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Chris Hedges: State of the World and What to Do About It.

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I interview Chris Hedges about his latest thinking, covering AIPAC, OWS, Arab Spring, the 2012 Elections, Obama, activism and what YOU should do the next few months.

Chris Hedges, a senior fellow at the Nation Institute and Truthdig columnist, is a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and journalist. His books include such bestsellers asEmpire of IllusionDeath of the Liberal Class  and the National Book Award-nominated War Is a Force that Gives Us Meaning. He lives in Princeton, New Jersey. 

Chris Hedges, wearing blue hat and glasses, between Daniel Ellsberg and Margaret Flowers, protesting against the Iraq war, at the gates of the White House, where over 130 were arrested for civil disobedience (photo by rob kall) Others in the pic include Tarak Kauf, Ray McGovern, Deborah Sweet and Medea Benjamin.

Here are some very brief, incomplete notes--- a few quotes and some of the questions I asked.

We celebrate the very figures who are plunging us over the cliff. 

Chris has a new book coming out. 

Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt


Rob: Are there any forms of capitalism that are tolerable?

Rob: What's your take on AIPAC?

Rob: How are Cheney's interests aligned with AIPAC?

The Arab spring has not gone exactly as we expected. What's your take on it, including Libya and Syria?

Rob: Occupy Wall Street ? 

Rob: What would you say to people who voted for Obama in the last election?

Chris: any voting at this point has to be obstructionist-- you vote for green party, you vote for Rocky Anderson, or none of the above. 

What are you going to do in the next few months?

Rob: What gives you hope?

Chris "Hope comes from the capacity to stand up and resist." 

Chris: The most important thing to maintain hope is never to fight for the abstract.

Rob: How do people maintain contact with the oppressed?

Rob: What would you like to tell listeners to do in the next couple months to make a difference?

Rob: Any advice on how people can get started?

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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Anarchism, Occupy & by Joe Giambrone on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 at 1:14:45 PM
"Stop investing their energy in the formal mechani... by Joe Giambrone on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 at 1:51:09 PM
That Chris and Rob know what I should do.   ... by BFalcon on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 at 3:28:50 PM
Chris "Hope comes from the capacity to stand up an... by Richard McGinnis on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 at 4:22:35 PM
Chris "Hope comes from the capacity to stand up an... by Richard McGinnis on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 at 4:23:05 PM
I notice that Chris Hedges raises the issue of cli... by Frank Legge on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 at 11:45:11 PM
click here... by Daniel Geery on Friday, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:47:10 PM
What to do about it runs deeper than simply trying... by David Chester on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 at 8:24:36 AM