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May 17, 2007 at 01:15:44

Ron Paul correctly labels 9/11 a blow-back

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In the Republican debates that were broadcasted by Fox News, the clear winner as far as I am concerned is none other than Congressman Ron Paul of Texas. You may ask why. It is when he used the term ‘blow-back’ as the reason we were attacked on 9/11. What that shows me is that he has been paying attention unlike Rudy Giuliani who has no foreign policy experience to speak of. Instead of brushing up on foreign policy he has been busy making speeches in which last year he made $9 million dollars.

It was only after digging into this blow-back affect that it changed my mind in relation to terrorist attacks that befell us on 9/11. Yes, I did once believe in these conspiracy theories, but chose to educate myself instead of following the pack.

In my last article speaking of this blow-back in which I compare Saddam Hussein to Che Guevara you will clearly see evidence of this blow-back affect. In fact to my detractors who lambasted my challenge of ‘Loose Change’ the popular docu-fantasy of the events that surrounded 9/11, in private emails, all I asked was if the person had watched the three-hour feed taking apart that movie piece, by piece by piece. Some blatantly stated no they had not. Now, some of these people are applauding Congressman Ron Paul and I do find that interesting. I would repost the link to that three-hour feed, but it is up to you to search my previous article for it.

Now, I am going to ask my detractors once more to watch a feed called Secrets of the CIA which chronicles our use of the CIA to topple many governments and our blunders in foreign policy. To my detractors; do you have at least one and a half hour to watch this feed since you did not watch the other three-hour feed?

When Rudy Giuliani stated of this blow-back affect, "I don't think I've heard that before," In my opinion he has no business being the president of the United States if he does not understand or know of our history. Does Rudy Giuliani know that we used the CIA in the Congo which led to 3.7 million deaths?

When Ron Paul cited how we sanctioned Iraq during the Clinton administration after Bush Sr. left office, according to George Galloway one million Iraqis died as a result of being starved and being denied medicine. This was due to the sanctions put in place by the United Nations.

This is the statement made by George Galloway when he was summoned before our senate subcommittee looking into the oil for food scandal on May 17th, 2005, “I gave my political life's blood to try to stop the mass killing of Iraqis by the sanctions on Iraq which killed one million Iraqis, most of them children, most of them died before they even knew that they were Iraqis, but they died for no other reason other than that they were Iraqis with the misfortune to born at that time. I gave my heart and soul to stop you committing the disaster that you did commit in invading Iraq. And I told the world that your case for the war was a pack of lies.”

Giuliani also stated, “I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for Sept. 11." To that I add; is it possible and yes probable that some terrorists did come to hate us especially when they saw our deadly foot print during those years kill one million Iraqis? Isn’t is at least possible, Rudy, that this and other actions coming from our government angered these terrorists and their only recourse was to answer us back? If you cannot see that Rudy, again, you have no business being president. It had nothing to do with our freedoms but their hatred towards this government. To those that saw the results of our sanctions killing one million innocent people, it was not absurd to them.

In reading this article I zeroed in on this passage, “Paul was responding to a question about the origins of terrorist attacks on US soil and noted the generations-long history of US involvement in Middle East politics, including a CIA-sponsored coup to overthrow Iran's leader in 1953” Yes, if one actually sits and watches that hour and a half feed Secrets of the CIA, they do mention this Iranian coup. In that coup we put in place the Shah of Iran and the blow-back to that was when the Ayatollah Khomeini came to power with his anti-American sentiment. It has been in place ever since. In fact it is he who controls Iran’s military under the Iranian Constitution. Not their president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Does Rudy Giuliani even know that?

While I hate to give this terrorist, Osama bin Laden a venue, one can read his edicts by going to this link. All I will say which is mentioned in that Secrets of the CIA feed is that he mentions our actions in the Soviet/Afghan war. He also mentions how the Muslim nations take to our occupation of their land. Not to excuse their hateful actions on 9/11, but we should have learned from our past mistakes. We should learn from them now.

Our country has a habit of reacting to events instead of preventing them. Preventing them actually means listening to the intelligence warnings in which President Bush failed at doing. It means that President Bush should have listened to experts like Richard Clarke who is a counter-terrorism expert that served under several administrations. He shouted at the Bush administration to pay attention to al Qaeda and they failed. In fact I did write of a Sixty Minute interview which took place between Richard Clarke and Leslie Stahl in which Clarke stated, “He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We'll never know." He was referring to President Bush.

As it relates to the war in Iraq, we must start changing the way this government operates. Right now as a result of this war we have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and displaced millions more. Are we in fact setting ourselves up for the next terrorist attack? We have just successfully campaigned on behalf of terrorists groups like al Qaeda.

Lastly to the Republican Party as a whole; when will you demand of your president, George W. Bush that he actually fulfills his promise to capture Osama bin Laden? You know the monster that was responsible for 9/11? I would also like to question; how is it that we came to invade a guiltless country meanwhile Osama bin Laden got away Scott-free? You have all misused our armed services and now they are broken. Yet, we are supposed to trust you with national security? I would not trust you with walking my dog. If there were any Republican candidate that should go onto win the Republican nomination, it is Ron Paul. At least he is the only one that has learned from history.

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jpsmith123Ex Government Worker

What evidence do you have that Osama bin Laden did it?

Osama bin Laden: "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States."

by jpsmith123 (3 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 286 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 5:25:49 AM

The author lives in a small village in central Europe and has been active in the local workers movement for nearly 3 decades.

Globalism knows no borders, why should we ?
Tony ForestThe author lives in a small village in central Europe and has been active in the local workers movement for nearly 3 decades.

Globalism knows no borders, why should we ?

more blow-back

please also refer to

http://www.prouty.org/

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ST.html

http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id684.html

can you do this, Mary ?

by Tony Forest (6 articles, 15 quicklinks, 153 diaries, 1350 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 5:38:44 AM

blow-right-back-atcha

another one for Mary ;

click here for the video

and here for the transcript of

"John McMurtry:
Why The Facts Of 9 -11 Are Suppressed"

by Tony Forest (6 articles, 15 quicklinks, 153 diaries, 1350 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 6:12:36 AM

Retire high school English teacher. Grandmother of eight grandchildren, six of them Muslim. Love to travel. Have been to Russia, Spain, Morocco, Crete and Santorini, Cosumel and Chichen Itza. Alas, not enough places. However, the ocean anywhere satisfies the soul.
ChristieRetire high school English teacher. Grandmother of eight grandchildren, six of them Muslim. Love to travel. Have been to Russia, Spain, Morocco, Crete and Santorini, Cosumel and Chichen Itza. Alas, not enough places. However, the ocean anywhere satisfies the soul.

Links for Significant Education on 9/11

I am disappointed that you still consider that you are educated about 9/11 conspiracy theories because you watched “Loose Change” Instead, I suggest you should read what scientists, military men and scholars have to say. Here are four links for a start on a significant education on the topic. A movie--really!!!

A physicist analyzes the collapse of the towers.
Major New Paper Published by Dr. Steven Jones | 911Blogger.com
http://www.911blogger.com/node/8573
If you really want a scientific article about the facts instead of uninformed emotional statements, access the Website above. Not easy reading. Very heavy on use of physics to analyze the situation.

If you would like a sensible, clear statement of the belief that we do not know the truth, google 9/11truth.org or scholars for 911truth

For an impresive list of military men, Senators, etc:
Patriots Question 9/11
Military Men, Intelligence Service, Government Officials

http://patriotsquestion911.com/#Davis

by Christie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 143 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 8:43:19 AM

Rasoul Acheh

If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again...

Of the all the lies, the U.S. government has offered in constructing it's alibi, for the 9/11 attacks, the idea of "Blow-Back", is the most prominent. This ridiculous assertion, requires us to believe that foreign "terrorists", angered by U.S. policies, got so mad, they came all the way over here, to do 9/11 as payback! Even if one is dumb enough to accept such foolishness, the government has so far failed to offer an explanation, of how this so-called blow-back succeeded, in the face of our multi-trillion dollar defense, and political, establishment? Evidently, we're supposed to believe all this, just because they said it! While there are some people in the country gullible enough to fall for such a lame story, most Americans would prefer an factual explanation, an independent investigation, and holding whoever was in charge that day, responsible for their obvious malfeasance, or treason, whichever applies! The key to the entire 9/11 case, lies therein! To date, no credible explanation, investigation, or accountability, has been forthcoming, except of course the all too bogus, "plausible denial", of the "intelligence failure"! People responsible have gotten away, and are even guilty of further violations of their oaths of office. 9/11 has therefore been covered up, and whitewashed in classic Washington fashion!

The blow-back alibi may be politically correct and therefore readily offered for public consumption. It's obviously intended, for the 'dead from the neck up' crowd, so numerous among contemporary Americans. This is borne out by the fact, that even the so-called "terrorists", who're supposed to be responsible for 9/11, have strong ties to the U.S. government. Bin Laden is a known CIA asset, while the so-called "Al Qaeda", got it's start, from fighters, funded, and trained, by the CIA to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan! That such students of the CIA, could somehow come all the way to the U.S., and catch their mentors, completely offguard, is far too absurd, to be taken seriously. In addition to "Al Qaeda's" known ties to the CIA, the blow-back alibi, also remains completely unsupported, in actual 9/11 evidence, and should therefore be considered disinformation at best. On the other hand, government complicity in the 9/11 attacks, is not only amply proven by actual 9/11 evidence, but remains the only explanation of 9/11, that fully solves the mystery of how the attacks could have occurred, in the face of our multi-trillion dollar defense, and political, establishment!

by Rasoul Acheh (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 122 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 9:15:24 AM

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I want to repeat here my comment on Rob's blog- on the topic

America, America.. from sea to shining sea

is a bad song, bad verses too. But it reflects the approach correctly: many of our people associate themselves with unlimited power 'from sea to shining sea' as well as 'unlimited goodness'. That approach deserved a repercussion, a sobering blow by the world and that what happened. In sorts, the death of innocent people, the victims was the result of the horrible lack of moral guidance by the rulers of this country as well as their criminal negligence when before or after the event occured. We should have tried and jailed the ones who negligibly brought to this- Bush, Cheney, Condi, Clinton, many others. We should have accused them of abusing their position of power and neglecting their responsiblities thus putting the nation at mortal danger. We should have cleaned our stables.

Because the event had shown to us that we are helpless, that we cannot even punish those of ours who neglected us we in our frustration gave even more power to them, to cover our asses. They then went on a mad rampage killing more and more people and thus endangering us even more. That is the INCONVENIENT TRUTH. And that's why Guiliani scowls an Ron Paul like a guilty toddler who knows the truth but cannot handle it. YES, we here in the US cannot handle a simple truth- that our own betrayed us, that the danger to us came not from some rogue group but as a result of the actions of the people who are like us, similar to us, live with us and claim to be us.

by Mark Sashine (51 articles, 19 quicklinks, 244 diaries, 3454 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 9:30:03 AM

The wind may cry

Mary. Mary may never respond ....or partake in any discussion here or elsewhere. Surely there's a reason for this. You decide.

The blow-back effect is best described by Professor Ward Curchill in his book "On The Justice of Roosting Chickens". Mary, if you haven't read it yet, get it and read it before you continue down the road you're on. Ward is stuck on the blow-back track. Perhaps not. He was the last time I checked. So is Noam C. All the while, you're on the right track.

Remember, LIHOP vs. MIHOP

Read on !

by Tony Forest (6 articles, 15 quicklinks, 153 diaries, 1350 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 11:47:52 AM

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Ron Paul correctly labels 9/11 a blow-back

Thank you for the good article, keep up the good work.

by thebrawl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 12:24:57 PM

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THE BEST EVIDENCE

As I have commented before, the best evidence that 911 was a false flag operation is the ensuing anthrax attack. The anthrax involved was extremely sophisticated, super-weapons-grade with a special treatment designed to eliminate electostatic charges so it could float in the air. Such a refined biowarfare grade anthrax could only be produced by two or three countries in the world. The strain involved was tagged as coming from the U.S. Government BioWarfare Lab at Fort Detrict and a variation on the Ames strain from Ames, Iowa. Additionally, producing and obtaining this type of anthrax requires the wearing of "moonsuits" such that the number of people of interest would be very limited--only those with access to the specific strain at Ft. Detrick within the last few weeks. This number would be a handful of high level security personnel often associated with the NSA or the Pentagon. Despite these facts and the urgent warnings of biological and life scientists to the FBI that the perpertrator had to be one of a handful of persons at Ft. Detrict, the FBI authorized the destruction of the Ames strain virus in Iowa, forclosing forever the ability to establish any chain of custody to the final deadly spores.

Considering that it takes well over one week to produce such a sophisticated biological weapon, we now look at the postmark of the first anthrax letters to Tom Brokaw at NBC Nightly News and to the New York Post. That postmark is September 18, 2001. Subsequent attack letters were sent to the two Senators holding up the US Patriot Act, Senators Daschle and Leahy. These were postmarked October 9, and were slightly more weaponized than the media letters. We learn from the September 18 postmark that someone within the military industrial establishment (access to the highly weaponized anthrax) almost certainly knew of the coming 911 event and used the previously manufactured anthrax to instill fear in the media of asking too many questions about the official story. Then, when the Democratic leadership attempted to thwart this bloodless coup, they were warned with an even more insidious spore that no dissension would be permitted.

The proof is in the pudding. There has been almost no press coverage of one of the greatest crimes ever committed against the government of the United States and the failure of the FBI to address or solve that crime. Meanwhile, the Congress, the most important branch of government under our Constitution, which was attacked unquestionably by someone with access to our own biowarfare materiel, has not seen fit to so much as convene an investigative committee to determine why the FBI has had no success in solving a crime with so few suspects. And the war in Iraq goes on and on, and the elephants have long memories.

by W.M.L. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 324 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 1:43:16 PM

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richardKent State, Graduate work in philosophy of logic, of science, Ph.D. SIU neuroscientist, forensic neuropsychologist, PostDoc Medical College of Ohio, Preferred activities: Restoring British motorcycles, cars, Matchless, Austin Healey, Triumph, Jaguar, building an engine, programming a computer. Other stuff: SDS 1968, antiwar,911 truth advocate, anticorporatist, anti-classist, anti-neocon, pissed off. Best thing: Father. Blessed.

'blow back' is just blow.

When the obvious idiocy of 'they attacked us for our freedoms' began wearing thin, there was always the 'left-wing' pundocracy's meme of 'blow back' to take its place. The allure of 'blow back' has always been it's ability to engender identification from those in the U.S. at least marginally familiar with the evils committed by America abroad in the middle east. Everybody can relate to the notion of 'getting even'.

Of course, however, the 'blow back' meme is also false. Understanding even the slightest bit of the history and purpose of CIA/propaganda and black ops in the middle east leads one to understand that the accurately named 'Al-CIA-DA' and the fake 'War On Terra' were created to at least

1. keep the military industrial complex making money afer the end of the cold war and

2. to serve as a justification for attacking Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Iran because, after all, we needed to control their (not our) energy resources.

.... and probably other reasons as well....

Ron Paul can use 'blow back' because 'complicity' would not fly. The truth never flies in politics. But Rudy is still somewhere back mired in the 'they attacked us for our freedoms.....' Clearly a trog. And a complicit one at that.

by richard (0 articles, 5 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 789 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 2:14:02 PM

Mark served for four years on active duty in the Marine Corps infantry, and was a candidate for a municipal office in 2002. Mark has helped raise awareness of military and veterans' issues, by establishing No Anthrax Vaccine. His commentary has been carried by such sites as AntiWar.com. He spends much of his free time reading the great minds of the Austrian school of economics, such as Murray Rothbard, Henry Hazlitt, Ludwig von Mises, et al.
Mark AndersonMark served for four years on active duty in the Marine Corps infantry, and was a candidate for a municipal office in 2002. Mark has helped raise awareness of military and veterans' issues, by establishing No Anthrax Vaccine. His commentary has been carried by such sites as AntiWar.com. He spends much of his free time reading the great minds of the Austrian school of economics, such as Murray Rothbard, Henry Hazlitt, Ludwig von Mises, et al.

Thanks for your article, Mary

It is sad how we must depend upon virtually one man to speak truth to power. Ron Paul is 71 years old, who should be able to live in retirement. He does this because he loves his country, and you an even hear it in his voice as he speaks. He speaks from the heart, unlike the rest of the stiff and scripted costumed hacks.

Thank you for taking the time to write this, Mary. Ron Paul is such a true hero, and what is frustrating is the way the mainstream media tries to portray an exchange between Rudy Giuliani and Ron Paul as a victory for Rudy when Ron Paul clearly had the upperhand in both style and substance. Rudy Giuliani was just a plain old pompous ass.

by Mark Anderson (8 articles, 2 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 46 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 5:31:01 PM

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Straight "blowback" was initially a plausible theory.

Until all the stubborn facts got in the way.

As I may have stated here before, I believe that, to the extent "Arab extremists" flew planes into buildings in the U.S. on 09/11/2001, they were recruited, supported, protected and managed by deep-cover Israeli agents-provocateurs.

At some point, the operation obviously became a joint effort involving the Bush/Cheney terror team.

I would guess that the plan originated in Tel-Aviv and/or in the Neocon network in the U.S.

Probably Cheney was approached well before the election by some "high-ranking" Jewish supremacists, and informed that they had uncovered an ambitious Al Queda plot to attack the U.S. with hijacked civilian planes.

Then the joint Israeli/Cheney/Bush team of course decided it would ultimately be in the best interests of Israel and the U.S., to allow the attack (that the Jewish supremacist part of the team had in fact instigated) to occur.

Then other operatives were brought in on an as-needed basis. Let's face it, if you're a corrupt ruler, the great thing about the compartmentalized, need-to-know, top-down security system in the U.S., it that it can be easily compromised from the top.

Thus you need to bring in, say, Rudy Giuliani, for example. You call him to Washinton, patronize him, play up to his vanity, tell him there's an attack coming and you've decided it will be in America's best interests over the long term to let it happen, and Giuliani doesn't need to know everything you know, nor does anyone else necessarily need to know what Giuliani knows, etc.

That's most likely how this false-flag operation was pulled off, IMO.

by jpsmith123 (3 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 286 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 5:41:51 PM

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jpsmith123Ex Government Worker

Here's a must-see 9/11 video.

(Apologists should ingest a liberal dose of xanax before viewing).

No_Explosives?

by jpsmith123 (3 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 286 comments) on Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 9:54:04 PM

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog:
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
johndoraemiJohn Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog:
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

"Blowback" makes the 9/11 official theory plausible,

it doesn't prove what happened.

It was most unfortunate that Ron Paul relied on the fraudulent "9/11 Commission Report" to make his case. This report is thoroughly debunked, a sham, a whitewash, clearly missing important topics and edited by Bush administration member Phillip Zelikow. This is the worst conflict of interest cover up since the Warren Commission (which you probably also know nothing about).

This is more ignorant reactionary shit about Loose Change. Will you get over yourself and your Popular Mechanics education about global realities.

"I did once believe in these conspiracy theories, but chose to educate myself instead of following the pack."

No, you didn't. You settled for the left gatekeeper narrative. There are many "progressive" rags that subscribe to the blowback theory. Of course there is such thing as blowback, and no one ever denied it (except perhaps Giuliani).

What you really have no education about whatsoever is that western intelligence agencies sponsor, train, protect, use and sometimes betray terrorists for geopolitical gains. CIA, MI6, MOSSAD, even the French and Germans, among others have protected known terrorists.

Their governments and our government have refused to indict known terrorists for many years. Clinton actually bombed Serbia, illegally, on behalf of Al Qaeda connected opium warlords, called the Kosovo Liberation Army.

Your arrogance is sophomoric and unwarranted. You really are sitting in the dark right now.

I'm currently writing a long article about the Pakistani ISI's involvement in the 9/11 attacks. That's something someone so "educated" as you should know a thing or two about, no? So explain away the wire transfers. I'm all ears.

Crimes of the State

by johndoraemi (17 articles, 12 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 166 comments) on Friday, May 18, 2007 at 11:02:05 PM

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9-11 as Blowback

"Blowback" is as close as we're going to get to the truth about the real reason for 9-11 from any of these mealy-mouthed presidential candidates, regardless of their political party. Don't you think that an otherwise intelligent candidate like Paul or Kucinich would have studied the body of 9-11 Truth evidence by now; been able to think critically about it himself; and come to an informed decision, like millions of relatively ordinary people in this country and around the world have already done?

Blowback! Nice try, Ron, but if you really love this country and want even a snowball's chance in hell of becoming president, you've got to go all in. You've got to tell it like it is and let the chips fall. That will truly be the sign of a real visionary, but I'm not holding my breath. The irony is that if a candidate ever took the big risk and blabbed about 9-11 Truth in a live debate, he'd probably receive more grassroots support than if he didn't.

by Bill Cain (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 287 comments) on Saturday, May 19, 2007 at 5:25:10 PM

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Thank you for the good article, keep up the good work.

by thebrawl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 12:08:20 AM

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Trust

I have no trust in this author and (IMO) you shouldn't either. I refuse to read her writing because I am convinced that she is full of shit and very well may be here to spread disinformation and dissension among us. And I now call for an opednews membership boycott of Mary MacElveen. Let's peacefully show her that such nonsense will not be encouraged here. Please join me.

by RCG (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 348 comments) on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 7:34:20 PM

I am a chemist and able to contribute to the debate about thermite.
gravity32I am a chemist and able to contribute to the debate about thermite.

missing logic

Mary, you have once again missed an essential logical point: even if there was blow-back that does not mean it was the only influence.

There probably was blow-back - how does one explain the 6-fold increase in terrorist events since 9/11 except by accepting that American attacks on moslem soil cause anger.

So let's assume there was anger. Let's assume it was easy for leaders to recruit suicide bombers. Let's assume some of these moslems thought up the idea of using planes to attack the WTC.

What then? They still had to plan and train for it while eluding the FBI. They had to elude staff on four occasions at airports. They had to arrange that there would be no interference with the flights.

That last point is a pretty tall order. And it is not the finish. To get the towers down properly they had to have already placed explosives in the towers.

If blow-back was part of it it was pretty minor compared to what followed.

It is clear you still have not digested what can be deduced from the rapid fall of the three buildings. If you really are working for the truth please look at the peer reviewed papers in the Journal of 9/11 Studies. http://www.journalof911studies.com/

You boast that you have educated yourself about 9/11 - you clearly have not finished that task.

by gravity32 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 157 comments) on Monday, May 28, 2007 at 3:33:02 AM