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March 12, 2008 at 07:51:02

Hillary W. Clinton v. John W. McCain

by Stephen Pizzo     Page 1 of 3 page(s)

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Two of the pillars of our American democracy stand upon are the premise that ordinary folk -- in their role on juries and as voters -- are inherently imbued with a kind of celestial judgement claimed by only one other human on earth, the Pope. As the myth goes, once they hear all the evidence and arguments, juries and voters make the right judgement.

Well, I have at least two contempory examples why that's untrue: O.J. Simpson, and two George W. Bush terms in office. There are others -- lots of them -- but, nuf said. Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we get it wrong. Regardless the decisions stand and the consequences pile up, be they good or ill.


My apologies for just blurting out this revelation, as it will certainly come as news to most middle school civics classes. Sorry boys and girls, but ordinary Americans can be just as stupid when assembled into groups as they can be when left to their own devices-- often even more so. And sprinkling them with feel-good "justice-is-blind" and "the-people's-choice" fairy dust can't turn their occassional pig's-ear decisions into silk purses.

I only mention this because we are again in the midst of one of these exercises in mass decision making. Don't get me wrong, I prefer democracy over any other form of governance I've studied. My only point is that it's far from infallible -- which I admit, is the biggest "duh" you'll hear today.

Already this process is showing signs of trouble. Our herd of Democratic voters appears to have, again, grazed it's way into a patch of locoweed. Yes, I'm bellyaching about Hillary's alleged "come back," in the Texas and Ohio primaries. And about all the nonsense those victories unleashed. And because, against all odds, there's a growing possiblity it can result in sending another Republican to the White House in November. .

Here's why I think the Democratic Party's herd of voters may not be leading us to the White House, but a cliff -- again. Here are my five reasons for believing so:

1) A good place to begin is to examine just who may have engineered Hillary's "comeback" in Texas and Ohio. Ask yourself why you think America's preeminent right-winger would want to help Hillary and hurt Obama.

Rush Limbaugh takes credit for Hillary's support

March 5, 2008 - Chicago Tribune: Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh claimed at least partial credit today for Hillary Clinton's victories in Texas and Ohio.

Limbaugh spent much of his show Monday exhorting Republican listeners to cross over and vote in the Democratic primary for Hillary Clinton to prevent Democrats from unifying around Barack Obama as Republicans have done around John McCain...."What we did, if we did anything, is to create a bunch of chaos in the Democrat Party and it worked," Limbaugh said.

The latest numbers show Clinton won by about 3 percentage points in Texas and 10 points in Ohio. Exit polls of voters in the two states found most Republicans who crossed over and voted in the Democratic primary voted for Obama. (Full Story)

When Rush Limbaugh is your biggest booster, you gotta wonder.


2) After Hillary's twin victories Tuesday night she floated the possibility of a Hillary/Obama ticket. Of course she'd love that, since it would bring in the young and well-educated voters now supporting Obama.

 (Polls show that Hillary's support comes largely from the less educated, blue-collar Democratic party demographic. Not that's there's anything wrong with that.. but it should raise at least some question in the minds of voters. Call me an eliltist but, who would you chose to make a life and death decision for you -- well-educated people or not-so well educated people. But I digress)

The idea that Obama would serve as Hillary's Veep is beyond ridiculous. In fact, I can't think of any serious person who would want the VP post under Hillary. Why? Because they would not BE the Vice President in-fact -- Bill Clinton would be the de-facto VP, huddling nightly in the WH family quarters with the President.

A Vice President Barack Obama would be rendered ridiculous, a figure of ridicule and jokes. I just don't see him, or any other serious person, putting themselves in such an untenable, career killing, humiliating situation. Period. Think about it.

3) A race between Barack Obama and John McCain would be a contest between the politics and policies of the future v, the politics and policies of the past. If you like the war in Iraq, great, McCain will give you more of the same. If you liked tax cuts for the rich, he'll give us more of that too. If you liked seeing wages fall, John W. McCain will accomodate.

If you want something completely different, vote for Obama.

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Stephen Pizzo has been published everywhere from The New York Times to Mother Jones magazine. His book, Inside Job: The Looting of America's Savings and Loans, was nominated for a Pulitzer.

 

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I'm a 68 year old lifelong democrat, in the left wing of his party, married, no kids, atheist/agnostic, philosophical determinist; a second-hand books and records store owner, and small gallery owner in Los Angeles. Love music, politics and health issues. Strongly opposed to war, except as a last resort in response to persistent tyranny. Strongly favor democracy.
johncpI'm a 68 year old lifelong democrat, in the left wing of his party, married, no kids, atheist/agnostic, philosophical determinist; a second-hand books and records store owner, and small gallery owner in Los Angeles. Love music, politics and health issues. Strongly opposed to war, except as a last resort in response to persistent tyranny. Strongly favor democracy.

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Mr. Pizzo:  everything you write here is so much in line with everything else being written on this site. it raises all the same suspicions.  You are obviously a Hillary Hater, and so are nearly all the writers on this list.  But I question everything you say.

Consider that in your first example, of  why we should buy Obama's empty, BS campaign, you point to Rush Limbaugh. who, recently, seems to have supported Hillary.  I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe here, and that we've all gone mad.   Can it be that you actually "believe" Limbaugh.  Forgive me for saying so, but it's hard for me to fathom that a man able to write as well as you do, can, at the same time exhibit the brains of a cow.  Must I accept that you believe that Limbaugh made a public display of supporting Hillary, and this "display" never aroused any suspicion in your mind?  Do you mean to say, that it's necessary for me to tell you, that it's vastly, infinitely more likley, that Limbaugh is doing what he does best: lie, and especially, lie to gullible democrats.    If Limbaugh creates the appearance of supporting Hillary, the very first thing that comes to the mind of anyone with half a brain, should be that he's obviously bullshitting us.  He intends to weaken Hillary's chances in the election, by appearing to support her, since it's a certainty, that there are more than enough fools among democratic voters to turn the election toward Obama, if they discover that Limbaugh says he supports Hillary.   Everything else you say, comes out of mainstream media, and their determination to destroy Sen. Clinton's campaign.  I invite you to go to the current issue of the VILLAGE VOICE, and access an article entitled "Hillary & the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy," by Wayne Barrett.

by johncp (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 7:21:17 PM
 


I am a college graduate, a loyal patriot of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, a person whose convictions and pessimism drive my thought invoking others to think, and enjoy some politcal debate. I like truth even if it doesn't set you "free" in this US of A any longer. I am a liberal.
I do a bit of painting mostly in Acrylic. I do a bit of poetry writng mostly inspired by tragic thought. I do a ton of reading, mostly online. I speak straightforwardly and don't plan on changing. It's wor...

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shirley reeseI am a college graduate, a loyal patriot of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, a person whose convictions and pessimism drive my thought invoking others to think, and enjoy some politcal debate. I like truth even if it doesn't set you "free" in this US of A any longer. I am a liberal.
I do a bit of painting mostly in Acrylic. I do a bit of poetry writng mostly inspired by tragic thought. I do a ton of reading, mostly online. I speak straightforwardly and don't plan on changing. It's wor...

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Right on Stephen

Unfortunately few are aware of Hillary's Project for New American Century sponsorship. Unfortunately few recall the tyrannical episodes during the Clinton Adminisrtation. Such as, Waco, Ruby Ridge, NAFTA, Crimes Bill Act(that is actually unconstitutional), and Welfare Reform that actually kicked the legs out from under the poor mothers and caused them to stay in poverty MORE than exit it.

Unfortunately many just don't have a clue. Unfortunately, Hillary will be more of the same with a tinge of Democratic policies. My homepage continues to BLAME Obama for what Hillary's staff says.

I'm in agreement with you and your article is superb and right on the money. Hillary wants McCain over Obama. They are Centrist (Mac and Hill). Obama is more leaning to the left. You can bet Limbaugh and Coulter were up to dirty tricks. Do they EVER have anything other than a bag of tricks?

by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 206 comments) on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 9:06:16 PM
 


Hi...My field of work is aero-engineering, but lately that has turned to light rail systems. I'm a commerical pilot, jazz guitar player, writer and an activist for the Demorcratic Party, I have three aviation related websites, a public advocate for increaded passenger rail service. At present I'm writting a biography of Mae Post...Wiley Post's wife, the most remarkable woman you've never heard of.
There's more but it is all kinda boring.

Bob KemperHi...My field of work is aero-engineering, but lately that has turned to light rail systems. I'm a commerical pilot, jazz guitar player, writer and an activist for the Demorcratic Party, I have three aviation related websites, a public advocate for increaded passenger rail service. At present I'm writting a biography of Mae Post...Wiley Post's wife, the most remarkable woman you've never heard of.
There's more but it is all kinda boring.

Okay...I've had it!!

(Polls show that Hillary's support comes largely from the less educated, blue-collar Democratic party demographic. Not that's there's anything wrong with that.. but it should raise at least some question in the minds of voters. Call me an eliltist but, who would you chose to make a life and death decision for you -- well-educated people or not-so well educated people. But I digress)

 No...that staement is not a digression into elitism but arrogant condenscension . 

Yes, I'm a Clinton supporter.  I have an under-graduate degree in Aerospace Engineering.  I have a double Masters.  One in Astro-physics and another in Liberal Arts.  I have a substantial income.  I'm liberal.  I am not elderly...agian, I support Clinton! 

But why do you speak of the middle-class Americans as being less than you are?  I would rather trust middle-class Democrats as a whole, than the disdain of another Obama "foamer".  Please, take some time off.  I think  that you have much to learn.

by Bob Kemper (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments) on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 9:45:47 PM
 

 

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