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February 13, 2008 at 05:24:39

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Right Focus on Impeachment

by Thomas M. Chechatka     Page 1 of 2 page(s)

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Given the cross-currents in coverage surrounding efforts to impeach the Vice President and the President, people of principle need to maintain right focus if they wish to positively influence the political process.

Being a member of the New York Dennis Kucinich MeetUp Group, I am introduced to various views on impeachment circulating the web in forums I might not otherwise have discovered.

Recently, I was referred to peacecandidates.com, and told it was a "good site with lotsa actions, info, and insight." Of particular interest I found:

"Kucinich Lets Supporters Down - Gives New Lousy Excuse for Not Introducing Impeachment"

Subsequently, a message from another person in the MeetUp Group asked, "Did Dennis Pull the Impeachment Resolution? There is something on that peacecandidates.com site stating it. I found this link, but it seems a bit hokey. Does anyone know anything about this?"

"Obama camp sabotaging impeachment efforts?" (by Webster Tarpley)

Upon reading the two screeds linked above, I have the following response to offer. There's a lot of confusion about the relationship between Mr. Kucinich and Mr. Obama and I hope to clear this up...

Webster Tarpley is someone whose analytical savvy is worth contemplating.

However, I am not at all convinced anything impugning Kucinich's integrity exists in the connection between his stalled impeachment effort and Obama's drive for the White House. Nor is this what Tarpley is suggesting. I believe Mr. Kucinich's actions on the impeachment front, carefully measured with deference to Mr. Conyer's sensibilities, are not being influenced by any element forcing him to undermine the principled cause he has been pursuing via both H. Res. 799, as well as Articles of Impeachment against the President he has yet to submit to the Congress.

Furthermore, I rather suppose Kucinich's 2nd round Iowa Caucus "endorsement" of Obama was strictly a political move done for the sake of better assuring his posterity in the race, and NOTHING more. He was solely looking to subdue Ms. Clinton, so she would not run away with the nomination. This simply was a way he could bide time in the hope his candidacy might gain traction going into Super Tuesday. It was all strictly politics. More on Kucinich and Obama below.

Per impeachment, think back to April '07 when Kucinich introduced H. Res. 333. Then, he correctly cited the need to go after VP Cheney first. Considering that Rep. Wexler, too, has raised the impeachment banner against the VP (adding pressure), and now, the further prospect Kucinich will file Articles of Impeachment against the President (adding even more pressure), the House Judiciary Committee gets the message that some people will not let up.

Kucinich supporters who question the Congressman's motives, really, ought to bite their tongue and be quiet. This guy knows how to play politics. Let's make no mistake about this. His entire political career abounds with evidence his motives are noble and well-intended. Yet, this still requires one play the game of politics in order to remain viable.

Any talk Mr. Kucinich is serving some contrary, unappealing, back-stabbing interest is just plain slanderous. Thus, I believe the harsh commentary peacecandidates.com has tendered about the impeachment delay is no more than "White Trash" rage unworthy of serious consideration.

Getting back to the issue raised by Webster Tarpley...

Apparently, certain camps who supported Kucinich's effort to impeach VP Cheney are abandoning ship for the sake of Obama. Well, we see with our own eyes how pragmatic most people's political motives are. For all too many the race for the presidency is a popularity contest with very little grounding in principles buttressing policies.

Truth is the practical matter Mr. Tarpley raises about Mr. Obama is spot on. However, one need read between the lines to take in the big picture.

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Nadia is an online activist interested in using the miracle of the internet to save our country before it is too late.
NadiaNadia is an online activist interested in using the miracle of the internet to save our country before it is too late.

don't ask questions?

"Thus, I believe the harsh commentary peacecandidates.com has tendered about the impeachment delay is no more than "White Trash" rage unworthy of serious consideration."

This sounds like slander to me.  My post merely pointed out the two different excuses given for stalling the Impeachment resolution of Bush.  You might decide to blindly follow Kucinich, but I like to think for myself and ask questions.

The truth of the matter is that Kucinich announced into Congressional record that he would introduce Articles of Impeachment on the day of the State of the Union.  I happily spread this message in my writing.  On the day of the SOTU, activists were waiting in anticipation when he posted on his website the excuse that shortly after his announcement, he changed his mind.  Well why didn't he tell anyone previous to that day when many were glued to CSPAN with the expectation he would be true to his word? 

Now according to Swanson, the excuse has changed. Kucinich claims he was not approached by Nancy Pelosi and AIPAC, however is actions speak as if he was and is being influenced by someone.  What is your explanation?   

by Nadia (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 49 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 10:55:39 AM
 


Virginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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ladybroadoakVirginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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I cannot express my disgust with Democrats any better

http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2008/02/most-of-us-will-eat-shit-until-day-we.htmlWh

 

I am one of those who was taken in by the post about Kucinich being approached by AIPAC and Nancy Pelosi. And then we have David Swanson as apologist? Give me a effing break.  IT was planted on me - and then I was to feel ashamed for feeling a sense of HOPE that the truth was out. 

Some of us work long hours, for no pay . all to end the devastation of humanity by US hegemony and WRONG US foreign policy that now has American citizens on their knees.

I have criticized, criticized the approach over and over and over. IT is NOT grassroots by any stretch. It does not address the crimes against humanity and GENOCIDE - the environmental destruction caused by US weapons.  IT does not even understand THE LAW OF THE LAND!!  And they certainly do not link up with global organizations, no matter how much money gets thrown at them. 

The only thing I have heard from Dennis is an empty website - and appeals for money. That is NOT why people read what I post, I would hope. They want the killing to stop, the planet have a chance for renewal . they want to go to bed at night without crying for the hurt children. 

To be blunt - it totally totally stinks. I got The Real News to interview David Swanson. I was completely and utterly disgusted with what I saw. WHY? HE talks like THEM. He doesn't speak to US, the PEOPLE who are honest, who are kind, who want something better left seven generations down the road.

Dislike Webster all you like. I happen to TOTALLY Agree with him, I'll say so publicallly.

In dysfunctional circles we have a name for it and it's called "triangulation" whereby people send pronouncements via some third party to cover up their anger. The result is always DISASTER. Why? Because it is a way of dealing with things that doesn't deal with things - and that's PRECISELY what went on here.

 I signed on as a journalist to Dennis' media list - NOT ONE WORD. NOT ONE WORD.

I have zero interest in being a democratic party $chill - they are the codependants is a sick, insane, deluded, cunning, baffling, POWERFUL and insidious game that now has all of us people of feeling THREATENED FOR THE REST OF OUR NATURAL BORN DAYS.

I have the NSA, Senator Webb's IP, and everyone else tracking my blog today.

I hope to hell that those who want their candidates to sell them out some more, are happy.

In forty years of ACTIVISM, I have never felt so badly as yesterday. NEVER.

IF people don't start immediately building a true GRASSROOTS coaltion, some of us are going to done in .. and SOON.

I have been bashed for three long years by the hahaha antiwar movement that makes its living off people dieing, and I am really sick of it.

Antiwar movement. Hey, make me laugh. Green movement? Civil rights movement?

And to think of all the money these organizations have taken in in YOUR Name and done NOTHING.

 

They'll be impeachment leadership alright, but it won't come from where you are "expecting" to find it. Lots of people are probably going to have to die first - no one's bottom out yet from the abuse.

 Hey! Where are the lawyers?  AT least in Pakistan they faced the power of the gun.

 

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 391 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 3:20:21 PM
 

 

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