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June 3, 2007 at 13:43:41

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Religious Fundamentalists, Militant Atheists: Both Are Misguided and Dangerous

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Religious Fundamentalists, Militant Atheists: Both Are  Misguided and Dangerous 

It’s time to move on from the limitations and dogma of traditional religion and evolve to a higher level of consciousness as practiced in pantheism and Buddhism. 

                                     By J.F. Miglio  

Famed mythologist Joseph Campbell once remarked that being a member of an organized religion is a sure-fire way for a person not to have a spiritual experience.  In other words, many people get so hung up on the rituals and traditions of their religion (or their rejection of it, as with atheists), they miss the most important aspect of the religion itself:  a chance to achieve a higher level of consciousness and commune with the source of life.

 

To make matters worse, millions of individuals around the word take their holy books (the Old Testament, New Testament, Koran, etc.) literally and justify all kinds of close-minded and destructive behavior, from damning disbelievers to hell to torturing or killing them for their opposing views or beliefs.

 

It is beyond all scope of logic and reason how individuals in the 21st century can read their respective holy books and interpret them literally, especially since these books were compiled centuries ago as collections of myths, parables, and didactic stories. 

 

In contrast, does anyone today take the Greek myths literally?  Does anyone believe that Hercules performed super human feats of strength during his 12 labors, like choking the Nemean lion to death or capturing Cerberus, the vicious guardian of Hades?

 

Perhaps once upon a time in ancient Greece the masses believed in those myths as literal truth, but I doubt very seriously if the disciples of Plato or Aristotle did.  And I haven’t met any modern-day Greeks who want to damn me to hell or blow my brains out because I don’t believe in the 12 labors of Hercules as literal truth.

 

Yet today’s fundamentalist Christians do just that. Their most vocal leaders, like the late Jerry Falwell-- God rest his smarmy soul!-- routinely blamed all of society’s ills on gays and liberals, and Pat Robertson, the mean-spirited religious huckster who once ran for president, actually encouraged the CIA to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.  Needless to say, they were both strong supporters of George W. Bush and his unnecessary and destructive war in Iraq.

 

Even more supportive of the war were neoconservative Jews like William Kristol and Richard Perl, who egged Bush into invading Iraq in the first place.  I don’t know if these guys believe in a literal translation of the Old Testament, but they may as well, given their bellicose brand of politics and alliance with fundamentalist Christians and right-wing Israelis. 

 

Not to be outdone, Islamic fundamentalists have one-upped their Christian and Jewish counterparts by becoming suicide bombers and killing innocent civilians in the name of Allah.

The truth is, it doesn’t matter which religion these proponents of hate and war represent, they all share the same feature-- a misguided and dangerous pathology that their religious/political beliefs are right because God is on their side.

 

This is where the militant atheists come in.  Madeline Murray O’Hair was the first atheist I remember to make a big splash on the American scene back in the 1970s.  She debated many religious leaders at the time and basically told all of them they were full of sh-t and that only idiots believed in an irrational sky God.  Ironically, Ayn Rand, the goddess of “free trade” conservatives, was also an atheist, and once admonished William F. Buckley Jr. for essentially the same thing.

 Renewing this argument on the contemporary scene are members of the scientific community who write books with self-evident titles like Sorry, You Can’t Prove the Existence of God! (a concept most of us learned in junior high school, if not sooner), and atheists who tell us how terrible religion is, as Christopher Hitchens does in his new book, God is Not Great:  How Religion Poisons Everything.  Hitchens, of course, was the darling of the left until he sold out and supported the war in Iraq, so I don’t think we should take him too seriously about any subject. The reality is, today’s scientific skeptics and neo-atheists are not saying anything new since Madeline Murray O’Hair.  Everyone knows you can’t prove the existence of God, and no one would deny that many atrocities have been committed in the name of religion.  Of course, the best line on the subject goes to the French writer Stendhal:  The only excuse for God is that he doesn’t exist.”  

In any case, skeptics and atheists are right when they maintain that society would be better off without the close-minded and dogmatic version of religion that has been so divisive and destructive over the centuries.  But they are wrong when they jump to the conclusion that it is an either/or proposition and the absence of God in one’s life is preferable to the presence of God.  This brand of militant atheism leads to nihilism, existential despair, or totalitarianism that existed in places like the former Soviet Union and Cambodia.

 

This is where pantheism and Buddhism come in.  Although not the same, these two belief systems share many of the same aspects.  With them, it’s all about higher consciousness and coming to grips with one’s true nature. In pantheism, the concept of God is not of a supreme being, but a natural life force which we all share.  In Buddhism there is no God per se, but there is enlightenment and nirvana, or “highest happiness.”  Even as dark a soul as Nietzsche admired Buddhism, calling it “the only positivistic religion history has to show us.”

 

Moreover, both these belief systems are about the essence of religion without the ritual and dogma.  They’re the logical destination for humans who have rejected traditional religion but realize-- unlike atheists-- that spirituality and higher consciousness not only exist, but are just as real as our physical beings.  And the recognition of this reality is the starting point for self discovery and truth about oneself and the universe.  It is the path that will ultimately lead an individual and a society to harmony and peace and love.

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Muhammad Khurshid, a resident of Bajaur Agency, tribal areas situated on Pak-Afghan border is journalist by profession. He contributes articles and news stories to various online and print newspapers. His subject matter is terrorism. He is also heading Voice For Peace working against terrorism in tribal areas. The aim of the Voice For Peace is restoration of peace in Bajaur Agency, tribal areas and whole world.
Muhammad KhurshidMuhammad Khurshid, a resident of Bajaur Agency, tribal areas situated on Pak-Afghan border is journalist by profession. He contributes articles and news stories to various online and print newspapers. His subject matter is terrorism. He is also heading Voice For Peace working against terrorism in tribal areas. The aim of the Voice For Peace is restoration of peace in Bajaur Agency, tribal areas and whole world.

Middle way is the best

Dear John, You are absolutely that fundamentalists and atheists: both are misguided and dangerous. Fundamentalism is actually posing threat to the very existence of the world. The criminals and terrorists have been using the name of religion for achieving ulterior motives. As I belong to Bajaur Agency, tribal areas situated near Pak-Aghan border I can frankly tell you that there are some criminals who have been using the name of Islam for achieving their ulterior. Actually they have been fighting for money. This my belief that everyone in this world has the right to adopt whatever ideology he likes. But he has no right to impose that idea on some other by force.

We the people of tribal areas have been facing a strange situation. There groups. Everyone has been trying to tell the people to accept their ideologies as according to them, they are near to God. They have been doing all these for their vested interests. I am a Muslim, but I will never resort to crimes such as killing and desruction. As far as my little knowledge is concerned no religion in the world supports terrorism. But there are some proclaimed Islamists who have been committing crimes while using the name of Islam.

I consider that education is the best answer to all problems. He educated person will certainly have balanced view. He/they will never declared him/ them near to God. No one know who is near to God. Everyone has been trying to do some good work in the world.

Actually, professionalism in religion has given birth to terrorism. The half-educated mullahs (religious leaders) have been spoiling the mind of the people. They have brought the world to the verge of catastrophe. The United States wasting the resources on war should work out arrangements with Muslim rulers to provide education to the people on war footing. This is only way of discouraging fundamentalism and terrorism. There are some in Pakistan, who has been fighting along side the United States in war on terrorism, but still they have been creating terrorism. There should be logic in making the policies.

Keeping ground reality into consideration will be the best way for formulating policies. First of all we are human beings. We have the same bodies and hearts. We are brothers. And those who have creating hatredness in the world are the actual enemies of the humanity. Those who have committing the crimes should be brought to the courts without caring whether they are Muslims, Christians or Hindus. Religion must not be execuse for committing the crimes. We must stop this. Through unity we can do this.

by Muhammad Khurshid (298 articles, 31 quicklinks, 194 diaries, 158 comments) on Monday, June 4, 2007 at 5:25:25 AM
 


Muhammad Khurshid, a resident of Bajaur Agency, tribal areas situated on Pak-Afghan border is journalist by profession. He contributes articles and news stories to various online and print newspapers. His subject matter is terrorism. He is also heading Voice For Peace working against terrorism in tribal areas. The aim of the Voice For Peace is restoration of peace in Bajaur Agency, tribal areas and whole world.
Muhammad KhurshidMuhammad Khurshid, a resident of Bajaur Agency, tribal areas situated on Pak-Afghan border is journalist by profession. He contributes articles and news stories to various online and print newspapers. His subject matter is terrorism. He is also heading Voice For Peace working against terrorism in tribal areas. The aim of the Voice For Peace is restoration of peace in Bajaur Agency, tribal areas and whole world.

Middle way is the best

Dear John, You are absolutely right that fundamentalists and atheists: both are misguided and dangerous. Fundamentalism is actually posing threat to the very existence of the world. The criminals and terrorists have been using the name of religion for achieving ulterior motives. As I belong to Bajaur Agency, tribal areas situated near Pak-Aghan border I can frankly tell you that there are some criminals who have been using the name of Islam for achieving their ulterior. Actually they have been fighting for money. This my belief that everyone in this world has the right to adopt whatever ideology he likes. But he has no right to impose that idea on some other by force.

We the people of tribal areas have been facing a strange situation. There groups. Everyone has been trying to tell the people to accept their ideologies as according to them, they are near to God. They have been doing all these for their vested interests. I am a Muslim, but I will never resort to crimes such as killing and desruction. As far as my little knowledge is concerned no religion in the world supports terrorism. But there are some proclaimed Islamists who have been committing crimes while using the name of Islam.

I consider that education is the best answer to all problems. He educated person will certainly have balanced view. He/they will never declared him/ them near to God. No one know who is near to God. Everyone has been trying to do some good work in the world.

Actually, professionalism in religion has given birth to terrorism. The half-educated mullahs (religious leaders) have been spoiling the mind of the people. They have brought the world to the verge of catastrophe. The United States wasting the resources on war should work out arrangements with Muslim rulers to provide education to the people on war footing. This is only way of discouraging fundamentalism and terrorism. There are some in Pakistan, who has been fighting along side the United States in war on terrorism, but still they have been creating terrorism. There should be logic in making the policies.

Keeping ground reality into consideration will be the best way for formulating policies. First of all we are human beings. We have the same bodies and hearts. We are brothers. And those who have creating hatredness in the world are the actual enemies of the humanity. Those who have committing the crimes should be brought to the courts without caring whether they are Muslims, Christians or Hindus. Religion must not be execuse for committing the crimes. We must stop this. Through unity we can do this.

by Muhammad Khurshid (298 articles, 31 quicklinks, 194 diaries, 158 comments) on Monday, June 4, 2007 at 5:30:30 AM
 


I live in the heart of America, and am haunted by the saying:
"Evil succeeds because good men do nothing." by Edmund Burke.

Albert Einstein had another way of saying it:
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."

So I do what I can.

Edward Ulysses CateI live in the heart of America, and am haunted by the saying:
"Evil succeeds because good men do nothing." by Edmund Burke.

Albert Einstein had another way of saying it:
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."

So I do what I can.

Religious fundamentalists

It's interesting how all of this discussion sort of takes us back to the Great Spirit of the Native Americans, with the appreciation of both nature and human life. And yes, I'm NOT a Native American. But in searching for truth, like looking for gold, you have to throw away all that is not gold. It's your own journey, but I resent the natural way being destroyed by the first sociopath, Abraham. Just think for a moment, if Abraham was a sociopath, three major religions are off the track, and we're fighting over it, too. It like going East to Denver from Kansas City. The very first step is in the wrong direction! I resent the fact that in the same book where the Ten Commandments are listed, ten verses later people are instructed to "kill everything that breathes." It's not about faith, it's about GOLD. There are 429 references to GOLD in 380 verses. Everything else is mis-direction. Even the Wall Street Journal this weekend described the Holy City in Iran as being bigger than Vatican City. The big three are slugging it out for control of oil and gold. "When the heats on the chiefs, the indians get burned."

by Edward Ulysses Cate (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 221 comments) on Monday, June 4, 2007 at 3:55:33 PM
 


Carol V. Hamilton has a Ph.D. in English from Berkeley and teaches at the University of Pittsburgh. She also writes for History News Network (hnn.us) and CommonDreams.org.
Carol V. HamiltonCarol V. Hamilton has a Ph.D. in English from Berkeley and teaches at the University of Pittsburgh. She also writes for History News Network (hnn.us) and CommonDreams.org.

Rebuttal

I wonder if John Miglio has actually read Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins. There's certainly no indication in the article that he has, and if he has not, his condemnations are based on hearsay and guessing. In fact, atheists often belong to humanist groups, like the Center for Ethical Culture in NY and the American Humanist Association in D.C., and Miglio should read about these organizations before passing judgment. Members of these groups are trying to fight some frightening ignorance in American society, the kind of ignorance that has resulted in the recent "Creationist" museum that shows humans and dinosaurs co-existing. Miglio should not be prescribing to other people how they should feel or what they should believe by endorsing pantheism and Buddhism.  He should read Bertrand Russell, the philosopher Lucretius, Peter Gay's history of the Enlightenment, and Freud's essay "The Future of an Illusion." In short, he should do his homework and treat his opponents fairly.  

by Carol V. Hamilton (15 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 28 comments) on Monday, June 4, 2007 at 11:56:04 PM
 


John F. Miglio is the editor of the Online Review of Books & Current Affairs and author of Sunshine Assassins, a futuristic political thriller.
John F. MiglioJohn F. Miglio is the editor of the Online Review of Books & Current Affairs and author of Sunshine Assassins, a futuristic political thriller.

Misinterpretation of Essay

Carol,

You misinterpreted the main thrust of my essay.  1) I do not think atheists are bad people.  In my younger days, I went through a several-year period of agnosticism and atheism, and I know atheists can be humane and work for noble causes. 

2) I have read many books on the subjects of religion, atheism, existentialism, etc., over the decades, but, unlike you, I don't feel the need to be pedantic and name drop authors and titles to validate my erudition.  As you get older and wiser, I'm sure you'll learn this lesson.

3) I didn’t say atheists are dangerous; I said “militant atheists” are dangerous, you know, like Stalin and Pol Pot, who massacred millions of people to implement their own misguided and dangerous brand of Marxism, which itself was a distortion of Marxism.  In other words, religious fundamentalists and militant atheists are opposite sides of the same coin, and they ARE misguided and dangerous because they are both convinced they are right and everyone else is wrong.

So, tell me, Carol-- since you didn’t mention it in you censorious response to my essay-- are you a militant atheist or just the garden variety type?  Perhaps, if you’re interested, I can suggest some books on pantheism or Buddhism that can expand your knowledge on the subject-- and then you can name drop them in your next correspondence.  

by John F. Miglio (23 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 12 comments) on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 at 5:44:10 PM
 


John F. Miglio is the editor of the Online Review of Books & Current Affairs and author of Sunshine Assassins, a futuristic political thriller.
John F. MiglioJohn F. Miglio is the editor of the Online Review of Books & Current Affairs and author of Sunshine Assassins, a futuristic political thriller.

Misinterpretation of Essay

Carol,

You misinterpreted the main thrust of my essay.  1) I do not think atheists are bad people.  In my younger days, I went through a several-year period of agnosticism and atheism and I know atheists can be humane and work for noble causes.

 2) I have read many books on the subjects of religion, atheism, existentialism, etc., over the decades, but, unlike you, I don't feel the need to be pedantic and name drop authors and titles to validate my erudition.  As you get older and wiser, I'm sure you'll learn that lesson.

3) I didn't call atheists dangerous; I called "militant atheists" dangerous, you know like Stalin or Pol Pot, who slaughtered millions of people to promote their misguided and dangerous view of Marxism, which in itself was a distortion of Marxism.  Which is the point of my essay:  People who believe that their fundamentalist religious beliefs or their militant atheistic views are right and everyone else is wrong ARE misguided and dangerous.  They are opposite sides of the same coin.  They tend to imprison or torture or kill people who don't conform to their narrow set of beliefs.

So tell me, Carol-- since you didn't mention it-- are you an militant atheist, or just a garden variety atheist?  Perhaps you should do some reading on pantheism and Buddhism.  If you'd like, I could suggest a few titles.

by John F. Miglio (23 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 12 comments) on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 at 11:44:56 AM
 


I am an advocate for the work of an author who delivers an important message that the world needs, since we are pitted against each other and divided by those who seek and fight for worldly power, usually in the name of God.  He calls for a new reformation of religion, and government, and I believe he has the best ideas around. His pen name is Joseph J. Adamson, and his web site is http://realprophecyunveiled.netfirms.com
Guy DwyerI am an advocate for the work of an author who delivers an important message that the world needs, since we are pitted against each other and divided by those who seek and fight for worldly power, usually in the name of God.  He calls for a new reformation of religion, and government, and I believe he has the best ideas around. His pen name is Joseph J. Adamson, and his web site is http://realprophecyunveiled.netfirms.com

Regarding the Old Testament and Atheists

"EdUCate" has a good point. However, it is easy to misinterpret and misunderstand Judaic scriptures, and many Jews, Christians and Muslims do just that. They just don’t get the core message, but it’s there if you carefully consider it all in context.

Just for example, the writings of Solomon indicate that he learned from his father David’s mistakes, which is why he wrote that pride goes before destruction and an arrogant spirit before a fall, and it is better to be of a humble spirit than to join the proud and militant in their aggressive and offensive pursuit of the "spoils" of war. And, while there is much in the Old Testament that shows man’s tendencies toward egotism and judgmental self-righteousness, there is also much about peace, love, and real faith in God.

Also, Carol Hamilton is quite right in defending Atheists. The third largest population in the world is made up of Atheists and Agnostics, and there is good reason for that. After all, as Jesus foretold, there have been and still are many false prophets and hypocrites who have given religion a bad name, claiming they do "many wonderful works in the name of the Lord."

Again, I encourage you to read the works of my teacher.

http://realprophecyunveiled.netfirms.com 

He understands the message of eternal, universal truth that is at the core of all divinely inpired texts, even though most of them also contain the opinions and beliefs of the human beings who wrote them. 

 

by Guy Dwyer (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 30 comments) on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 at 5:37:43 PM
 

 

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