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Joe Lieberman; Fascist Censor (with poll)

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Kudos to Google for refusing to bow down to Joe Lieberman's attempts to censor youtube. It's a slippery slope one starts down when one starts to censor and Lieberman seems happy to grease the slide with his efforts.

The NY Times writes, today,

The Internet is simply a means of communication, like the telephone, but that has not prevented attempts to demonize it — the latest being the ludicrous claim that the Internet promotes terrorism.

Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut is trying to pressure YouTube to pull down videos he does not like, and a recent Senate report and a bill pending in Congress also raise the specter of censorship. It is important for online speech to be protected against these assaults.

Mr. Lieberman recently demanded that YouTube take down hundreds of videos produced by Islamist terrorist organizations or their supporters. YouTube reviewed the videos to determine whether they violated its guidelines, which prohibit hate speech and graphic or gratuitous violence. It took down 80 videos, but left others up. Mr. Lieberman said that was “not enough,” and demanded that more come down.

Earlier this month, the Senate homeland security committee, which is led by Mr. Lieberman, issued a report titled “Violent Islamist Extremism, the Internet, and the Homegrown Terrorist Threat.” The report identified the Internet as “one of the primary drivers” of the terrorist threat to the United States.

All of this comes against the backdrop of a troubling Congressional antiterrorism bill that also focuses on the Internet. The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, which passed the House last year by a 404-to-6 vote, would establish a commission to study the terrorist threat and propose legislation. The bill, which the Senate has not acted on, has a finding that the Internet promotes radicalization and terrorism.

The NY Times reports that the committee didn't call for restricting free speech, but did discuss the need for “what, if any, new laws” should be enacted. The Times concludes, "no new laws are needed — or justifiable — any more than it would be tolerable to enact laws restricting speech over the telephone, in a newspaper or a book, on a street corner, or in a church, mosque or synagogue."

Just as many right wing supporters are willing to give up their rights to privacy, usuall, with the explanation that they personally have nothing to hide, this approach to cutting into the essential right to free expression could be defended by suggesting that people who are not terrorists have nothing to worry about. This is incredibly dangerous. As the loyal opposition, in a time when opposition has been attacked as unpatriotic or even aiding the enemy, entering this slippery censorship slope could lead to the squelching of all protest.

TheTimes concludes,

Not only do these efforts contradict fundamental American values, it is not clear if they would help fight terrorism. Even if YouTube pulled down every video Mr. Lieberman did not like, radical groups could post the same videos on their own Web sites. Trying to restrain the Internet is a game of “whack-a-mole” that cannot be won, says John Morris of the Center for Democracy and Technology. Having the videos on YouTube may even be a good thing, because it makes it easier for law enforcement officials, the media and the public to monitor the groups and their messages.

Terrorism is a real concern. All Americans know that. They also know that if we give up our fundamental rights, the terrorists win. If people use speech to engage in criminal acts, they should be prosecuted. Cutting off free speech is never the right answer.

Lieberman is really going further and further in taking the place of neanderthalcon Zell Miller, the most toxic, offensive troglodyte faux "Democrat" the senate has seen in recent years. Unfortunately, there are plenty more of his type, not quite as bad, but almost equally willing to shed the values and principles of Democracy. In the house, they call themselves Bluedogs. Fortunately, there are many in the blogosphere who are taking these sellout right wing faux Dems on. Donna Edwards did it in Maryland and that should just be the beginning.

Unfortunately, the last three debacles for Republicans, where they lost long held Republican congressional seats, the Dems who won them are Bluedog types. Sure, it's an improvement, but it also changes the composition of the Democratic party, making it more conservative. It is, therefore, essential, that progressives take aggressive action to push the party to the left. Failure to do so will actually allow MORE people like Joe LIeberman gain influence in congress. That would be bad news in a year when there should be a lot of good news.

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Rob... by steve scheetz on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 8:28:09 AM
Thanks Steve by Rob Kall on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 8:39:55 AM
I am scratching my head right now... by steve scheetz on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 10:00:54 PM
I am scratching my head right now too. by Darren Wolfe on Monday, May 26, 2008 at 8:02:15 AM
With respect, Steve, I doubt you would know a true fascist by Jay Farrington on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 9:10:11 AM
So by your definition.. by steve scheetz on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 9:49:54 PM
The Rights of Man vs Benefits of Citizenship by JC Garrett on Monday, May 26, 2008 at 1:47:31 AM
Please write more on this subject! by William Cormier on Monday, May 26, 2008 at 7:25:17 AM
Irrelevant by Bill Samuel on Monday, May 26, 2008 at 9:30:38 AM
It's Lieberman by a mouth. by John Sanchez Jr. on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 9:29:58 AM
Screw Lieberman by Mac McKinney on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 9:40:58 AM
What's Next, Burning Books? by Ed Encho on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 9:54:34 AM
Always has been a neocon by John R Moffett on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 11:05:17 AM
Hey Rob by Vincent Guarisco on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 11:39:15 AM
Hi Vincent by John R Moffett on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 1:45:28 PM
missing comments by Rob Kall on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 8:26:25 PM
Liberman by August Adams on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 11:58:01 AM
I belong to that district by Mark Sashine on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 2:52:59 PM
HE IS A STATE SENATOR. IT TAKES A VILLAGE! by Wolfie on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 3:45:20 PM
My apologies, he is the Senator of Connecticut by August Adams on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 6:47:59 PM
Oh, here's "edited" comment that was removed... by Vincent Guarisco on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 1:04:30 PM
Vincent... by Sheila Samples on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 2:10:38 PM
Sheila by Vincent Guarisco on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 2:38:05 PM
Joe Lieberman; by MIUWS11 on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 1:32:36 PM
TRAITOR JOE! THAT IS WUNDERBAR. by Wolfie on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 3:52:09 PM
Dual Citizenship? by Maxwell on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 at 3:31:25 PM
John, thank's for the info... by Vincent Guarisco on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 2:00:56 PM
Free the 'Z' word, but end the Lou Dobbs type dumb polls. by James Cordray on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 3:42:55 PM
Vincent by Sheila Samples on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 4:11:39 PM
The "Z Word" nd my understanding of it. by William Cormier on Monday, May 26, 2008 at 9:15:03 AM
Joe joe joe by Michael Dewey on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 4:28:31 PM
Blue Dog "Democrats" by L.M. Arndt on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 4:43:21 PM
Damn right! by Amanda Lang on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 6:40:16 PM
Please no attacks on decendents of Neanderthals (neuroatypic by William Haught on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 5:16:42 PM
DON'T BE SO HAUGHTY by Wolfie on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 5:30:30 PM
Link does not work by Amanda Lang on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 6:42:08 PM
TNR by Laudyms on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 7:30:32 PM
Flawed Poll - Rob by Mr M on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 10:05:52 PM
It's coming down the pike.... by richard on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 10:10:58 PM
Progressive Inconsistency by Darren Wolfe on Monday, May 26, 2008 at 8:25:44 AM
Hey, Genius by JC Garrett on Monday, May 26, 2008 at 11:41:21 AM
Ummm tenet was appointed by Clinton.... by steve scheetz on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 6:14:39 AM
Hey, Genius who's a Republican? by Darren Wolfe on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 11:13:24 AM
The Constitution is not to blame by JC Garrett on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 10:04:56 PM
Constitutions Don't Work by Darren Wolfe on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 at 3:22:32 PM
It is now the 21st Century by Michael Dewey on Monday, May 26, 2008 at 4:57:40 PM
No inconsistency by Maxwell on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 at 3:48:57 PM
(No Inconsistency) by Maxwell on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 at 3:54:28 PM
Minority opinion by Maxwell on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 9:21:52 AM
ACCOUNTABILITY = TERRORIST by AdvocacyCorporation on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 7:18:00 PM
That's why I want a Constitutional Convention. by steve scheetz on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 9:53:37 PM
Amen by JC Garrett on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 10:22:52 PM
Don't forget Mini-Lieberman by Gustav Wynn on Thursday, May 29, 2008 at 8:26:23 PM

 
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