These are tough words to write, however, they are meant with no disrespect intended, as I’m a Kucinich supporter myself and acknowledge that you possibly represent America’s only hope in returning our country to its Constitutional mandates, the Rule of Law, and in restoring our country to its constitutional beliefs is our only hope for survival as a free and democratic nation. Since I do believe in you and what you’re attempting to do for our country, I am obliged to speak honestly and bluntly - and to do otherwise would negate my responsibility to my country as well as expressing my support for your Presidential Campaign.
Whether you are right or wrong doesn’t matter, and even the GOP is betting on Hillary Clinton walking away with the Democratic nomination for President - and that would indeed be the death-knell for liberty and democracy in America. Mr. Kucinich, America needs you to win this election, and it’s time to forget party affiliation and set yourself up as an Independent. It’s more than obvious that you’re not bringing in enough campaign contributions, and the American people are not dumb; they see what’s happening, and knowing that Hillary Clinton will be crowned the Democratic Presidential Candidate, whether the people like it or not, is already a foregone conclusion; if you expect people to contribute the kind of money it takes to win the election, then you have to be in a position to win, and running as a Democrat against Clinton is a prerequisite for defeat!
However, if you throw-off the Democratic Party for the time being and run as an Independent, choosing a VP wisely, the “people” will know that you will appear on the Presidential ballots and therefore will actually be in the race and in a position where a real grassroots campaign will allow you to have a chance of winning. You need to purchase enough air time where you can educate the American people and tell them what the MSM refuses to report, and inform the public through a blitz of TV commercials that apprise the American people of the real danger(s) we face as a nation.
Perhaps you should look at “Rocky” Anderson in SLC, Utah, as a viable VP contender, or in the alternative, maybe even Ron Paul, although I believe that Mr. Anderson has the gift of moving the people as evidenced by his recent speech as reprinted in the below article:
America desperately needs candidates that will step-up and be truthful with the public and will pull no punches in fighting for our country. We need men that can communicate the danger we face as a nation, and very few are courageous enough or have the ability to successfully disseminate those facts in the tradition of the great orators of our time, including but not limited to John F. Kennedy! Therein does lay a danger, as we all know what happened to President Kennedy and his brother Bobby, both patriots in the tradition of America, and it will only be someone that actually speaks the truth that will be able to wrestle this Presidency away from the “dynasty families” and the ultra-wealthy that control American politics and our government.
Mr. Kucinich, it’s time to change tactics and make a real run at the Presidency, one that America can get behind and know that you have a real chance of winning the election. If you do anything less Sir, I believe that your bid at the Presidency is doomed, as well as our democracy and freedoms(s). In desperate times, people take desperate measures to insure their success, and the “times” couldn’t be more desperate than they are today, so if you’re truly going to have a chance at winning, changing your bid to an Independent is the only way I can imagine that you will be successful - even if it means teaming-up with Ron Paul or “Rocky” Anderson.
One last note Mr. Kucinich; if you do choose to campaign with a message of truth and power, then it’s advisable that you ramp-up your security ten-fold, as we have seen what happens to real patriots in this country, and no one would wish that upon you except for the traitors whom are doing their best to steal the America Dream and our freedom and democracy right before our eyes - and they feel no compunction against destroying America in the process.
William Cormier
http://justanothercoverup.com/
I am nothing more than a patriotic American that is doing whatever I can to further the cause of democracy, the rule of law, and am absolutely outraged on how the Bush administration is defying our Congress, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! Footnote: I write in a style that I believe is appropriate in today's world where we can't trust the Mainstream News Media, and rather than concentrating on one article alone, which may or may not receive the exposure and emphasis it should, I prefer to meld several relevant stories together, that each taken alone may not expose the entire situation, but when taken-in as a whole, tend to give the reader a better understanding of the subject. One article or story alone does not represent the "Big Picture" - but when several are effectively tied-together it often reveals a trend or broader view of the subject matter that is important to completely understand any given situation. http://justanothercoverup.com/
If anybody could split the Democratic vote and ensure a Republican victory it would be Kucinich running as an independent. Losing would also be the end of his political career. On the other hand a loss in this election could place him in a position analagus to that of Churchill vs. Nevil Chamberlain when Churchill was called for after Chamberlain's appeasment policies failed. So with one like Clinton who will favor the oil multies and continue the occupation until the American public rebells and calls for the previously rejected Kucinich who had it all right from the beginning.
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hoscot (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 29 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 8:32:07 AM
It depends if you believe the independent polls that show Kucinich is favored by the majority of those that vote in Internet polls (Democrat). Galvanize all of those millions that do know the truth and that is a true grassroots campaign. What if he teamed-up with Ron Paul, who has the war chest to make a difference. I'll admit I don't know much about Ron Paul, but do know he has always voted in favor of the Constitution, and he is known as an extremely strict constitutionalist, which isn't a bad trait when you consider what ignoring it has done to our society and the world.
William Cormier
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William Cormier (106 articles, 5 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 266 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 8:47:53 AM
I too had the thought of Dennis Kucinich running as Independent and thought it might be his best chance. I don't think he would suffer in the same vein as Perot because Perot just approached it all wrong. Even with the MSM trying to marginalize DK, there are enough people out there completely fed up with the status quo and sick of losing our security through the compromising of civil rights and freedom. The worst case scenario? That the corporate Fascists will again win out and we get what we deserve because too many still want to sit on their asses and have it come to them.
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HarpMan1224 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 12 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 9:53:02 AM
William wrote: "..only hope in returning our country to its Constitutional mandates,..
Please invest in a copy of the US constitution and read amendment #2.
Then please study Mr. Kucinich's congressional record regarding the US constitution. Here is a clue as to how he feels: " It is time that we ban handguns."
Lastly please retract your silly posting and reframe from any future postings until you educate yourself.
Best regards,
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Mark Bennett (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 47 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 10:56:57 AM
Mark, you lecture on silliness and you don't know how to use "refrain" in a sentence when that's what you mean to say? BTW, the Constitution says "a well-regulated militia", not street thugs with AK-47's, high-powered handguns stolen from legal gun stores or weapons stolen from private citizens or collectors. Please refrain from commenting in a knee-jerk fashion and use reason instead of emotion before condemning someone's considered commentary.
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HarpMan1224 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 12 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 11:09:31 AM
He is a Ron Paul supporter behind whom all the GWB supporters are hiding, just hoping the Democrats will fragment into such silliness. It is the only way they can win. They hate Hilliary because she is the most Liberal Progressive of the bunch. Those who attack her never quote her positions or her votes in the Senate. They attack by insinuatin, innuendo and ad hominem. I am for Edwards, but Hillary is second on the list.
Hey Dennis! Don't listen! Go for being the next Speaker of the House. Remember Carl Albert and the immense power he held. He was a little short guy, too, but so was Napoleon. Remember! President is only for eight years, but speaker can be thirty years.
Dennis Kucinich, Speaker of the House of Representatives. Has a majestic ring to it, don' t you think?
Phil.
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pratliff94 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 940 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 11:31:59 AM
That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. I stated quite clearly that I don't know much about Ron Paul except that he is a strict constitutionalist. Furthermore, perhaps you should read what Mr. Kucinich's wife had to say about Ron Paul. After watching the video, you might have to change your stance on the matter. As I stated, knowledge is power!:
Its a nice fantasy to imagine Kucinich winning, but if he runs as an independent, he is doing so because he doesn't believe he has a chance in hell of winning regardless.
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ncvoter (6 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 86 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 11:33:12 AM
Shocking Results from National Poll: Dennis Kucinich Leading Democrats
Usually, when people are talking about the Democratic contenders for the 2008 presidential campaign, the names heard most often are Hilary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards. They seem to be getting the most press, anyway.
But apparently none of the three have made the best impression.
In a press release just issued on prnewswire, Dennis Kucinich has won a startling first place nationally among Democratic candidates in a national poll. He was first place in 41 of the 50 states. The results were released just last night, late, by Democracy For America. (DFA).
If things are to change, then great risks need to be taken. One such risk is for Kucinich to go "all in" with one last ditch effort to save this country. That risk is running as an independant and hoping that most of the voters are so disillusioned with the staus quo, that they will dump the two-party system. The fear is that it will split the democratic vote and insure Giulinan, Bush's logical successor, will win.
The other risk that he would be taking, regardless of his party affiliation, is that of losing his life. That, however, is what it will take to wrest this thing away from the elite.
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Bill Cain (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 239 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:00:27 PM
Hillary Clinton walking away with the Democratic nomination for President - and that would indeed be the death-knell for liberty and democracy in America.
Get serious. What's all this sudden Hillary-terror that's sweeping the Democrats?
If I remember correctly, she was half of the couple who inhabited the White House when last we balanced a budget, paid down a share of the national debt and actually concerned ourselves with civil rights and civil attitudes.
There isn't a single Democratic contender who couldn't run the country well. but 'Clinton as disaster' is simply ludicrous.
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Jim Freeman (107 articles, 40 quicklinks, 149 diaries, 325 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:42:44 PM
They are smoking some outer space weed supplied by the GWB and the Ron Paul crowd with a little Huckabee thrown off in the back drop. They have had their brother Pat Roberson raise Tim O'Leary from the dead so he could give a very special type of acid to them so they will never have to look at facts again in their lives.
I guess they want us to believe Pat Robertson, James Dobson (Focus on the Family), Richard Land (head of the Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Life Committee in Washington, D.C) Bob Jones, Jr of the Bob Jones University all hate Senator Cllinton because of her right wing politics.
I don't know what they are smoking; I sure don't want any of it, and I sure ain't buying their garbage either.
Phill
Phil.
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pratliff94 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 940 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 1:01:47 PM
I was a huge Clinton supporter and remember the days when the economy flourished under Bill Clinton. Listening to Hillary now in a debate is sad; she beats around the bush (no pun intended) and seems to mirror many of Bush's policies in regard Iraq. Most important to me is NAFTA, which Bill Clinton pushed through, and we all know that NAFTA and CAFTA has been among the single-most destructive agreements that have impacted our economy and the Middle-Class workers.
Hillary is not supporting the impeachment of two of America's criminals, and that's not speculation, but a fact. Pelosi is as bad, if not worse for "taking impeachment off the table." The two party system is failing America, and even though the Democrats smile and get along generally better with the public, they still represent corporate America, not the people, and that to me is reason enough to say NO to Hillary Clinton.
William Cormier
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William Cormier (106 articles, 5 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 266 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 7:31:24 PM
Okay, William, I believe you are not a Ron Paul supporter and will not vote for him in the General Election, but many on this blog are Paul supporters seeking only to divide the opposition to the Republicans.
If you do not believe me, write an article critical of Ron Paul and if you are a real Progressive Liberal that should not be hard for you to do. When you do, watch the Paulites attack in tandum with thirty or forty making comments and all backing up each other and telling you how stupid you are and how un-American. Just read some of the comments on Mike Kuykendall's November 15 article. Wow!
I still like Dennis Kucinich for Speaker of the House. Running as an independent will just allow the Republicans to retain power by dividing the Progressive Liberal vote. One more Supreme Court Justice and they will have a controlling majority for the next twenty years on SCOTUS.
No difference between Bill Clinton and George Bush? Just look at the two Bush boys placements on the Supreme Court: Thomas, Roberts and Alito. Now compare Thomas, Roberts and Alito to Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer put on SCOTUS by Clinton. No difference, in a pig's eye.
Fight with every thing you have in the Primaries, but be very sure you fight just as hard for the Democrat nominee when November elections take place.
Sorry, I called you a Paulite. I would feel very insulted, too.
Phil.
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pratliff94 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 940 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:48:21 PM
Federal Govt is broken - give up on dems and repubs
I agree with Mr. Cormier. Yes, there is the risk of splitting the democratic party if Dennis runs as an independent. But if there really are any Hillary supporters, they are as much out of step as the republicans. If we are ever going to change the federal government, it will not be by trying to fix a hopelessly broken system. It will be by starting something new. After Bush and Iraq, then the dems after 2006, I believe the nation may have reached critical mass for actually launching a viable new party.
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Steve Slocum (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 20 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 1:16:23 PM
I also support Dennis Kucinich. Were he not in the Democratic primaries, I would be considering registering Republican and voting for Ron Paul. Any rate, my thoughts on why a Kucinich/Paul independent ticket might be a good idea...
... though there are some issues that these two men do not agree on. Ron Paul's opposition to abortion being legal on a federal level will not float with any of us who consider ourselves pro-choice on the matter; his argument is that Roe vs. Wade is unconstitutional, and that abortion should be legislated on a state level. Also, Kucinich opposes NAFTA and CAFTA. Paul is in favor of free trade, though he opposes NAFTA as an example of "managed trade."
On Constitutional issues: both Kucinich and Paul, in their respective debates, have done admirably in squeezing the important matter of defense of the Constitution between far more irrelevant questions posed by CNN/FOX, and both have spoken against the current executive power's abuse of our Bill of Rights and the right of Habeas Corpus. On October 15, 2007, Ron Paul introduced HR 3835, legislation that would, among MANY other things, repeal the Military Commisions Act, restore habeas corpus, illegitimize confessions or evidence extracted through torture.
On the Iraq war: Kucinich has voted against it 100% of the time. Paul was the only republican to vote against the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, though I'm not sure whether he has consistently voted against actual funding of the Iraq invasion.
Campaign contributions: Out of 435 members of Congress, Ron Paul ranked at #375 and Dennis Kucinich ranked #376 (ranking over-all based on PAC, lobbyist, and "small-money" contributions). Of greater surprise to me than the 1 point difference in their ranking was that Kucinich didn't rank at #435.
I think that despite the differences on certain issues, both Kucinich and Paul have their roots in that common and principled ground that would withstand some bad weather. I also think that such a Dem/Rep presidential ticket gone Independent would both a) gain greater attention in spite of the constipated mainstream media, and b) sidestep any potential media-induced "spoiler" hangover, at least to the extent that Ralph Nader suffered in 2000 and since.
William, thank you for your post. I strongly agree that the U.S. is in desperate need of candidates who will speak the hell up on what is really important. No more "diamonds and pearls", or "(noun)(verb)(9/11)" BS.
All info here came from Wikipedia.
PAC contributions info confirmed by Clean Up Washington (http://www.cleanupwashington.org... click on "key reports" to find out where your congressperson ranks.
and cause Al Gore to loose the election....the election was stolen...SCOTUS choose Bush, it was planned that way!)...an UnConstitutional act...look it up..SCOTUS is not allowed to be political..(but they are, aren't they) 2002 and 2004 were also stolen (through caging, disenfranchising voters and miserable hours waiting in the rain and cold ) ....and just what the hell do we intend to do about that..let the GOP and the MSM choose our political candidates again...?
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Susan Nelsen (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 215 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 1:42:54 PM
As much as I would like to take your suggestion, it is plain that the party and it's key leaders want nothing to do with the radical, progressive change that Dennis stands for and that we all long for. The old guard democrats that run the show will vomit him out of the party.
It is not a groundless fantasy, but an unavoidable fact.
As progressives, we need to find a common ground that we can all agree on, and come together to make it happen. As long as we are splintered up with our own various ideas, we won't change the system. I don't know what that answer is, but we need to figure it out or we will be living with the present system indefinitely.
One of the key missing ingredients is leaders with an existing platform to bring the grassroots together as a unified force. I think Dennis could be a key man to bring that about.
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Steve Slocum (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 20 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 3:23:55 PM
Dennis followed his instincts (evidently) plus very bad advice, and so has run AGAINST the Iowa Caucus this time. The campaign's implausible, insulting complaints that "the game is rigged" might fool followers outside our borders, but I challenge you to find more than a handful here who buy it. He's scarcely set foot here, and he's simply not a factor. (No "progressives" in Iowa, eh?) Okay then, it's up to would-be supporters EVERYWHERE to see to it that he makes a decent showing in New Hampshire and Nevada in the wake of a ZERO showing January 3. He won't be a contender for the White House from ANY party if his candidacy hasn't caught fire by February 5.
What every one misses is that governments change at the whim of the middle voters those who straddle the line between Dem and Republicans.In saturday's election the conservatives where dumped by 5% of the population Those who were die hard Conservatives up to 47% of the voters stayed by their man. 47% dyed in the wool lefties voted for him anyway.The battle is the middle 5-10% (swinging vote) . Or in US case who can muster their voters and the battle for the middle ground. Rove played on energising the GOP base.
DC simply frightened the horses or has allowed others to frighten them about him.
Democracy doesn't guarentee the Best person for President unfortunately who ever advised him to run was thinking with their heart not a pragmatic head.
Clinton is wanted by the republicans as they think they can beat her. They're going to demonize her as jezabelle a woman who doesn't know her place, a victim to an evil letcherous hubby how is she goingstand up to others. She'll be the laughing stock of the inernational forum they won't take her seriously. et al
You think it's nasty now just watch the GOP wallow in the cess pit.
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Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 532 comments)
on Monday, November 26, 2007 at 2:31:15 AM
No independent stands a chance at getting elected at this time even with money which Dennis doesn't have. I'm a strong Kucinich supporter but I'm also realistic; he doesn't stand a chance until we progressives get to work at the precinct level and take over the Democratic party much as the extreme right wing did with the GOP a few years ago. When are we going to learn,wishing doesn't get it, hard and sometimes unpleasant work does. I've been a precinct committteeman and will be again if other progressives will get off their duffs and join me.
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Kenneth Briggs (108 articles, 88 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 101 comments)
on Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 5:36:10 PM
As I demonstrated by the interview with Mrs. Kucinich, and from what I've read on their site, where I also post and am a member, they would consider Ron Paul as a running mate. Those
