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The Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show Podcast

Robert Fuller on Rankism and Dignitarianism

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Robert Fuller, former president of Oberlin College and author of Somebodies and Nobodies: Overcoming the Abuse of Rank, coined the term "rankism" and is a leader in the worldwide quest for human dignity. (more about Robert Fuller)   

My Questions During the Show:

What is, in a nutshell, your message and goal?

What is dignity and what is the opposite of dignity?

And what is rankism and the dignitarian perspective?

Tie in bottom up to your work. 

Necessary and Unnecessary Hierarchies


Rank is often abused. Is there a difference between rank and power over?

Is there research that shows that abuse of rank and power is not good?

You have a chapter in your book dedicated to models. Why?

How does model building apply to your work with dignity and rank?

Top down power tries to hold on to what i t has. 

it seems that treating people with dignity means giving up some of your power and rank. 

So you are saying that the inflexibility of hierarchy in leadership by Germany contributed to the loss of WWII

Was Washington's stepping down after two terms just good sense, or was it character?

What are the values associated with treating with dignity?

HOw do you know (that predation is decreasing over the past 100 years)?

Stephen Pinker's book

"the power of the nobodies is growing"

Joseph Nye's Future of Power described how everyone  has power because of the internet. 

Power of disruption"   

Civilization took away the connection of tribal or bands when people went into cities. 

Predatory instincts-- and sociopaths and psychopaths

You have a series of articles on "The Self" What's that about?

Series: Why Everything You Know about Your "Self" Is Wrong

Develop of the self in relation to others--that seems related to the research on attachment and attachment disorder.

How does libertarianism and Ayn Rand's approach figure in your model?

Tell me about your novel. 

Dignity appears in four constitutions-- Germany, South Africa, Canada, Bangladesh

How does including dignity in a constitution change the way a country operates?

What would be different in the US if dignity was in the constitution?

You have a new novel , The ROwan Tree, What's it about?

Anything you want people to take away from this interview?

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