should have a say in electing our leaders. He seems to be just fine with some sort of feudal form of control by those in power. "HA, HA," (sic) he says to you fools who care about elections.

Did I raise any other points in my article other than that South Carolina’s election system violates its Constitution? Did anyone get the point I raised about lack of competition in our educational system? How about the point that people who want to take and hold power engage in misinformation? How about the harm which flows the lack of power to control our government?

It seems curious that Jim, Watching, and Gallaher would really want to take their time to be so helpful. Oh, that’s right. Their comments were not helpful. Instead, they served to undermine and distract from the points which I raised. What were those points? Read the article and see. Open your mind to what the masters of illusion and distraction don’t want you to know.

By the way, there is a great commentary on the Brad Blog today where Brad points out how laughable the attacks are which have been made on him for daring to point out that counting votes in secret is no way to run a democracy. It’s here http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5542 I must warn you though. He makes more than one point, and he favors democracy over the illusion of it.

by Mark Adams (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 90 comments) on Monday, January 14, 2008 at 5:24:43 PM
 


None
brantlNone

Factual article, but get over yourself

Jim said nothing but that basically if you want your article read, get to the point that your headline makes quicker. Nothing but constructive criticism there, bud. Gallaher basically says the same thing. If you want to make an impression, this slow-motion punch isn't going to get it. Period.

by brantl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 at 2:53:38 PM
 


10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,
Gallaher10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,

I'm sure you were well meaning.

I'm  sure you are well meaning with your rant. The problem with your article is that it did not get to the point in the first or second paragraph. If you have not noticed there are thousands of articles written each day and not all can be read. Your title at least brought some interest for me to look closer at your allegation.

I have sat through many court cases where the person lost because they never got to the point. And reading this I understand why the courts demand a format for filling cases. You placed your argument before clearly stating the alleged constitutional problem.

The title of your article is "South Carolina Elections Are Unconstitutional" Then you don't say why you believe this until the second page. Rambling does not make your argument any more impressive or important. Get to the point. I don't want to feel like I'm reading an infomercial waiting for them to spill the grand price at the end only to think what a rip off.

Reading your article made me feel like I just wasted five minutes of my life that I could have been doing something, be it anything else. I'm not short of attention just short of patients. 90% of the time I only read the headline and the brief. I don't have the time or patients to hear everyone's problems with your government. They are far to vast and it would take hundreds of years to enumerate.

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 529 comments) on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 at 1:36:45 PM
 


None
brantlNone

Gallaher and Freeman are right...

You took way too long to get to your point. Don't ever try to write flyers, Mark, you'll cause pedestrian traffic jams.

by brantl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 at 2:46:29 PM
 


John is a family physician in a small Iowa rural community. He is happily married, the father of two children, and active in his Christian church. His hobbies include photography and tinkering with computers. His passions are philosophy, science, and the incredibly critical point in the space-time continuum that is Now.
John BoweryJohn is a family physician in a small Iowa rural community. He is happily married, the father of two children, and active in his Christian church. His hobbies include photography and tinkering with computers. His passions are philosophy, science, and the incredibly critical point in the space-time continuum that is Now.

Excellent point!

Although I have to agree with the criticism of your expository style, I think you have done a great service by discovering another serious flaw in our election system. Maybe you could write a summation that enumerates the main points with links to the full article? Thank you and keep up the good work defending our constitution!

by John Bowery (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 20 comments) on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 at 3:14:23 PM
 


Mark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department.

Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to re...

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Mark AdamsMark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department.

Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to re...

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If you want to strike a real blow for election integrity, STEP INTO THE FRAY that I started in South Carolina. Help push for the legal action which could KILL SECRET VOTE COUNTING!!!

 

Read An Open Letter to Senator John Edwards: The Constitution Prohibits Secret Vote Counting! Will You Take Action? http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_mark_a___080117_an_open_letter_to_se.htm

 

Article II, § 1 of the Constitution of South Carolina states, "the ballots shall not be counted in secret." Computers count inside their case, with no oversight, just like they are told to do, unless of course, they malfunction or are hacked.  Can you see a computer count?

 

This is the election integrity jackpot, a Constitutional provision prohibiting counting votes in secret! No more need to refer to case law, evidence, or logic to argue against secret vote counting, at least in South Carolina.

 

Let’s focus our attention and effort where it can really do some good!!! Also, we need help in Florida to catch them again!!! Join the effort that I started. We need leaders, and we need volunteers in order to make this too big to ignore! Check out PROJECT VOTE COUNT and spread the word like Paul Revere!!!

 

STEP INTO THE FRAY WHEN YOU CAN DO THE MOST to save our country, to protect our freedom, to protect our right to elect our leaders, and to protect the future of our children and grandchildren! PLEASE HELP KEEP THE LIGHT OF LIBERTY BURNING! GO TO http://www.votecount2008.org/ and JOIN NOW!

by Mark Adams (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 90 comments) on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 3:11:23 PM
 

 

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