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JFK and 9/11

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Doug Thompson recently recounted a discussion he had many years ago with John Connally, the Texas governor who was shot during the Kennedy assassination.



Connolly was both gracious and charming and told us many stories about Texas politics. As the evening wore on and the multiple bourbon and branch waters took their effect, he started talking about November 22, 1963, in Dallas.


"You know I was one of the ones who advised Kennedy to stay away from Texas," Connally said. "Lyndon (Johnson) was being a real asshole about the whole thing and insisted."


Connally's mood darkened as he talked about Dallas. When the bullet hit him, he said he felt like he had been kicked in the ribs and couldn't breathe. He spoke kindly of Jackie Kennedy and said he admired both her bravery and composure.


I had to ask. Did he think Lee Harvey Oswald fired the gun that killed Kennedy?


"Absolutely not," Connally said. "I do not, for one second, believe the conclusions of the Warren Commission."


So why not speak out?


"Because I love this country and we needed closure at the time. I will never speak out publicly about what I believe."



I'd gone back and forth on the JFK thing, it seemed possible to make arguments both ways. But once I started researching 9/11, and understood more about how this kind of thing is done, it became quite obvious that JFK, as well as RFK, were not shot by "lone gunmen".


When I'd looked at this before, it didn't seem that relevant. At worst, a historical injustice.


My point of view has changed.


In many, many ways, the JFK assassination set the stage. It proved to those who did it that you could do something that dramatic, that heinous to the average citizen, and get away with it. It proved that you could fabricate a cover story and that the press would cooperate . It proved that you could quash dissent and investigation. And it proved that you could do it in America.


There seems to be a strong feeling on the left that, somehow, 9/11 is irrelevant. That to focus on it distracts from "real" issues such as Iraq and domestic spying. Again, almost to minimize the importance of 9/11, treat it as bygone history, and concentrate only on the misuse of the event by the administration.


There are a number of problems with this approach. It leaves in place the people that did it, and the mechanisms used for covering it up. It leaves in place the use of the "war on terror" as justification for the current administration's abuses, and allows the 9/11 rallying cry to continued to be used, and often accepted, to justify these abuses. And it leaves open the very distinct possibility that this kind of attack will be used again to justify further abuses.


There's a misconception that there is no proof for 9/11 being an inside job. There's plenty of proof. Obstruction of investigation before and after the fact, the NORAD failure, buildings collapsing in ways that could only be explained by planted explosives, planes being flown in ways the alleged hijackers could not have flown them, some of those very hijackers still being alive. There isn't just one smoking gun here - there are dozens of them (this is a good place to start research). What the left seems to want is some sort of "official" acknowledgement, one that will never come - just as Connally would never acknowledge publicly what he knew.


There is a strong tendency to deny and try to explain away the evidence. Part of the difficulty in accepting the reality behind 9/11 is confronting the significance not just of the nature of the event but what it and the surrounding cover-up implies. The harder part is not necessarily believing that some people in our own country would do such a thing, but that the entire government and media would assist in the deception that followed. An essay in 911truth.org says it best:

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I wrote this in Y2005:it is still relevant

From Fascism to Bushism: the more things change, the more they stay the same Providence brought me here… A.Hitler I speak to the Higher Father.. G.W. Bush Our pundits, the ones that write for money are pathetic crooks and malignant posers. Whenever they write about any events they always try to emphasize the psychology, the ‘ people’, the ‘masses’. It is amazing how those proponents of the free market use and abuse the classical Marxist language. As if they studied in the Soviet schools all those clichés of the communist propaganda to use those in any case and for any occasion. What a crock! Thus, when they talk Hitler or Bush or, God forbid, try to draw a connection, they always talk about the ‘German national pride’ or ‘American traditional conservatism’, about the ’fervor of the Nazism’ or about the ‘consistency of Bush and Republicans’, so whoever reads or listens to that nonsense becomes convinced that there was and is some historical inevitability taking place, something powerfully destined but at the same time unpredictable, so who are we to try to stop it. That is, of course, bullshit. Bushism uses the classical fascist methodology exactly because it resembles its predecessor as a societal anomaly; in no way it represents anything but the cancerous cell on the body of Humanity and as any cancer it had its causes and can be cured at an early stage. If it is not contained it spreads until Humanity takes care of it, sometimes with big sacrifices. But it is not an inevitability at all. Bushism has a lot in common with the Hitler’s fascism in its methods, although in its goals it is a doppelganger, an evil reflection, something bizarre, topsy- turvy. Maybe the best definition for it is a genetically altered fascism, a freak formation, some kind of an urban legend coming to life. But the big three- Motive, Method and Opportunity are the same as it was in 1930s. And those present the striking similarities. Motive. In both cases the motive is FEAR. In 1932-1933 in the Weimar Republic it was the fear of the ruling German aristocratic/military/industrial oligarchy of the rising Social- Democratic workers’ movement. It was not that they were threatened in their very existence. But they felt that they had to start sharing power, the one they maintained for centuries. Germany was threatened from within by the growing discontent of the poor and from outside- by the foreign industrial competition. Their profits were falling and traditional ways to prosper did not work anymore. They had to change, to adapt, to agree to the representation of the trade- unions, also to include into their closed power elite strangers and nouvo- rich Jews. Otherwise they were facing a growing influence of communists. In that situation they brought in and used the dark force of the far – right to do the dirty job for them. Fear was also the primary motivation in the efforts of the group that brought Bush to power in the US. Only it was the different kind of fear. It was the fear of the people of the US, the fear of the nation forming at last. For decades the big business and political elite ruled the disconnected country by manipulating the differences. They did all they could so that people did not unite in common cause, whatever that cause might be. They used the entire propaganda machine to direct the people’s energy and skills towards the individualistic goals and instigated the irrational fear of communism as a reason for the freaky militarization. They directed the administration, whatever it was; they controlled Congress and, to some level, the judiciary. With respect to the common people they were very good in making them dependent, destroying their way of influence and fiercely disconnecting them as a nation by instigating the idea that every group had its own, special interests to fight for. All of that started to change in 1960s and especially in 1990s after the official collapse of communism. It became obvious even to the most stubborn people that the people of the US had to turn inwards to solve their national problems put aside for a long time. And to do that they first had to become a nation. Nation has one voice. It is the voice of those who represent it. People started to look at their governing system, their representation more closely. They started to ask questions. They initiated national trends, like a plight for a universal healthcare or an affirmative action. They craftily used the law to promote the national goals. People of America woke up and started to move. They were uniting nationally, races and groups aside. It was only a matter of time. That time was not to be given to them. The dogs of the elite sung a threat like those canaries in the mines. The nation of the US meant the end to the old order. The big and powerful could not stand it. They got scared. And from that Fear came Bush. Method. In both cases the power was seized by the political intrigue. Weimar Republic was a Presidential Democracy. President Hindenburg, though old, was a loyal tool of the powerful rulers and in full control of the Reichwer, the German army. In 1932 the Nazis in Coalition with the Nationalists won the majority in Reichstag, but, per previous agreements von Pappen, the nationalist was appointed Chancellor with strong military support. Hitler and his party were pushed aside by the big money. They had to find a new way. That way was found through corruption. The perspective of the scandal associated with the uncovering that Hindenburgh got a gift from the rich landowners in a form of the Noideck estate shattered the coalition. Hitler approached Hindenburgh again and promised him that if he became a Chancellor that story would be buried. Hindenburgh this time decided to let it be and appointed Hitler a Chancellor. Thus simple greed in combination with the political disarray made it possible for Hitler to take power without trouble. The people didn’t even notice anything for a while. The Republican intrigue in the Y2000 started in the Y1999 with the Clinton’s impeachment case. Of course, the goal was not to impeach Clinton but to cripple Gore. If Gore became a president after the impeachment he would have won the Y2000 elections easily. No, the idea was to paralyze Clinton and tarnish Gore. It worked. In an unprecedented Y2000 Democratic campaign the incumbent President sat aside and did nothing to support his Party’s candidate. The main ace was taken away from the Gore’s deck. Still, the calculation nearly failed due to those stubborn voters. Bush lost the popular vote and in Florida it became more and more obvious that fraud was on the way. The correct and lawful way was to announce the revote in Florida. Instead of that someone approached the Supreme Court and practically forced them to interfere on Bush’s behalf. We will never find out what happened for 50 years or so. Incidentally, no reporter pursued the story. But it is pretty obvious that there was an intrigue and due to that intrigue GW was suddenly elevated to the position he was not worthy of and of which he would never dream about at normal circumstances. Opportunity. In both cases the next step was to either paralyze or dismantle the democratic process, so that to guarantee the ruling elite that it would have its domination for quite a while. The promises had to be fulfilled. Hitler had to solve this problem on both sides. Parliamentary democracy and nationalists’ control over the army did not allow him to go forward with his plans of national revival as he saw it (at least he had some vision, though insane). At the same time the elite was displeased with his SA comrades, his old guard, who wanted to use the power for their own enrichment. The opportunity brought a deal: Hitler decided to betray his own comrades in return receiving a ‘free hands’ option from the elite in his treatment of the Parliament. Goering’s henchmen burned the Reichstag and communists were immediately accused. Hitler assumed the emergency powers and ordered new elections. 99% of the voters voted for his party this time and the power seizure was complete. Hitler proclaimed the ‘1000 years of the 3rd Reich’. At about the same time in the “ Night of Long Knives’, Hitler killed Rem and many of his former friends as well as some of the prominent anti- Nazi generals like von Schleicher. Reichswer became Vermacht and Hitler became its new Commander-in Chief. In the years 2000-2001 it became more and more obvious to the ruling elite in the US that Bush was unfit as a leader. He was a pathetic shadow of his father. He also was unstable, moody and lazy. All of that meant that either another candidate was to be sought or some opportunity was to be developed to transform the Bush’s image from the bumbling nothing to something more suitable. Such opportunity could only be some crisis, preferably war, big enough to redefine the Bush’s role and small enough not to rock the boat too hard. The 9/11-terror attack was a perfect thing. Again, we most likely will not know the truth about 9/11 for 50 years or so. But the plausible hypothesis is that although there was no conspiracy in the US government to perform that act, there was a ‘deliberate blind eye’ policy. Signals were ignored, information hidden, actions delayed. There was a lot of deliberate negligence. At the same time it looks like at least the act itself caught everyone with their pants down: the elite wanted something like that to happen but not that big, that destructive, that deadly. The ‘ smart’ were outsmarted by the events and fell into the fit of black rage and fear. Of course, they had to move quickly to avoid being held accountable. That’s why we never had a trial of 9/11. That’s why we had Patriot Act. That’s why we have wars. That’s why our Pretzel is now so adored. Billions of dollars were poured into the propaganda machine to use an opportunity and redirect the people from the real painful questions: who, why, to whose benefit. Of course, the goal was achieved; we now have a ‘divine- guided simpleton’ adored by ‘the nation’ leading us all to Hell. He has no vision like Hitler and the only people he can sacrifice are we. That’s what he is doing. As I mentioned before, Bushism is an imitation. It does not have any national aspect. It is as usurpation when power is seized by a shallow, selfish group of people, who have no long-term strategies. That does not mean they would not pretend that they have some. It is a game but a bloody one. The only thing those people want is to’ rule as before’, when the nation did not exist and the US government was just a source of money for the ruthless. Such strategy, of course, is doomed. As methods are the same, the same is also the destiny. Though doomed the anomaly is dangerous beyond belief. It has nothing to lose and it has nothing to preserve. Bushists are destructionists. They are incompetent, stupid, cruel and scared. Such combination can easily destroy the whole country especially because they don’t care. That is maybe a primary source of discontent. For the fist time in the history of the US its administration does not care for the nation’s welfare. They don’t care. If only our fellow- Americans understand that before it is too late.

by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Apr 13, 2006 at 3:02:26 PM

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JFK & 9/11

To further expand your information I would suggest reading the following ; "JFK The CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F Kennedy" by Fletcher Prouty with a preface by Oliver Stone which in itself is an education. I would further suggest reading "George Bush, The Unauthorized Biography' By Webster Tarpley ( available free online). To continue to find even more information just type " High Cabal" into your search engine. Go to WSWS (World Socialist Web Site). Also.. On the Propaganda Matrix web site Look for everything you can find on the Bilderberg Group..in their archives also. If those don't validate and educate you even further than Jon Koreins' informational article on what is really going on and has been going on in our country and doesn't lead you to further research I would be very surprised. To the comment by Panurg, good info but feel that Tarpley & David Ray Griffen clarify & expand on your comments. (Both online) To learn about the Bilderberg Group is essential because they are the ones whose goals of global domination of the worlds assets is the driving force behind all that is going on...(past & present) You think you'd vote for Hillary if she ran? Are you aware that Bill Clinton is a member of the Bilderberg Group? As are many among them that you will recognize by name as well as the corporate entities they represent. Our Secret government that runs our 'in your face government'!..Check out Trilaterists too...Bill C. was one of them first.(as are many among our elected). 9/11 was "made in the USA" for sure.. Anyone with a lick of sense could see for themselves it was a controlled demolition. Research it.. Tarpleys' "9/11 Synthetic Terror-made in USA" is a good start as is the 9/11 link from OpEd. And don't forget Bldg #7 that rarely gets a mention..2 tiny fires but it also collapsed at free fall speed...just like the twin towers..Is that a wake up call for anyone?? There isn't a governmental agency that isn't full of corruption so don't expect the FBI or CIA or any of the numerous others to be a part of what we thought was what our Country stood for, or expect them to in any way offer any form of help for or to the people. They are part of the terrorist network we need to fear. What we were brought up to beleive our Nation was, is a myth in large part. True America IS there, but it resides at this time only within the hearts of the people in this Nation who believe in this country, The Constitution, and The Bill of Rights. We need to band together and rid our country of the greed and corruption of the Corporate Elite and bring our Nation to where & what we know it could be. We need to educate ourselves with the truth and pass it along to everyone we know as well as to our children. Do you not see how transparant it has become of late, how bold the lies, and at the same time a growing awareness among the people who ARE AMERICA, and who are beginning to pull away from the brain washing by the no news media? The news media is corporate controlled and that is why we hear only lies and cover up from them. Encourage everyone to turn off the no news and research for truth. If we don't begin the momentum it will soon be too late. What is planned for us would make the detention camps of WW2 and the eradication of the Jewish people look like a cake walk. Take what you learn to your county Political headquarters and make sure they are talking the truth and backing those that do..attend those meetings and speak up. Watch your back Truth Seekers..we live in dangerous times where the truth isn't welcomed by all.

by Rae (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 230 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Apr 14, 2006 at 6:23:06 PM

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