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What's confusing is that pro-Obama people AND those who see the CIA involved both want the US to stay out.
Where are you on the CIA involvement, John? And frankly, all my observations are limp attempts at trying to put this together. I'm not there yet like some.
Kusumi offers an excellent, nuanced reply:
Back and Forth
Rob, there are two approaches to this. One is like you say, as we turn it over in our minds and go back and forth, there's confusion.
Some have accused Mousavi of being 'pro-globalization,' hence closer to the NWO, and so these most rabid, anti-NWO folks prefer Ahmadinejad over Mousavi.
Personally, I don't like taking sides in the election; behind the scenes, it's a power struggle of Khamenei versus Rafsanjani. The presidential candidates are convenient members of those respective blocs. To me, that means it's a power struggle of corrupt dudes versus corrupt dudes, and I'm not convinced that all would be sweetness and light under Mousavi.
So yes, I have my reservations about Mousavi, but it is a huge leap from there to being pro-Ahmadinejad. Does the CIA probably like Mousavi and what's happening? Sure. Can their hand be in the mix somewhere? Yes, but if so they are alongside one bloc in the power struggle, and it's clearly an Iranian affair. In fact, both blocs are theocratic and Islamic.
So, if you are an American who doesn't like Islamic theocracies, you can't win by taking sides in this struggle.
However, I said at the outset there's two approaches. When bullets start flying, then there's a second approach with moral clarity: Civilians should not be on the receiving end of bullets from their own government, period. The China Support Network is part of the international human rights community, and we've commented before when a different country (Uzbekistan) had a massacre.
As the Tiananmen community, we're sensitive to what civilians are going through on the receiving end of a bloody crackdown. And that's wrong, period, full stop. (Voila - moral clarity. See the China Support Network statement at chinademocracy.blogspot.com.)
This still doesn't answer the question of who's supporting who. It adds to the confusion by, appropriately bringing in Rafsanjani and Khamenei.
This is complicated stuff. I don't know enough yet. I like John's take that what is most important is how the citizens are treated.
But here's what I'm pulling from this.
The people who are seeing this as a CIA/US instigated operation tend to be pro-Palestinian and anti Israel. And/or they tend to be anti-Obama far left or Libertarian leaning. These would include many of the people who supported Nader, McKinney, Barr, Gravel, perhaps Kucinich... There are also those who are involved with 911 Truth and those who are concerned with the New World Order (NWO) and, further out there, "the Illuminati." Throw in the continuum of anti-zionists and anti-semites.
