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October 19, 2007 at 15:36:24

PELOSI FAILS

by Kenneth Briggs

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President Bush’s veto of SCHIP stands. Speaker Pelosi failed to execute one of the most important facets of her job. That is to round up enough votes to override the president’s veto. She fell 13 votes short of reaching the 2/3 majority of those present and voting necessary to override a veto. The vote to override the veto was 273 to 156. The bill was originally approved by a vote of 265 to 159 on September 25, 2007.

First, the Republicans in the Senate stalled debate on the bill by blocking a move to begin negotiating with the house on legislation to re-authorize and expand the State Children’s Health Insurance Program [SCHIP]. According to the Republicans, there are concerns over the scope of the final bill. This move means that an extension is required to continue funding for SCHIP past its September 30 expiration date. Differences in the two bills must be resolved by a joint House-Senate conference committee before the legislation can be passed on to the president for final approval. If a conference report is not produced by September 30, 2007, Congress will need to pass an extension to continue funding for SCHIP, probably at the programs current level.

Next, the House approved the conference report with a vote of 265 to 159 on Tuesday September 25, 2007 and the Senate approved it on Thursday with a 67-29 vote. President Bush has promised to veto it. To overturn a veto, each chamber of Congress must produce a 2/3 majority of those present and voting. Anticipating a veto, Congress will continue funding the program at its current level.

Bush makes good on his promise to veto SCHIP. Hiding behind closed doors, President Bush, on Wednesday, September 26,2007 vetoed the children’s health insurance bill that had passed both houses. As passed by both Houses, The State Children’s Health Insurance Program [SCHIP] would add $35 billion over five years to the program to subsidize health care for 4 million in addition to 6.6 million people currently served. The program is a joint state - federal effort to serve people, mostly children, from families that earn to much to qualify for Medicaid, but not enough to afford their own private insurance. The expansion would primarily be funded by raising the federal cigarette tax to $1 per pack , a 61 cents per pack increase.

Because not enough Republicans stood up to Bush to override the veto, the Democrats have promised to keep sending the bill to Bush, each time increasing the pressure on vulnerable Republicans to support health care for our kids.

Mr, Bush has said he is open to compromise with the Democrats on this bill. Congressman Vern Buchanan [R-FL 13th dist.] has said he will vote to override the veto but if the override should fail he will be among those working on a compromise. Sen. Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader, on the other hand has said, that to win support from Republicans Democrats had compromised and negotiated as much as they were going to. Republican officials have said that the program have said that the program ought to be focused on poor families.

But, the CBS news poll released Wednesday found overwhelming support for expanding the program. 81% say they are in favor of expanding SCHIP and 74% of those in favor would be willing to pay increased taxes to support expansion of SCHIP.

Sources:

1. "House Fails to Override Child Health Care Veto". DAVID STOUT and ROBERT PEAR, The New York Times, October 18, 2007

2. "Bush Makes Good on his Promise to Veto", KENNETH BRIGGS, OpEdNews, October 3, 2007

3."Bush Vetoes Child Insurance Plan", Truthout, October 3, 2007

4. "Buchanan Denounces Partisanship Over Children’s Care Visits Health Clinic To See Benefits of Kidcare" Buchanan Press Release, October 5, 2007

5."CBS NEWS", Poll: Most Back Dems in Kids’ Health Fight, New York, October 17, 2007

 

 
 

 

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I'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com
Mark E. SmithI'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com

Pelosi SUCCEEDED.

Have you forgotten that it was Pelosi who took impeachment off the table? Have you forgotten that in every contested election, Pelosi ignored the evidence and swore in the Republican instead of the Democrat? Pelosi is determined to support Bush and his agenda at all costs, and has succeeded once again.

Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. 

Oh, never mind. Lincoln said you can fool some of the people all of the time, and he knew whereof he spoke. Some folks will believe what they desperately want to believe no matter how much contradictory evidence they have to ignore.  

by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Friday, October 19, 2007 at 9:51:22 PM
 


Born-03/20/1934, BA Pol. Sci.-U of Washington-1956, MBA-Seattle U-1970, Boeing-Program Control-1957-1971, State of Oregon-Mental Health Division-Deputy Admistrator-1971-1979, llinois Association of Community MH Agencies[IACHMA]-Executive Director-1980-1987, District of Columbia Government-MH Division-Chief MH System Development-1987-1989, Illinois Real Estate-Associate Broker-1989-1995, Ohio-Retired-1995-1999, Florida-Retired- 1999-?Operate an eBay book store, Ajax Books Etcetera, which currentl...

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Kenneth BriggsBorn-03/20/1934, BA Pol. Sci.-U of Washington-1956, MBA-Seattle U-1970, Boeing-Program Control-1957-1971, State of Oregon-Mental Health Division-Deputy Admistrator-1971-1979, llinois Association of Community MH Agencies[IACHMA]-Executive Director-1980-1987, District of Columbia Government-MH Division-Chief MH System Development-1987-1989, Illinois Real Estate-Associate Broker-1989-1995, Ohio-Retired-1995-1999, Florida-Retired- 1999-?Operate an eBay book store, Ajax Books Etcetera, which currentl...

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Pelosi fails

 

I would agree with you if you could convince me that she is a "double"agent. But you haven't done so, all you've convinced me of is that she is very inept and/or doesn't understand that her job is to enforce the will of the people. Please Dear God, give us a few old fashioned DEMOCRATS who understand that you should "dance with the one who brung you". Two Democratic presidential hopefulls understand that; Mr. Kucinich and Mr. Gravel.

by Kenneth Briggs (125 articles, 88 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 108 comments) on Friday, October 19, 2007 at 10:29:19 PM
 


Hi,
I'm a 66 year old woman, married with 3 children, 4 grandchildren, and 2 great grandchildren. I grew up in a family of 8 children. I work in Child Protective Services, with parents who either have abused or neglected their children or who are at risk of child abuse and neglect (generally due to such things as mental health issues, or abuse/neglect because of alcohol/drug use and/or abuse). I have worked in this field for the past 23 years. Poverty is a huge issue for families with wh...

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Crystal PurcellHi,
I'm a 66 year old woman, married with 3 children, 4 grandchildren, and 2 great grandchildren. I grew up in a family of 8 children. I work in Child Protective Services, with parents who either have abused or neglected their children or who are at risk of child abuse and neglect (generally due to such things as mental health issues, or abuse/neglect because of alcohol/drug use and/or abuse). I have worked in this field for the past 23 years. Poverty is a huge issue for families with wh...

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Pressure Pelosi

Every American who wants to see change in America NOW and not wait until Bush leaves office (if he does) needs to e-mail people in the House and Senate (not just Democrats) and let them know how they feel about what is happening to our Country. It is time to take back America, to stop caving in to this administration and their temper tantrums. It is important for Democrats to come forward with simple firm statements: "We will never vote to give immunity to telecoms because the president says we should. The American people deserve to know why they need immunity and the American people deserve to know that they are not being wiretapped without reason and without warrant". "We will not allow this president to deny health care to children". "We will not give more money to this president to continue this illegal war". . . and the list goes on. Come on America. Flood your Congressmen/women with e-mail. Demand that they REPRESENT you. We did not elect them to make decisions exclusive of our input. We expect them to listen and respond accordingly.

 

by Crystal Purcell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 47 comments) on Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 9:59:06 AM
 


Lynn Beckman is a freelance writer and political activist. She resides in Colorado with her husband and teenage son.
Lynn BeckmanLynn Beckman is a freelance writer and political activist. She resides in Colorado with her husband and teenage son.

Pelosi Fails

Pelosi has failed at everything she has attempted. Prior to being appointed Speaker, she railed about how incompetent Bush was. After Katrina, she called him clueless and dangerous. But now that she's the Speaker, she seems to have forgotten all of his dastardly deeds and, indeed, seems to want to hand him whatever he wants - - - gift wrapped!!! I'm starting to believe that she is one of them. I have officially withdrawn from the Democratic Party and registered as an Independent. I just refused to donate to the DNC and told the person who called that until the War in Iraq is ended and Impeachment proceeding begin, I will not donate another dollar. I've also written to Senators and Congresspeople telling them that if they want to keep their jobs, they had better start supporting Impeachment. They need to understand that Americans are sick to death of their do-nothing attitude!

by Lynn Beckman (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 27 comments) on Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 11:51:54 AM
 


I'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com
Mark E. SmithI'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com

Ken, please read this article:

 If you are still thinking that representatives can be pressured into representing their constituency, you are wrong. They cannot.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/13/4512/

 Impeachment advocates reported the results to Cong. Olver from each town meeting. Leverett’s vote was 339-1; Great Barrington was 100-3. No vote in any of the towns or cities was less than a two-third majority “yes” in favor of impeachment, according to long-time activist, Atty. Robert Feuer of Stockbridge, Mass.

 

With three fourths of reports completed Cong. Olver, who voted against the war, raised his hand and said, " Spare me, I know full well the overwhelming majority of my constituency is in favor of impeachment." He then told them he would not sign on to any impeachment resolution whether against Bush or against Cheney (H.Res. 333 introduced by Cong. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)). He was quite adamant.
 
 

by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 12:16:10 PM
 


Born-03/20/1934, BA Pol. Sci.-U of Washington-1956, MBA-Seattle U-1970, Boeing-Program Control-1957-1971, State of Oregon-Mental Health Division-Deputy Admistrator-1971-1979, llinois Association of Community MH Agencies[IACHMA]-Executive Director-1980-1987, District of Columbia Government-MH Division-Chief MH System Development-1987-1989, Illinois Real Estate-Associate Broker-1989-1995, Ohio-Retired-1995-1999, Florida-Retired- 1999-?Operate an eBay book store, Ajax Books Etcetera, which currentl...

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Kenneth BriggsBorn-03/20/1934, BA Pol. Sci.-U of Washington-1956, MBA-Seattle U-1970, Boeing-Program Control-1957-1971, State of Oregon-Mental Health Division-Deputy Admistrator-1971-1979, llinois Association of Community MH Agencies[IACHMA]-Executive Director-1980-1987, District of Columbia Government-MH Division-Chief MH System Development-1987-1989, Illinois Real Estate-Associate Broker-1989-1995, Ohio-Retired-1995-1999, Florida-Retired- 1999-?Operate an eBay book store, Ajax Books Etcetera, which currentl...

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Strongarm them

I guess I have to disagee with you still. They've got to be made to see the light. If they refuse to do what is expended of them, then prepare  to dump them 1. begin by circulating petitions to impeach them;2. line up one or more viable alternatives to them to run in the next election for their position and publicize that they're going to have opposition in the next primaries; for a low cost way to begin, use your computers to prepare and print impeachment and campaign materials and your feet to deliver them door to door. By going door to door you'll find more volunteers then you ever dreamed of; try it. You'll scare the bejesus out of the imcompetent office holders. yes, I do believe they can be pressured to do right. Get down and dirty, you can do it.

by Kenneth Briggs (125 articles, 88 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 108 comments) on Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 12:58:42 PM
 


I'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com
Mark E. SmithI'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com

And as for voting.....

In a 2005 election in Ohio there were three election reform measures on the ballot that, according to mainstream media polls a week before the election were favored by voters 70% to 30%.

When the results of the election came in, all three measures had lost, 70% to 30%.

Have you ever heard of vote-flipping programs that cause computerized voting machines and central tabulators to count votes for X as votes for Y, and vice versa? If not, you should do a little research. Start with the archives on bradblog.com and also right here on opednews.com    Look in the writers' list here for Joan Brunwasser, our opednews Election Integrity editor, and read some of the articles that Joan has posted over the years.

"Elected" officials don't need your vote and don't care what you want. They answer only to the military-industrial complex that selected them, groomed them, got them "elected," and gives them their marching orders. That goes for both Republicans and Democrats, with a few rare and powerless exceptions like Kucinich.

If you have a barrel full of rotten apples, and you put one or two good apples into the barrel, do you think they will make the other apples good?

It is, as opednews' own Joel Hirschhorn writes, time to boycott elections. Or as the old Wobblies used to say, "Don't vote -- it only encourages them!"

--Mark

by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 12:29:57 PM
 


Born-03/20/1934, BA Pol. Sci.-U of Washington-1956, MBA-Seattle U-1970, Boeing-Program Control-1957-1971, State of Oregon-Mental Health Division-Deputy Admistrator-1971-1979, llinois Association of Community MH Agencies[IACHMA]-Executive Director-1980-1987, District of Columbia Government-MH Division-Chief MH System Development-1987-1989, Illinois Real Estate-Associate Broker-1989-1995, Ohio-Retired-1995-1999, Florida-Retired- 1999-?Operate an eBay book store, Ajax Books Etcetera, which currentl...

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Kenneth BriggsBorn-03/20/1934, BA Pol. Sci.-U of Washington-1956, MBA-Seattle U-1970, Boeing-Program Control-1957-1971, State of Oregon-Mental Health Division-Deputy Admistrator-1971-1979, llinois Association of Community MH Agencies[IACHMA]-Executive Director-1980-1987, District of Columbia Government-MH Division-Chief MH System Development-1987-1989, Illinois Real Estate-Associate Broker-1989-1995, Ohio-Retired-1995-1999, Florida-Retired- 1999-?Operate an eBay book store, Ajax Books Etcetera, which currentl...

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Elect outstanding election officials

Yes, I've heard of all the dirty tricks used to steal elections and they can all be stopped by electing honest election officials. I currently live in the 13th dist. of Florida. In my opinion, 1/2, Sarasota county stole the election for the Republican, the other 1/2, Manatee county voted for the Dem but did not have enough votes to offset Sarasota county. I believe the election officer in Manatee county is honest. In the past, I have lived in Ohio, Illinois, Texas, Oregon and Washington. The bad and good, guess which is bad and which is good.

by Kenneth Briggs (125 articles, 88 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 108 comments) on Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 1:17:44 PM
 


I am a common man who wants to preserve our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Corporations as individuals should be changed in a court of law. Eliminate the drug war. Stop foreign aid, including Israel, until we are debt free ourselves. As a right to our inheritance of the assets and wealth of this country, at the very least free medical and dental ought to be made available to every citizen. The Mexican illegal alien invasion will be thwarted when owners who hire them go to prison. 5 year morito...

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kevns007I am a common man who wants to preserve our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Corporations as individuals should be changed in a court of law. Eliminate the drug war. Stop foreign aid, including Israel, until we are debt free ourselves. As a right to our inheritance of the assets and wealth of this country, at the very least free medical and dental ought to be made available to every citizen. The Mexican illegal alien invasion will be thwarted when owners who hire them go to prison. 5 year morito...

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Pelosi did us a favor

Pelosi has merely shown to we the people that politicians are useless.   Oligarchy and Fascism control our Government and elected politicians are impotent.  It's time for the people, we the people, to rise up and take back our democracy.  We, the people, also know that war needs to be obsolete, just as slavery and cannibalism, in the human experience.  The few who promote it are profiteers, the religiously insane, and of course the South.  They love war.  It's up to the rest of us to form some kind of National strike and form it knowing the above "dissidents" won't lift a fucking finger.  Anyway, that's the only solution I can see.  Anybody got a better idea  before it's too late?  The CILFs (Civilian Inmate Labor Facility) are being built all over the country as we sit here and watch the politicians waste time.

by kevns007 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 8:08:41 PM
 

 

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