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December 12, 2007 at 05:47:28

Headlined on 12/12/07:
Is Nancy Pelosi Complicit in Torture?

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This is really disgusting: It appears that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Dem leaders had been briefed in the past about the Bush administration's use of waterboarding, rendition, and other crimes against humanity, but did not object. In fact, they may have actually encouraged it.

According to AlterNet,

[S]ince 2002 leading Democrats [sic] lawmakers received "about 30 private CIA briefings, some of which included descriptions of waterboarding, overseas rendition sites, and other harsh interrogation methods." Officials present at some of the meetings, told the [Washington] Post that the reaction from legislators "was not just approval, but encouragement."

If this is true, then things are even worse in Washington than I thought.

And it confirms the theory that the Democrats are merely "Republican light".

If this is true, then torture may be tolerated, and perhaps even encouraged, in the foreseeable future by our elected officials on both sides of the aisle, despite what they might tell us in public.

And, if this is true, then it doesn't matter how we voted in 2006, and (perish the thought) it might not matter how we vote in 2008.

Ouch.

This is what we, as a nation, have become.

God bless America. Or, as the other bumper sticker says: Who would Jesus torture?

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klevensteinAerospace Computer Engineer

Thank You

for writing this.

Along similar lines, there's also this:

http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1766#more-1766

As for other writers...

by klevenstein (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 6:05:12 AM

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Tony Forestx

coffee

"If this is true, then things are even worse in Washington than I thought."

"And, if this is true, then it doesn't matter how we voted in 2006, and (perish the thought) it might not matter how we vote in 2008."

Good morning !

by Tony Forest (4 articles, 14 quicklinks, 131 diaries, 1216 comments) on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 6:47:36 AM

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Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.

HELLLOOOO!?

Not since way before we were born have "we the people' had any representation. The whole government, except for a few notable, yet ineffective people, is a Dog & Pony Show to give us the illusion we have some say it policy and who governs us. Dem, Repub, makes no difference, take your pick, we still lose.

Our elections are a farce. Our so-called representatives resent us and have no idea what the average Joe faces and frankly don't want to know. Because if we had true representation these pathetic excuses for humans that we now have wouldn't be sucking off the tit of the MIC war-mongers that run the show, they wouldn't be in office to begin with.

But, alas, we'll never see any of this. We're way too far gone to fix anything. It's gotten to the point that the entire system will have to collapse under the weight of its inherent corruption before anything will be able to be fixed. That's if there's anything or one left to rebuild it.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 1253 comments) on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 12:38:25 PM

Politically, I lean Libertarian. When discussing issues, I will slam Dems and/or Republicans.

Now, when it comes to really irritating me, just make an unfounded charge; I will clobber whomever makes the charge if there are no facts to back it up! Another version of this is when I see something that is just plainly silly/ridiculous.

An example could be something stated which could be very easily disproved. Another example, and I see this frequently: Rather than...

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steve scheetzPolitically, I lean Libertarian. When discussing issues, I will slam Dems and/or Republicans.

Now, when it comes to really irritating me, just make an unfounded charge; I will clobber whomever makes the charge if there are no facts to back it up! Another version of this is when I see something that is just plainly silly/ridiculous.

An example could be something stated which could be very easily disproved. Another example, and I see this frequently: Rather than...

to see more of bio, click on member name

It really is sad that Dems

are JUST NOW waking up to certain realities.... The CONgress ALL knew! they have LIED to us from the very beginning on Iraq when they came out whining "bush Lied to us!" the loudest of whiners NEVER EVEN READ what bush sent them, so how could he have lied to them?

Hillary even said that she did her OWN research before voting to give bush Congressional power to declare war....

NOW I start seeing Dems complaining about their CONgressional representation now that it is really out there that they have lied once again...

IT IS ABOUT TIME!

that is all I have to say about that...

Ciao, CZ

by steve scheetz (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 507 comments) on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 1:30:44 PM

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No wonder impeachment is off the table

It looks as though Speaker Pelosi and other Democrats have colluded with the Bush administrations torture techniques because she knew about them but did not report them.

by Michael Chavers (42 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 173 comments) on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 4:15:36 PM

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Kathlyn StoneKathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.

There was some evidence that Dem leaders were briefed

about torture a couple years ago. It would not have continued without their acquiesence. The big names were Rockefeller and Pelosi. They said they were legally prohibited from discussing it. Deflecting duties fell to Rockefeller (with his impecable credentials). "Our hands are tied! But give us the majority, make Pelosi the Speaker and put 'good Democrats' in charge of committees and we'll change everything!"

Uh-huh. The changes are enormous: habeas corpus has been restored, people have renewed confidence in the election process, we don't torture anymore, In fact, Guantanomo is closed. Only one battalion of troops remain in Iraq and they'll be home by Christmas.

Oh, I'm so happy that the Democrats are in charge of the House and Senate!

by Kathlyn Stone (39 articles, 213 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 592 comments) on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 5:56:32 PM

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AngeloThinking ex-pat

torture

Whether or not she knew about waterboarding, she's been torturing me since she became speaker.

by Angelo (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 160 comments) on Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 6:58:44 AM

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Torture

Thank you for saying this. I guess now America can join the club of third world nations who oppress the people, defy the laws and rob the treasury. Crap, we are already there!

by Michael Morris (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 298 comments) on Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 9:44:56 AM

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