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October 7, 2007 at 12:31:01

The US was NEVER intended to be Christian. Herein is the Documented Truth.

by Ed Tubbs     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Let us silence this barking dog, once and for all. And I can conjure no finer day to script the eulogy for the mangy cur than on this Sunday.

 

I know you have heard the plaintiff paean, “America was intended as a Christian nation.” Everyone has heard it. It is impossible for anyone to avoid hearing it. And if it had the first wave of reflected truth from that which bounces off a single mote of dust . . .. Well, I don’t always enjoy receiving the “truth,” not any more than does a patient being informed of a cancer diagnosis. But I’ll take even that dreaded advisement than being left to wallow in a deliberate falsehood.

 

The problem, however concerning the clarion call to some Christian genesis, there’s no truth to it at all! NONE! In fact, on the grand jury legal principle of prima fascia that is employed in both criminal and tort cases under the various statutes of frauds, it is a deliberately concocted lie confected for propagandistic proselytizing and political power.

 

Whether one believes a given religious doctrine or another, a few features common to virtually all religions, including Christianity and, most certainly as it is being manifested today, the Moslem faiths, are those of coercive exclusion (frequently highly violent) of non-adherents via social and economic ostracization. Jesus of Nazareth himself is reported to have claimed he came to set father against son and brother against brother; hardly a welcome sign for all.

 

Religions have always set up factions that prove corrosive to a civil society; a recognized peril the framers of our experiment were so alarmed over they struggled to insure to the best of their ability not a single faction could look to the Constitution for support.

 

But to evidence unequivocal that the United States of America was never intended to provide even the first hint of adhesion to any religious orientation: In the latter years of the 1790s and early days and years of the 1800s, the North Africa states along what was known as the Barbary Coast — Tripoli, Tunis, Algiers, and Morocco — were rapaciously raking American shipping. Article 11 of the treaty that was unanimously ratified by the US Senate to end the interference with US shipping states: “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion (emphasis mine),-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/diplomacy/barbary/bar1796t.htm#art11)    

 

Additionally, Paragraph 2 of Article VI of the US Constitution states, “. . . all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land (emphasis mine). . .”  

 

Thus it is that every subsequent promulgation or other effort to rewrite and/or reconstrue American history, the Constitution, the treaties we have signed for any purpose whatsoever is by definition the perpetration of deliberate fraud.

 

I am beyond dumbfounded over how easily Americans, by their literal ignorance, pursued and by benign neglect, permit themselves to be swayed by all manner of Big Lie perturbations. C’mon: cut the crap! Stand up and call the lie what it is and the liar what he or she is: a damned liar! Or ignorant as hell! This wonderful, glorious “last best hope of mankind” country, by mortal design, belongs to each and every one of us, and not to any one of us exclusively.

 — Ed Tubbs

 

An "Old Army Vet" and liberal, qua liberal, with a passion for open inquiry in a neverending quest for truth unpoisoned by religious superstitions. Per Voltaire: "He who can lead you to believe an absurdity can lead you to commit an atrocity."

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Perhaps not then but sure is one now

Whether the US was founded as a Christian nation is not of great significance today. The reality is that the US has become a substantial Christian fundamentalist nation, where evengelical-radical Christian elements have grew to the point that it had converted the Republican Party to become a party driven by fundamentalist ideology. This radicalization is similar to some countries in the Middle East where fundamentalist Islam has taken hold. The difference is one of degree and consequences. Whereas no radical Islamic nation has militarily attacked the US, the US has attacked and occupied Iraq. Sure, there are all kinds of causes and reasons. But none justify the extreme measure of full-scale invasion, followed by regime removal, systematic distruction of infrastructure, occupation and colonization. What has caused the Bush administration to take this most extreme of act in such a great hurry? Was he worried Saddam was going to attack the US like Pearl Harbor? The cause is not national security but a religious fundamentalist political ideology. 

 

by TomK (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 207 comments) on Sunday, October 7, 2007 at 8:38:30 PM
 



DrColes

Church & State In America

The separation of church and state in America means the state cannot sponsor, mandate, or support any religion.  America was founded on Judeo-Christian principals and the laws of the nation and states are based on the Ten Commandments. The government in America is the citizens; it’s not a separate entity from the people. The government must remain secular, as all religions are a dogma. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl

by DrColes (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Monday, October 8, 2007 at 1:47:53 PM
 


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TyI'm a 29 year old male. 

Separation of Church and State

America has never had a separation of church and state. We only have freedom of religion and the government is prohibited from supporting or sponsoring a religion but that is not a separation. A separation of church and state would mean that religious organizations and institutions would be banned from participation in the political process.

 

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 703 comments) on Monday, October 8, 2007 at 5:55:21 PM
 



DrColes

Separation of Church (Religion) and State

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

by DrColes (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Monday, October 8, 2007 at 6:08:24 PM
 


I'm a 29 year old male. 
TyI'm a 29 year old male. 

Separation of Church and State

America has never had a separation of church and state. We only have freedom of religion and the government is prohibited from supporting or sponsoring a religion but that is not a separation. A separation of church and state would mean that religious organizations and institutions would be banned from participation in the political process.

 

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 703 comments) on Monday, October 8, 2007 at 5:55:44 PM
 

 

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