INTERVIEW with: Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele are the nation's most honored investigative reporting team, and authors of the New York Times bestseller America: What Went Wrong ?
This is part one of a two part interview
thanks to Don Caldarazzo for help with transcript checking.
The audio for this podcast is here.
speaker 1 Rob Kall, Interviewer
Speaker 2/ Donald L. Barlett, Interviewee
Speaker 3/ James B. Steele, Interviewee
Rob Kall: My guests tonight are Donald Barlett. And James Steele.
They're the authors of "Betrayal of the American Dream", a new book that is just... really kicks butt. Donald Barlett and James Steele are the nation's most honored investigative reporting team, and they're authors of the New York Times bestseller "America: What Went Wrong?" They've worked together for more than forty years, first at the Philadelphia Inquirer (1971--1997), then at Time magazine (1997--2006), and now Vanity Fair.
Welcome to the show!
James Steele: Great to be with you, Rob.
Donald Barlett: Good to be with you.
Rob Kall: So because there are two of you, maybe you can identify who's speaking first. Just say your first name. Okay? [James agreeing in background]
Okay so I'd like to.. in your book you talk about how in your previous book America: What Went Wrong?, you were accused of being alarmists, and that you actually under-describe what was going to happen and how bad things were going to be. Now, you're describing that, with this devastation of the American Dream and the middle class, there could be a hundred million casualties.
So I think I'd like to start by just getting in depth some definitions of wealth and the middle class, so we can get some baselines.
Donald Barlett: Well, you know everybody has their own definition, but you got to just work within some numbers.