Some of you may remember an article I posted last month on the wonders, and suppression, of Brown’s Gas / HHO (monatomic and diatomic Hydrogen and Oxygen, cheaply disassociated from water, created on-board a vehicle or at home):
The response to this article was good, and many people were made aware of an important energy source that would be a cheap, clean, and viable alternative to oil… If only our Universities studied it openly and the veil of suppression and secrecy that surrounds Brown’s Gas / HHO were lifted.
But there are other potential uses for HHO besides fuel for vehicles, some less controversial, and some very controversial. The first being as a welding/cutting gas: This is widely being done now, and has been for many years since Professor Yull Brown first sold his manufacturing rights to a company in China named NORINCO (after first being rigorously suppressed in Australia and the U.S.). The NORINCO torch systems use Brown’s power-efficient electrolyzer design to create the gas, and dispense it though a cutting/welding torch. The effects of using HHO for this are very unusual: As previously mentioned, HHO directly interacts with the substance being burned… The temperature of the flame wholly depends on what it touches. Tungsten can be sublimated at over 6000 deg. C, yet in the open air touching nothing, the flame is cool enough to quickly run a finger through it. Besides the obvious uses of brazing, cutting, and surface welding of metals; burning substances with Brown’s Gas have other, more unique possibilities… Some so strange, mainstream science has no clear explanations for them.
Yull Brown was the first to discover that HHO gas could be used to transmute elements. Yes, transmute, change, an element into another element…. This wild claim sounds not so bizarre when looking at the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency's (CEAA), and the Atomic Energy of Canada Limited’s (AECL) studies on the use of Brown’s Gas to neutralize radioactive waste. Canada is seriously considering treating her radioactive waste with Brown’s Gas to remove the radioactivity. Tests have shown that exposing a radioactive substance to an HHO flame for a period of time can remove up to 99% of the dangerous radiation. Brown first discovered this, and patented the process more than 20 years ago. There are rumors that China is using this technique now to treat nuclear waste. The process seems quite effective, and relatively easy and safe considering the alternatives (incineration at ultra-high temperatures, or underground /undersea storage). One would imagine that citizens living near Yucca Mountain in Nevada (proposed site for storage of the U.S.’s nuclear waste), would be very interested in hearing more about this technology…. However, like anything else having to do with Brown’s Gas / HHO, the public has not been informed.
The below link is a monograph discussing the studies and proposal to the Canadian government, by a group that includes Col. Tom Beardon (U.S. Army Retired), a noted physicist and one of the most well-known and respected scientists and theorists in alternative energy:
When burning Brown’s Gas, the only byproduct is ultra-pure water. But this resultant water apparently has strange properties of its own… Many believe that it has very strong health benefits when drank or used to surface-treat wounds; although there is yet no hard proof for this. What appears to be certain is that the molecular geometry as well as the electron and magnetic charges of the re-combined water are subtly different than “regular” water. Again, rigorous study by our Universities is needed to learn the truth… However, the scientific mainstream will apparently not do so, at least openly, despite many examples of empirical evidence.
Brown’s Gas / HHO is still, in many people’s opinion, most important as a fuel; a cheap and clean alternative to oil. We have previously discussed HHO’s use as a fuel booster… Allowing the primary fuel to be burned with much greater efficiency. This is due to the very high flame propagation rate of Hydrogen. Most people do not realize just how inefficient an internal combustion engine is… Perhaps 35% efficient… The rest of the energy being sent down the exhaust as un-combusted wasted fuel, or converted into heat within the motor due to slow combustion causing the pistons to work against one another. This is mainly because our car manufacturers INSIST on injecting slower-burning liquid gasoline (or Diesel) into the cylinders without first vaporizing the fuel. Vaporizing gasoline greatly increases the burn rate and efficiency; by as much as 400% or more, and increases mileage dramatically. But although the first patents for this came out in the 1920’s (snapped-up by auto manufacturers and shelved ever since), very little has been done on this. Cars with properly calibrated fuel vapor / plasma systems can theoretically get as much as 200 MPG or more…. Today, M.I.T. is studying plasma-state carbon fuels (extremely heated with RF energy and therefore disassociated into atoms and smaller molecules that burn faster and more efficiently), and is claiming great promise for them: Something that has been well known in many circles for over 80 years, now…. Sadly it’s taken that long for this important technology to reach mainstream science.
There is much evidence that the auto manufacturers are in league with the energy cartels and the government to discourage efficient use of petroleum fuels. Like the vaporizing patents and HHO boosters, technology to greatly increase gas mileage has been available for many years; but the public has not been aware of it. As an example, let us look back 100 years to the Ford Model T: It was rated, honestly rated, at “27 MPG”. That is better than the average claimed mileage of today’s new vehicles… ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER. Even the government appears to be in on the “fix”: In the late 1970’s; U.S. Federal legislation to require catalytic converters for all cars, and to forbid the tampering of car exhaust, were passed. Ever since, people who wish to vaporize their fuel before burning it have been severely hampered, as using the heat of the exhaust is the best and probably safest method for doing so. Ironically, if the gasoline were burned efficiently via vaporization, there would be absolutely no need for the catalytic converters… The pollution levels of an efficient engine drop to near-zero. The government’s standards for gas mileage are a joke, and everyone in the industry knows it. Their own mileage tests are also a joke… No vehicles off the showroom floor or when “broken in”, will ever exceed the published mileage figures printed on the sticker (without an HHO booster or vaporizer being installed, anyway): In fact, it is a lucky consumer who gets 85% of those mileage figures without modification. The oil companies compound the problem, by deliberately changing their gasoline formulas randomly and often, also regionally, so that there is no one set formula in use anywhere in the U.S. ; which makes it very difficult to properly calibrate a fuel vaporization system for best performance. Certain additives are mixed into the gasoline, which also hampers the effectiveness of vaporizing gas. These additives and random changes to the formulas have no other apparent purpose than to discourage vaporization. It is clear to many that the oil corporations, the car companies, and the government work together to insure that as much petroleum as possible be consumed in this country… Despite the false “Initiatives” and cynical do-nothing lip service given to “green technologies” by politicians of both mainstream Parties. And notice that the alternatives allowed to be studied and touted, like solar, wind, or electric membrane Hydrogen Cells are carefully chosen to always be less effective, less reliable, and more expensive than using oil.
Cheaply-produced HHO gas, or another great new technological leap, magnetic motor/generators producing electricity without fuel, would be a wondrous gift to us all: Especially to the poor who can hardly afford energy costs. When a high-energy, utterly clean fuel such as Brown’s Gas / HHO can be made by the consumer themselves safely and at low cost…. Either on-board a vehicle or at home…. The possibilities for improving our lives are nearly endless. HHO can be made cheaply from seawater… or any water. It can desalinate or purify water. It can be used to entirely fuel a vehicle, or as a booster to greatly increase efficiency and nearly eliminate pollutants from exhaust. Its flame can fuse metal and brick together, and change rock into semi-precious stones. It can even remove deadly radiation from nuclear waste and transmute elements. Magnet-based motors can charge batteries, run loads, and even entire households, without any traditional power input… By apparently tapping into “Zero-Point” or “Radiant” energy (a new and poorly understood form of “cold” energy that is all around us). These are only the things we know about from empirical data stumbled upon by inventors, and a handful of studies done outside of the mainstream: Imagine what could be learned if our great Universities gave them honest and open widespread study! But they refuse to… WHY?
There are several possibilities as to “Why”. The most obvious comes with “following the money”: Coal and oil cartels, who together secretly form illegal monopolies with tremendous political clout, would stand to lose untold trillions of Dollars; not to mention their very considerable power over the masses. Other reasons are less conspiratorial, but whether they are deliberate or not, the results are still the same. Chief of these is the unwillingness of the mainstream scientific community to accept anything that smacks of “energy over-unity” (meaning, something that extracts more energy than is observably put into it, “breaking” the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics). The laws of thermodynamics are over 140 years old. They do not take into account “curved space-time”, or even the existence of atoms…. Yet alone anything like “Zero-Point” or “Radiant” Energy. Yet the scientific mainstream is a slave to these outdated Laws, as if it were religious dogma. Well, that god has been proven false. There are literally hundreds of devices, dozens of easily reproduced lab experiments, and many new theorems in Physics and Chemistry, which prove that “over-unity” is both possible, and even engineer-able. For instance: Everyone has a refrigerator at home. This is, at heart, a “heat pump”. Heat pumps are by nature “over-unity” devices… At least 300% efficient or so in the average (..BTW, they could be much more efficient, up to 700%, if they were “allowed” to be). So the laws of thermodynamics are not quite so sure, or unassailable…. Every home has a device that breaks them every day. However, tell that to a scientist and head of a University faculty department who fears to be made a fool… Who worries he or she could be made to look like an evil ogre who helped work to deny Humanity a means to insure peace and prosperity for all; by their previous refusal to accept even the possibility of these new technologies and theorems being valid… Human nature would dictate that many persons would continue the denial as long as possible simply in self-interest. Scientists, and especially those in Academia, are after all, “humans”, too. The older generations, to a large extent, will not willingly accept new inventions that break the old laws. But what is of prime importance is that we educate the new generations so that they can overcome the barriers of old and rigid concepts… And to think freely: Free from “religious” dogma, and free from government and corporate pressures such as funding and the “interests of national security” (in reality, “energy cartel security”). These new scientists will be our hope for the future…. And America’s only hope to regain its momentum as the leader in scientific discovery.
The brilliant theorist and writer Sir Arthur Clarke once wrote of the sequence of events in mainstream sciences’ acceptance of new ideas. He expressed them as having four stages:
For those inteested in the physics of "zero point energy" (or "energy from the vacuum" as prefers), the best site I have seen is Col. (Dr.) Tom Beardon's. There are also many examples of "over-unity" devices listed and explained there. I am not proming his videos, but they really are excellent! Besides, there is tons of useful info there for free ;)
This site sells pulsers for making HHO cheaply (kits or pre-built), and has other usefull info like schematics ad parts lists for doing t yourself. Pulsers are not required (you can just use DC power off the alternator for the electrolyzer), but it makes the power efficiency at least 10 times better (...allowing much higher HHO production without heating the water too much). Again, I am not affilliated. with them or any commercial enterprise in the HHO or "free energy"/ ZPE field. If anyone has other or better suppliers please post ;) :
Interesting site on Cold Fusion, which has been proven to NOT be a fraud, and has been reproduced at several Universities and commercial labs around the world now (why havn't we heard THAT?! ):
What can we do besides telling our friends, family, and co-workers; to help move these important technologies into the mainstream? How can we "force" Universities to start researching them seriously, or "make" the mainstream media cover them? How can we get our elected officials to work towards removing the suppression that these new technologies suffer from, and fund open and honest research?
And what is the reason behind the government's part of the suppression: Legitimate National Security concerns... Or acting as a "shield" for the energy cartels?
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Steve Windisch (jibbguy) (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 216 comments)
on Friday, May 30, 2008 at 1:56:50 PM
i gotta say i've been following opednews and i really enjoy your articles progressive nature. all this hho and extraterrestrial talk makes me think humanity is going to make it after all :)
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lakeoftea AKA dooderonomy (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments)
on Friday, May 30, 2008 at 7:24:18 PM
I don't know whether it may be of interest to you, but on http://www.justice-publications.com/GRAVITY.pdf it shows a patent application by which a simple weight can product clean free energy for as long as you want - for the next fifty million years, if you can want for that long, and free for anyone to do, so long as you don't borrow money to do it.
Why should we have to work just to pay a few greedy monopolists simply for the fact of our living. Do they think we are farm animals? To hell with them.
And good luck with your HHO. It will be interesting to see whether you can provide more energy than the electrolysis takes.
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amazin (34 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 400 comments)
on Sunday, June 1, 2008 at 5:20:22 AM
Thx for the article, interesting use of a pendulum-type inertia/gravity machine. On board a ship may be the best use for them, as the big and heavy size would not be much of a problem, and the movement of waves could help keep it energized.
Regarding the power efficiency of an HHO electrolyzer: if the circuit has a properly tuned square wave oscillator ("pulser") to power the unit verses straight "DC", the power usage is vastly lower, perhaps 10 times so.... With an energy efficiency certainly greater than 100%. Since when mounted on-board a vehicle, the alternator can handle the drain of making the needed current without access additional drag in horsepower, the HHO is created at overunity, "for free" ;)
This is the most commonly help misnomer about HHO electrolyzers, that they are not energy efficient. But the incorporation of highly efficient pulsing oscillator circuits (pulsed and gated square waves, carefully tuned and timed specifically to the electrode plates' distance from one another to match their unique "capacitance" underwater) has ended that question decisivly.
This is not really an issue for the commonly used "Boosters" even when using straight DC, because large amounts of HHO are not needed, the fuel mix can be as small as 3% HHO and still get beneficial results. But the issue becomes much more important for trying to fuel the entire vehicle on HHO (...perhaps 3 Liters of HHO per minute in volume). Some who have done this successfully using a pulser and choked transformer to raise the pulses to over 100 V have been able to create enough HHO using less than 15 Amps (15A x 12 Volts = 180 Watts).
Perhaps what is more important than power for the simple DC boosters is heat: They get can very hot, much hotter/faster than pulsed units generally do. Because there is an odd synergy, that when the pulsers are properly tuned and running at best efficiency, that the generated heat goes down to next to nothing (and the power usage drops significantly, too). This is because ideally the system works on voltage, not current ;)
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Steve Windisch (jibbguy) (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 216 comments)
on Sunday, June 1, 2008 at 10:23:02 AM
"Because there is an odd synergy, that when the pulsers are properly tuned and running at best efficiency, that the generated heat goes down to next to nothing (and the power usage drops significantly, too). This is because ideally the system works on voltage, not current ;)"
This is the point you will be trying to reach when you build one, but it will prove to be elusive. There will always be some little factor getting in the way. If you ever reach it, run the gas to a chainsaw motor driving an alternator, and let's see it run by itself. We don't even need the car attached. Just a motor that runs off a jar of water will be fine. Please provide a link to your video.
When you do, I'll help you get rich because I have the equipment and the expertise. We can sell backyard power generators to people and retire as millionaires within a year. No patents needed.
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John Danforth (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 98 comments)
on Sunday, June 1, 2008 at 4:33:23 PM
HHO is 1 example of a range of mechanisms that are able to access the Static Fields of our planet.
Planetary Inertial Field generators.
In 1906 Tesla demonstrated over unity machines, and was put out of business by the powers that be.
Two top scientists of the day (1906), Gustave Lebon and Alan Trouton both speculated on where the energy comes from, and were correct; The planets Static field.
These machines operate on relativistic principles in which acceleration produces a particle or wave 'Clock rate variation' at the sub atomic level. This clock rate variation produces a destabilization of the nucleus which causes the 'Static' field to pour energy into it to maintain coherence within the inertial frame of reference, 4th dimension.
Kaluza-Klein explained it mathematically in 1938. To tap into the power of the planet in motion you first need to identify the location were the 'Torque' in the machine is produced.
When you access the 5th dimension you can then produce torque, used to extract energy, at the 'Plane of the Dimension.'
The late Dr Mallove (1947-2004) most likely figured this out in early 2004.
Dr Henry Moray suspected as much in 1930. He thought that the production of over unity energy had something to do with the different sizes of basic particles. Different sizes produce different acceleration rate and produce different clock rates.
Sounds complex, but it is real understandable.
Our nuclear war fighting elite have blocked research into this entire area of STATIC FIELD TECHNOLGY.
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Patrick (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 415 comments)
on Sunday, June 1, 2008 at 4:15:34 PM
On increasing the burn rate of fuel in an internal combustion engine -
Burn rate does not correspond to efficiency. Compression ratio does, somewhat, however with higher compression you need a fuel with a slower burn rate to prevent detonation. Detonation is what happens when there is an explosion rather than a controlled burn. It is deadly to a normal piston engine.
I've only seen one website with enough honest information to show what they did to achieve their mileage claims. That site advocated altering the oxygen sensor (for reasons that don't make sense) to fool the computer into running leaner. On my car, I can program the computer to do the same thing, which gives similar results, only without the jar of water. My engine is modified to put out over 400 horsepower, yet gets around 26 mpg on the highway by running lean and with maximum timing advance. Doing that runs the engine closer to detonation and requires the use of quality fuel, and so obviously would void any warranty. The reason the factory doesn't ship them running lean is because lean mixtures generate NO2 which is regulated, and because they need a safety factor for production tolerances and bad gas. If you run too lean, the mix burns too fast, you get detonation, and you get a hole in the piston very quickly. In a matter of seconds or minutes, depending on how bad it is.
On efficiency and a conspiracy between auto manufacturers and big oil -
One of the reasons for the 14% efficiency of piston engines is the fact that they have to compress the mixture, and that takes energy. But 14% isn't bad compared to other methods, mainly because the fuel is energy dense and portable.
Now just read the headlines in the papers; domestic auto companies are closing plants, laying people off, losing millions of dollars because of increases in the cost of energy. Gas prices cause people to drive less and switch away from their profitable products. Energy costs affect the cost of everything, and raw materials reflect mostly the cost of the energy it takes to produce them (lots of energy). Copper has tripled, steel has more than doubled, and no relief in sight. Well gee, wouldn't now be a good time for them to break out these top secret energy-making or energy-saving devices? Wouldn't they make a killing in the market if they had one of those? How much would the oil companies have to kick back to them to coerce them into going bankrupt over energy costs? (Which would mean they wouldn't have to go bankrupt, wouldn't it?) The argument might sound more plausible if they were making money hand over fist; it loses credibility when the entire industry is on its death bed.
The Model T got pretty good mileage but it wasn't very efficient. A modern engine with the same horsepower using a computerized fuel / ignition system would get better mileage. The car you put it into would be a lot heavier due to regulations on crashworthiness (and an encyclopedia full of other regulations). You wouldn't buy one. Too slow.
A catalytic converter generates MORE heat. There is nothing stopping you from capturing some heat to vaporize fuel if you think you can gain something from it. Watch out for detonation, though.
Your argument about fuel additives changing misses the point. The mix is changed regionally and seasonally because of regulations, and to provide better combustion in summer or winter. If they didn't do it, people would complain about the crappy gas. Not to mention the mandated addition of taxohol which is helping to starve children in poor countries worldwide.
And additives to prevent vaporization are required by law, to cut down on pollution. Besides which, you wouldn't want your tank of gas to go stale in a few weeks, would you? You can run your car on toluene and xylene, which make up most of the gasoline. But check out how fast they evaporate. Not suitable for motor vehicle fuel without a bunch of stuff to hold them in liquid state.
On over-unity devices -
If you can build an over-unity device, you can take the excess energy generated, capture it, and return it to the input so that it can power itself plus whatever load you want to apply. Whether it is a device that produces more HHO potential energy than it took to crack it from water or a magnet-motor or a magical refrigerator, none of this is high-tech. Anyone with a machine shop can build one. Build one and show it off. The problem with all of these schemes is that there is some secret, being hidden by the conspirators, and if you send money, your kit won't work because you did something wrong and didn't fiddle with it enough, and the secret to making one work reliably has been buried by the conspirators, or someone is trying to steal the patent and the inventor won't reveal details until he gets the patent but the patent office is in on it, too. Just remember, there are lots of machine shop owners and engineers and motor builders and electronic techinicians and physists who would love to help humankind and get rich in the process. Too bad those fellas never stumbled upon the secret and released it into the public domain. Bottom line - if mother nature allowed over-unity, everything would burn up. The closest thing we have to it is, you guessed it, the sun. And it gives us energy for free.
Your energetic articles are inspiring, but I have a challenge for you: Build one and prove it!
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John Danforth (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 98 comments)
on Sunday, June 1, 2008 at 4:26:30 PM
For a reaction to occur in HHO gas, the gas must first return to it's 'Ground state configuration (gsc).' The over speed acceleration produces a 'microburst' accleration which then produces the clock rate variation and the particles temporarily depart the 4th dimension and access the 5th dimension.
This explains why the temperatures reached in these machines has been such a mystery for so many years. The reaction is primarily chemical, yet the secondary reaction, the acceleration produced by the return to original gsc, is the cause of the Static field reaction, which provides the real source of over unity energy demonstrated by these machines and gases.
Think if you where on a bus and had a lit cigar; if you opened the window the smoke would flow out into 'the atomosphere;' this is what is happeneing with radioactive waste. It is transfered into the 5th dimension, 'space.'
Up-down, right-left, forward-back. 3 dimensions. Sititing on the bus you are then in the 4th dimesion, and the road is the 5th dimension.
The difference with the road is that there is a 'Friction' torque point, whereas with space there is no Friction point to produce torque.
This is where the particle clock rate variation causes a difference of clock rate within the smallest mass of particles to cause the Static Fields-14 of them known so far-to pour energy into the nucleus. The planet is in motion at 18.5 miles per secomd. The available energy is clean, unlimited and waiting for us to develop it.
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Patrick (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 415 comments)
on Sunday, June 1, 2008 at 4:35:38 PM
"The planet is in motion at 18.5 miles per secomd. The available energy is clean, unlimited and waiting for us to develop it"
Please don't invent any devices using this form of power. If you do, they will slow down the earth's travel, and the earth will fall into the sun, killing us all.
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John Danforth (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 98 comments)
on Sunday, June 1, 2008 at 4:44:00 PM
I don't believe a fully-HHO fuel will work properly in a 2-stroke engine, unless an oil dispenser is added somehow... A tough problem i have been looking around for an answer for, because i would like to run my old outboard motor on it without burning it up ;)
When i get back into the grunt work and build my next electrolyzer and pulser, i'll be sure to link a vid for u... However i suspect some would claim it to be a fraud anyway ;)
Iv'e seen the amount of HHO coming out of the small unit i built, exploded it... I know it works. That's good enough for me, and i have no interest in trying to become a millionaire from it. All i would ask is that the people who read these articles look into it further, and ask themselves: "WHY is it that there have been no studies done in the mainstream on this, if only to prove it false?"
Regarding compression, and explosion in an engine: The latter causes the former.... the fuel is exploding, anyway. Mixing in the HHO with the gas (or using straight gasoline that is vaporized) makes it all burn faster, and much more completely... As does a super-lean misture, to a lesser extent. With the burn over in a shorter period, the engine gains efficiency because the explosion does not last longer than the best model of the compression stroke... so there is much less losses to heat, unburned fuel blowing out the exhaust cycle, and the wasted energy of pistons working against one another. The pollution levels, including the Nox components, are all much lower, too. Engines trying to run on high levels of HHO (or completely on it), as well as ones using plasma/vaporized fuels should have their timing advanced to best take advantage of this, all the way up to "TDC" in the case of all-HHO is suggested by several who have done it. However, for a booster this is not required.
The reason the sites talk about fooling the oxygen sensor is because of the rich/lean mix as you said, rapping the aluminum foil around it is just a quick & dirty way without re-programming the computer, which is beyond most ppl's desire or capability. Besides, it makes it easy to go back to regular gas if the thing breaks ;)
I wasnt suggesting that the Model T was a better car than those we have today, only that it is utterly RIDICULOUS that in 100 years we have an average new vehicle mileage that is lower that it, lol.... Detroit executives and the government should be hanging their heads in shame. They really have no excuse: The technology was out there, and for a long time... But they choose to make cars as fuel-inefficient as possible, without being too obvious about it, lol.
Again i would ask, why no University studies to debunk HHO if it is so "full of it"? You can see thousands of studies, on a myriad of subjects, on the web at any time. But not for something that has been touted as being a major breakthrough for many years. Things are not suppressed for no reason. We have been waiting to see these University studies... Over 20 years now. As long as it remains deliberatly suppressed, we won't see them in the future, either.
This great series of 10 vids by Roy McAlister is very good on running an engine on Hydrogen; as well as the basic theory of an ICE. Before anyone out there calls THIS guy a fraud, i strongly suggest they check his credentials out first ;)
Thank you very much for this link to hydrogen as a fuel. Most inspiring. What a marvellous series of articles.
But doesn't it show the accursed influence of finance on our world? 'They', who have their 'investments' in oil, would sooner see the trashing of our world than let us have a clean planet with free or cheaper energy - Just as they will start wars and sell arms to both sides, simply for the profit they derive.
You know, doesn't it make you want shuffle such vermin out of circulation? - Say, put them in a zoo as the outdated malignant apes they are?
Er, what say we do just that - Make our own fuels and avoid theirs, and put the malefactors behind bars for their ill intentions toward the rest?
Incidentally, that gravity-inertia power generator is designed to run at sea, converting the sun's energy via wind and waves, with a hundred square miles of rough seas producing enough energy for the planet - free and ad infinitum.
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amazin (34 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 400 comments)
on Monday, June 2, 2008 at 7:20:33 AM
I don't know if you're still watching this thread, but the compression in a piston engine is mechanical. The compression ratio is the ratio between compressed volume and uncompressed volume.
There is a difference between a fast burn and an explosion. A fast burn happens over a longer time and can be controlled. An explosion (detonation) is a sudden, uncontrolled burn that propagates through the mixture at supersonic speed, as a shock wave. Most engines fire the mixture at some time before the piston reaches top dead center, so as to put the peak pressure at around 13 degrees after top dead center in order to get the best mechanical advantage out of the push on the piston. The timing in your car engine is varied for different load conditions and this variation is necessary to keep that pressure peak happening at the place where it gives the best mechanical advantage.
Piston engines cannot be more efficient with a too-fast burn, because pressure rises almost instantaneously and then drops almost as quickly. What you want and need is a push on the piston, not a hammer blow. Think of it this way -- assume you could swing a sledge hammer to deliver the same amount of energy as you could deliver in ten seconds of pushing against a car. If you push the car, you have a chance to get it moving. If you whack it with a sledge hammer with the same amount of force, a lot of energy will be wasted in rebound effects or deformation of metal. That's why higher octane fuels don't make an engine put out more power, but engines designed to take advantage of higher octane can be designed to put out more power per cubic inch displacement.
So if you want to make an engine run on a stoichiometric mixture of hydrogen and oxygen, something may need to be done to slow the burn down. I've not researched flame front velocity in a hydrogen burn, but if it is faster than gasoline, definitely you will need to retard the timing from its gasoline setting, or the hammer blow will happen while the piston is still rising, and that's a Bad Thing.
Now let's assume for a moment that HHO burns at the same speed as a stoichiometric mixture of pump gas and air (which it probably doesn't). And that it has approximately the same energy content as the gas/air misture (probably not). That would mean that the compression ratio and timing for an engine are suitable to burn the mixture (again, probably not). If that is so, then an old two stroke motor would best be left for future development because of the lubrication issue, as you mention. You would be better off using a more modern one that has oil injection built in already. But I suggest starting with an old lawn mower first. You can get one cheap, you can find a way to mount a battery and jar to it, and a four stroke engine avoids an awful lot of the complicated engineering that two stroke motors have built into them to optimize them for the fuel they use.
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John Danforth (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 98 comments)
on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 7:45:58 AM
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