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September 27, 2007 at 09:16:31

DNC, Chair Howard Dean has abandoned the base as he courts evangelicals

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As the non-binding Lieberman/Kyl resolution on Iran passed by an impressive margin and included within is Senator Clinton voting yae, it is not surprising to see the angst and anger being written of concerning Clinton.  In fact, I would say some are bordering on pure venom at the Democratic front-runner.  Most of these folks are from the anti-war left of the Democratic Party.  You know the base that helped give power over to the Democrats last November.

 

What has escaped the anti-war left is where DNC Chair; Howard Dean is courting the evangelical voters for support. In this move, I do feel that Dean has abandoned the very people who helped the Democratic Party out prior to those Midterm elections.  This is the thanks they get for volunteering in order to help box Bush in? 

 

On a personal level, after Dean suffered a defeat in winning the presidential nomination to become that party’s candidate back in 2004, I wrote all of the New York Democratic delegates to vote him in as DNC chair.  Seeing this move coming from Dean, my time was wasted.  Feeling abandoned by the hierarchy of the Democratic Party, I did leave the party a few months ago.

 

It astounds me to read, "Last November, 70% of white evangelical and born-again Christians voted for Republican candidates nationwide, which is about the same performance as in 2004. DNC Chairman Howard Dean thinks Dems might be able to shave a few points off that number." If the Democratic Party were to stay loyal to their base meaning the anti-war left, they need not look to shave some points from the evangelicals. Who is to say they will be there when these candidates need them in the 2008 election? This is where I do feel that the Democrats have abandoned their base and much to their detriment.

 

In meeting with Richard Land a Tennessee evangelist, “Dean was there to chip away at Land’s loyalty to the GOP” This is lunacy.  Howard Dean should be looking towards those who have only shown loyalty to the Democratic Party.

 

This is how the Democrats do shoot themselves in the foot every time.  They move away from where they are strongest into territories where they are the weakest. 

 

For those Democratic activists that have been working tirelessly defending a woman’s right to choose, according to Land, “Dean told me how the Democrats were pro-life in that they wanted a country in which abortion was rare. I said, ‘I agree, but we disagree how to get there.’ Still, it was certainly a change in tone.”

 

Land expressed wondering if he sees Democrats willing to compromise the party’s principles and stated, “I seriously doubt it. The point of this outreach is to help present a Democratic message in a way that evangelical voters might find appealing.” I would say that Dean in this move is looking to compromise the party and is throwing its principles in the garbage.  One does have to wonder what principles are left at this point.

 

As one reads where evangelicals “are not necessarily a monolithic voting bloc” this article goes onto say, “Some are open to a Democratic message on everything from global warming to Darfur to poverty,” one must wonder how these evangelicals feel knowing that over one million Iraqis have now died due to their support of both Bush and Cheney.  Don’t they equally count?

 

This article also states where Clinton, Obama and Edwards do have on their staff people reaching out to religious groups; are they also reaching out to those who have been by their side and elected them to office by campaigning for them?

 

“Burns Strider, director of faith-based operations for the Clinton campaign, stated, “There’s a lot of common ground here with evangelicals on the genocide in Darfur, ending human trafficking and making sure that religious liberty is not static around the world,” Those are all noteworthy causes, but one must ask Strider as he represents Hillary’s campaign; why is she not saying her vote for the Iraq Resolution was a mistake when equal suffering is being felt by Iraqis.  This is why the anti-war left base is so furious not only at Sen. Clinton, but other Democrats who voted for this war and act as war-hawks to this day.

 

If they fail to succeed in persuading this evangelical base, the Democratic Party has its sights set on both Catholics and Protestants.  Why not go back to what works for the Democratic Party and that is upholding the values of the party and being the voice of those who have only felt left behind.  I would say that the anti-war movement is not only comprised of the left, but where many who have left the party and are now independents or centrists would come running if they stood their ground.

 

This is where I feel like matching the ‘Dean scream’ in seeing this move by the Democratic National Committee Chair, Howard Dean.  To Howard Dean, your base has been there, but you have left the base in the dust.

 

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I am a retired opera singer. I was a leading soprano with the New York City Opera for ten years. I am a strong supporter of Dennis Kucinich and worked for his campaign in 2004. I believe that he is the ONLY honest man in congress. He has been working against this insane war since before it began. I am 72 years old and I have been so frustrated with the media, the Congress and the American people that they don't tell the truth.
CaronomeI am a retired opera singer. I was a leading soprano with the New York City Opera for ten years. I am a strong supporter of Dennis Kucinich and worked for his campaign in 2004. I believe that he is the ONLY honest man in congress. He has been working against this insane war since before it began. I am 72 years old and I have been so frustrated with the media, the Congress and the American people that they don't tell the truth.

Why bother??

 As many times as I read  about Dems reaching out to Evangelicals it always surprises me.  It is almost impossible to reach out to a closed mind.  In the past I have tried to make sense to a "born again Christian" but I have given up. There has never been such a group of people who are so zealous in their approach to everything that they can't see what is happening around them.

I am a Christian too and I can't help thinking that if Jesus were to come back here, he would really be pissed if he saw what passes for a Christian  person. He stood for peace. How Bush and his crime family have been able to twist that whole concept completely on its axis is beyond me. 

by Caronome (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 200 comments) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 11:16:26 AM
 


Election Issues Committee Chairman for the Pinellas County, FL Democratic Executive Committee. I want to put a link to your site on our homepage, and I'm working on getting permission to do so.
GitarChrisElection Issues Committee Chairman for the Pinellas County, FL Democratic Executive Committee. I want to put a link to your site on our homepage, and I'm working on getting permission to do so.

Dean

Howard Dean seems adept at courting disaster.  Evangelicals are a lost cause.  The far more numerous Fundamentalists who are not Evangelicals already vote more along the lines of the general population.   The whole thing is a waste of time.  Wouldn't Dean be more effective if he lobbied Democratic Senators and Congresspeople who keep voting with Bush?

by GitarChris (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 112 comments) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 1:27:34 PM
 


I am an Evangelical Democrat from one of the most republican county's in America.
Peter StepaniukI am an Evangelical Democrat from one of the most republican county's in America.

Howard Dean Abandoned the base ?

I am an Evangelical Democrat and I am glad to see Howard Dean reaching out to us. I am sick and tired of being told that because I am an Evangelical I should be voting Republican. It is about time that the Democrats break the hold that republicans have on this people group.

With all the stories of Republican hypocrisy and none of the republican presidencial candidates being accepted by the evangelical community, now is the time to open up the democratic party to them and welcome them with open arms.

 

by Peter Stepaniuk (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 2:06:21 PM
 


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Kenneth BriggsBorn-03/20/1934, BA Pol. Sci.-U of Washington-1956, MBA-Seattle U-1970, Boeing-Program Control-1957-1971, State of Oregon-Mental Health Division-Deputy Admistrator-1971-1979, llinois Association of Community MH Agencies[IACHMA]-Executive Director-1980-1987, District of Columbia Government-MH Division-Chief MH System Development-1987-1989, Illinois Real Estate-Associate Broker-1989-1995, Ohio-Retired-1995-1999, Florida-Retired- 1999-?Operate an eBay book store, Ajax Books Etcetera, which currentl...

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DNC Chair

The DNC chair has a lot of responsibilities not the least of which is to keep the party together  and voting as one at all levels. Perhaps even more important is his duty to listen to all facits of the party and develop statements that reveal the parties values. Unfortunately Mr. Dean has not done any of these things, but instead has ridden off on a pony of a different color that few can see. It is long past time for some strong indications of what they are[or it is]. Level with us Mr. Dean what is it that you are after. I hope its a President that champions the needs of the poor  and a strong defense of the constitution and all that that means.

by Kenneth Briggs (117 articles, 88 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 104 comments) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 2:29:45 PM
 


Richard Mynick is a US citizen who, despite the best efforts of the corporate media, noticed something disturbing about how the 2000 election was decided, & felt it augured poorly for democracy.
Richard MynickRichard Mynick is a US citizen who, despite the best efforts of the corporate media, noticed something disturbing about how the 2000 election was decided, & felt it augured poorly for democracy.

How can you even say you hope Dean is after "a president

that champions the needs of the poor  and a strong defense of the constitution"?  Have you been paying attention?

Last month, the Dems helped Bush do away with the 4th Amendment. The whole Iraq war is illegal, as would be an attack on Iran. Torture is illegal, yet the Dems haven't even tried to force Bush to stop it. The Dems haven't tried to restore habeas corpus. They give Bush hundreds of billions for the wars with no strings attached. They vote against free speech, siding with Bush against their own supporters -- MoveOn -- in the recent Petraeus dust-up.  They refuse to even talk about impeachment -- the only serious way to defend the Constitution.

Neither the Dems in general, nor Dean in particular, has said diddly-squat in opposition to these horrifying assaults on the Constitution. In fact, the leading Dem weasels in the presidential sweepstakes are all basically admitting they support staying in Iraq for years; they merely try to invent creative ways of saying this, which are supposed to sound (to the unskeptical) as though they're "trying to end the war" (despite the fact that they're NOT actually trying to do this).

by Richard Mynick (2 articles, 3 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 1120 comments) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 2:47:50 PM
 


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vincent passiatorei am retired military veteran. i served over 25 years in the Unites States Army. i retired in 1983. i served in the vietnam war. a total of 27 months in that war. i also retired from Boeing aircraft. i am 68 years old. i live in texas. iwork out on my treadmill each day. i am married. i like politics. but i dont like what is going on in our government. we need a better government with politicans that answer to the people of america. after all this is our government. ( we the people) according to...

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D.N,C, Howard Dean

Be damned if you do. and be damned if you dont. i am realy tired of this punk ass democrat party. they all are a bunch baloney. i hate the republicans. i hever have voted republican. they are a party only for the rich, every thing they do is for the wealthy. I HAVE NOW ABANDON THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. i want to now what will it take for you people to wake up. the two party system suck's. it has taken control of the american citizens. they have only one thing in mind. screwing all the people of this country. THEY ARE DEVOTED TO CORPORATE AMERICA. CORPORATE AMERICA OWN'S OUT POLITICANS. Billions of dollars are being made of this crappy warin iraq. its all about money.they dont care about iraq's people and our own military. these people will kill all over the world for money.(GREED) THATS WAHT THEY STAND FOR. NOW IS THE TIME FOR A NEW BLOOD IN POLITICS. WASHINGTON NEED'S A CLEAN OUT.(COMPLETELY) I dont know who we could find as a third party candidate. but america needs to find one that is for the people and not special interest.if we as americans dont do any thing then america is going to sink very fast. may be this is the end . we now have a DICTATOR IN CHARGE.and all the sheep are following behind him. WATCH OUT EVERY THING IS CRUMBLE-ING DOWN. ACT NOW BEFORE ITS TO LATE.

by vincent passiatore (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 160 comments) on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 11:43:34 PM
 


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the lambification of Howard Dean

For those who didn't hear it, Howard Dean said on the Rachel Maddow show a few weeks ago that "the American people don't want impeachment, they want to heal."


Lots of politicians lie and attempt to pacify the electorate. What strikes me about Dean's statment is that it's probably the lamest, most putrid honest statment I've ever heard.

(Okay, so, I've been beaten, robbed, sodomized and peed on, but don't arrest the guy who did it - just let me heal.)

by Jim Arnold (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 81 comments) on Friday, September 28, 2007 at 4:33:04 AM
 

 

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