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BILL PRESS: Hey, she's working for her mom. What's unseemly about that? During the last campaign, the Bush twins were out working for their dad. I think it's great, I think she's grown up in a political family, she's got politics in her blood, she loves her mom, she thinks she'd make a great president -- SHUSTER: But doesn't it seem like Chelsea's sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way? Schuster asked appropriately whether Chelsea should be calling Super Delegates to convince them to support her mother. Bill Press compared this to the Bush twins working for their father. I like Bill Press but his analogy to the Bush kids is not the same. There is a difference between working for a parent in a political campaign and calling Super Delegates. Super Delegates are a critical part of the choice for the Democratic nominee. If I were an undecided Super delegate getting a call from Chelsea Clinton, I would have felt that her call was a subtle or not so subtle inappropriate use of a child to appeal to my emotions rather than my objective choice as to who I would support. There are many important issues of advocacy in which I am involved. I have a beautiful and intelligent daughter who is Chelsea's age and I would never put her in a position to use her to try to compromise someone whose support I needed. Chelsea's knowing many of these Super Delegates because her father was President does not give the Clintons the right to use her in an advocacy role. In my opinion the use of Chelsea to call Super Delegates shows how desperate they are and to what lengths they would go to win. I feel for Chelsea and as a parent have a lot of empathy for her. Hillary is a wonderful mother but Bill has caused much public humiliation for Chelsea at a time when she was barely out of high school in 1998 because of the Monica scandal. And the Clintons rightfully wanted the press to respect her right of privacy. When they interjected Chelsea into this primary, the Clintons changed the very rule that they wanted the media to respect. So David Schuster correctly pointed out the unseemly nature of Chelsea's use in this campaign and the utter hypocrisy of the Clintons desire to protect their daughter. Schuster did not call Chelsea a "nappy haired hoe." He criticized the Clintons for using Chelsea in a weird sort of way for being "pimped out" by her parents. Pimped out is a phrase that means exploited to most. In urban vocabulary it actually is complementary. If Schuster had used "exploited" instead of "pimped out", his analysis would have been more mainstream. Although his choice of words was not good, his point was arguably valid. Clearly Schuster was referring to the Clinton campaign people and not attacking Chelsea. Schuster knows how ruthless the Clinton campaign team can be. I know enough about them to make me question their strategy. The belligerent members of her team have managed to grasp defeat from the hands of victory by their inappropriate use of Bill Clinton and their exploitation of Chelsea. They ruined Hillary's campaign by injecting race and gender into this campaign. Now they want to exploit Chelsea whom I know hates to be in the public limelight. Taylor Marsh wrote a Huffpo criticizing Schuster for being sexist in his comment about the use of Chelsea at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/msnbcs-david-shuster-ch_b_85649.html. She injected the gender card as the reason that Schuster was sexist. "Pimped out" is a phrase which has been used more about men than woman. When Bill Clinton protested, Taylor Marsh had her gender-biased response. Taylor seems to forget that Bill Clinton's behavior in the past is about as sexist as it gets. But, many women seem to give Bill a pass on this because of his enormous personal appeal. He has subjected his wife and daughter to a terrible personal humiliation. Bill of all people should have kept his daughter out of this for that very reason. I as a father would never had allowed it. I do not understand why Hillary does not protect herself from her husband and his campaign team. She unfortunately has allowed her husband to dominate her campaign to a point where she is in serious jeopardy of losing. However, she allowed this to happen and must suffer the consequences. It is too bad that people cannot view this objectively and have made David Schuster the scapegoat for another Clinton indiscretion.
DAVID SHUSTER: Bill, there's just something a little bit unseemly to me that Chelsea's out there calling up celebrities, saying support my mom, and she's apparently also calling these super delegates.
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Chelsea, a child?
What planet are you on? She's a grown adult, working for her mother's election. by Jim Freeman (108 articles, 53 quicklinks, 227 diaries, 386 comments) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 12:03:28 PM  (0+)
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Off with his head ?
a retired high school English teacher who is aware that words evolve by Christie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 143 comments) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 1:35:19 PM (0+)
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Good commentary, Shelly
I agree. Chelsea is the only one in that family who possesses any dignity and I seriously doubt she had any say in the matter when the campaign decided to use her to their advantage (pimp her out). She certainly is not the most enthusiastic worker bee in the campaign... Meanwhile, I am still on my hunger strike. Where's Sammy? by Sheila Samples (54 articles, 6168 quicklinks, 44 diaries, 601 comments [28 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 3:13:48 PM (0+)
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Shuster would NEVER say this..but look who did!!
-- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998. http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html Lets see how much attention this gets! McCain is nasty and mean. by joyce (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 73 comments) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 5:03:45 PM (0+)
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I Thought It Was Funny and Spot On
MSNBC's grovelling before the Clintons nauseates me, it is nothing different than being punching bags to to the Republicans and their fallacious liberal media lies and slander. Seems that the Queen in waiting has her knickers in a twist that the peasants are revolting already. God forbid that MSNBC is left out when the Clinton restoration passes out the spoils. EE by Ed Encho (12 articles, 20 quicklinks, 65 diaries, 438 comments [14 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 5:27:01 PM (0+)
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And By the Way Mr. Drobny
Would it be possible to make podcasts of the Mike Malloy Show more accessible and cheaper or god forbid even free? Malloy is the best thing on the left side of the dial and in these tough economic times it's a damned shame that so many can't afford the premium access. Just a thought. EE by Ed Encho (12 articles, 20 quicklinks, 65 diaries, 438 comments [14 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 5:30:40 PM (0+)
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Pimping and Groveling
ABC (via Drudge who hilariously headlines this as "Not Pimping") has a story about Hillary Jr going out for dinner with a 21 year old Super Delegate. Very interesting story in light of the protestations about little Chelsea getting pimped. Did the campaign make her go? Or did her mommy? The ABC story is here: click here on the media. They have to grovel. The Clinton's have the hammer (no access - which is death to media types) ready to wield if a member of the media gets out of line. You would grovel too if your paycheck depended on getting regular face time with either of the Clintons. by Mad Jayhawk (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 652 comments [56 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 7:23:23 PM (0+)
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Excellent article
I don't ever write about family members, however when the family members get directly involved in the actions of the principal then they need to take their knocks. This is the Bush - Clinton gang controlling the renegade elements of the media. This guy is a very good reporter, excellent by comparison, and they don't like that. He might just report that the war based on lies that Hillary voted for, even though many of us read the public account and knew it was based on lies. That 's the obscenity, the pornography - 1.2 million dead Iraqi civilians, 5.0 million orphans; thanks to the engineers of this disaster and those who voted funding. HRC needs to be held to account for the dead, injured, and orphaned. That's why Edwards never pulled off his little charade as a man of the people. The public knew a phony when they heard his apology. Same with Clinton - step up HRC, take credit for the death and suffering. You pushed it and praised it and pretended to become an expert on defense. Now you're oh so tepid in having a platform to get out. I'm not an Obama supporter but his platform calls for withdrawal in 16 months. What about the death delivering HRC? No commitments ... unless it's to crush out the last vestage of dissent. by Michael Collins (130 articles, 20 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 485 comments [42 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 8:09:12 PM (0+)
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Schuster Should be Fired!
There is no way to defend what Sleazy Schuster said about Chelsea Clinton. If he wanted to criticize something she was doing, he could merely have described the action and his objection to it. But to say what he said? No, it was over the line. Romney's five sons were doing the same type of work -- I saw them in action on C-Span. No one said they were being pimped out. Could be because they are male. Schuster is three things: a toady of Matthews, a sexist, and a Clinton hater. He also thinks that his frat boy talk is acceptable anywhere, anytime as long as it's "only" a woman he is demeaning. He should be canned and quick. by fou (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 98 comments) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 9:53:24 PM (0+)
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Enough is enough!!!!
Have we not had enough of politico's controlling the media. 20 years of deconstruction is enough. Since when did we progressives believe that instilling fear among reporters was a good thing.That is why the Iraq war happened. Reporters lost the war against truth and honesty, afraid to ask questions. I think David Shuster may have made a faux pas, but it was not borne of malice. just poor English usage. Yes Chelsea calling the Super-delegates is inappropriate since it is unfair pressure from a family member of a candidate. David Shuster was trying to make a point and I think a whole lot of people where upset by the truth. If you put your grown child in the dirty political trenches what would you call it ? And why be surprised when someone points out your greed for power. by cluelessfl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 188 comments) on Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 11:40:07 PM (0+)
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Drobny's Idiotic Outrage
When Chelsea was 12-years-old When Chelsea Was Barely 18-years-old "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." ****************************************************************************************************** When Chelsea was days away from becoming 28-years-old SHUSTER: But doesn't it seem like Chelsea's sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way? *********************************************************** Of all the misogynist cretins roaming the halls of MSNBC, David Shuster is along with Keith the least of them. Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson commit more boorish behavior in a nanosecond than Shuster will in his lifetime. Even the cross dresser, Pat Buchannan, who tries to pass himself off as his imagined sister, Bay, from time to time ( anyone ever seen them together ) is more misogynistic than Shuster. MSNBC, the network of women haters and, excepting Contessa Brewer; myriads of women completely qualified to be hated would suspend David Shuster. Perhaps Drobney, the man who helped bring us the insufferable Lionel at Air America, got Shuster suspended because David never learned to spell Schuster. by Roy Murtishaw (14 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 81 comments) on Tuesday, Feb 12, 2008 at 11:09:35 AM (0+)
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Not to pick on you Drobster...
... but I have seen a lot of commentary by people with impressive resumes (if they're to be believed) who support Shuster. They say that the Clintons pimped out Chelsea in the explicitly sexual sense that she has now "blossomed." - i.e. the Clintons are intentionally putting out eye candy for pathetic pseudo-pundits with Monitor Tan to leer at. Let's just have the Clintons torn to pieces by drought-maddened Wildebeests and be done with it. See my op-ed pieces, Memo to Hunter S. Thompson and Waterboarding Bambi and Swiftboating Billary by Gary Markowitz (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 10 comments) on Wednesday, Feb 13, 2008 at 1:17:18 AM (0+)
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David Schuster in my opinion is one of the best reporters working for the corporate media. He is a hard-hitting reporter that speaks his mind. He criticizes members of both political parties. During the Bush Administration, he has been appropriately critical of the numerous problems of the Bush Presidency. He was also very critical of the many problems within the Clinton Administration. I enjoy his work because he speaks his mind spontaneously despite the fact that his boss Chris Matthews is not my favorite. The following is the link from you Tube which caused his suspension from MSNBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2St8qoXx1g.
Specifically this is what he said while interviewing Bill Press: