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It's Time to Impeach Cheney

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By Congressman Dennis Kucinich, special to www.ImpeachCheney.org

As a member of Congress, I have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution and the laws of our nation, and I have pledged to represent the views of my constituents and of all Americans.

That’s why I feel both duty and sorrow in pursuing the path of impeachment against Vice President Richard B. Cheney.

While the impeachment movement has generated intensely strong sentiment and activism, there have been only two polls published on the question of impeaching Vice President Cheney.  In a national poll, 54 percent of Americans favored impeachment. In one state poll, 64 percent of Vermonters favored impeaching the Vice President.


Twenty-one of my colleagues have heeded the public demand and signed on as cosponsors of my resolution, H Res 333.  Others in the Congress have claimed they have more important priorities, but have told their constituents they will keep their views in mind if the matter ever comes up for a vote.
 
Well, the issue is coming up for a vote this week on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives, and the “distraction” will require members to balance their priorities between Constitutionally proscribed justice and recourse and the alternative: Constitutional abuse and
dictatorial power.

Only by taking up impeachment can we reinstitute a balance of powers and slow down the rush to launch a new war of aggression against Iran.

I am urging my colleagues to recognize that impeachment will not create a crisis by briefly disrupting their schedules on Capitol Hill.  The crisis, as Americans outside the Beltway know, is upon us.  Congress, the first branch of our government, to which the first half of the Constitution is devoted, has been reduced to almost a bystander as the policies of the wealthiest nation and the largest military ever known are set in secret by the Vice President's office.  Under Bush/Cheney, we have become a nation that illegally threatens and launches aggressive wars for political – not national security -- reasons.  For this crisis of confidence, this denial of our Constitutional beliefs and rights, impeachment is the only cure available.

I urge you, my fellow citizens, to share your sentiments with your Members of Congress and with your family, friends, and the news media in support regarding the rule of law and the imperative of impeaching a vice president who has misled both the public and the Congress about the gravest matters possible: war and peace.  Please join with organizations like www.ImpeachCheney.org in making your voices heard as soon as possible!  Every individual Member of Congress will have to decide within days where they stand.

On Tuesday, when I introduce my privileged resolution to force this issue to a vote, some other member of Congress will almost certainly move to table (kill) it.  A Yes vote to table is a vote to delay the enforcement of the rule of law aside.  A No vote to table is a vote to give impeachment a chance for a full and fair hearing. Please help me get this message out.

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Cheney has a spot reserved for him in hell

for those not aware, the TV show Supernatural, which i saw last night on Australian TV,  had a bit on Dick Cheney:
Casey: "Dick Cheney."

Dean: "He one of yours?"

Casey: "Not yet. Let’s just say he’s got a parking spot reserved for him downstairs."'
NOTE: Casey is a female demon...
http://www.syfyportal.com/news424357.html

by brian (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 148 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 6:13:33 PM

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Reply: 2008 Presidential Election Weekly Poll

http://www.votenic.com

Results Posted Tuesday Evening 

by Peter S. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 9:37:02 PM

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Whoopee ...

... and it will be ignored or filibustered and this world will continue to spin out of control.

 

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 8:47:37 PM

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Reply: Aint that the truth

Com-n-sens 

Aint that the truth brother.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 531 comments) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 11:48:44 PM

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Please contact YOUR congressional representatives on THIS

"I urge you, my fellow citizens, to share your sentiments with your Members of Congress and with your family, friends, and the news media in support regarding the rule of law and the imperative of impeaching a vice president who has misled both the public and the Congress about the gravest matters possible: war and peace."

Citizens of the United States of America this is use it or lose it time. If you do not know what your own representatives thinks on this matter then in my opinion you are asleep at your post in a time of national and international crisis and you do not deserve the freedoms you are about to lose not just for yourselves but for your successors.

Also you will have earned your share of the contempt that the rest of the world rightfully feels for your country which claims to be pro rule of law and yet patently is not. And next 9-11 don't ask why just look in the mirror.

Democracies do get the governments that they deserve.

Whether the citizens of the United States of America deserve better than Dick Cheney is an open question, but we who have treaties with you deserve better than Dick Cheney (and President Bush) from you. You owe it us in the rest of the world to ensure that your elected representatives keep their oaths and uphold the law.  Your laws and our shared laws in our treaties. 

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 1308 comments) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 9:27:01 PM

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Reply: Brett,

You constantly speak as if none of us here in the US have done a damn thing when it comes to taking action against the current administration and their policies...  Apparently WE can do no right in your opinion -as your constant criticism damns us if we do and likewise damns us if we don't.  We are all lumped together in a simplistic handbasket to hell everytime you see fit to sling crap at WE who are doing whatever we can to make a difference.  You are obviously intelligent but you're wasting your time preaching to the choir in rather condescending and angry tones!  Your purpose might be better served by attacking any right-wing site instead...

Most of us DO share your common goal!

-Chris

by C.Bid (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 739 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 9:44:23 AM

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Reply: Its a numbers thing

Your system puts the power to impeach in the hands of the people if they want it enough.  But enough of you do have to want it not just a little bit but enough. The test of a democracy is an objective one.

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 1308 comments) on Wednesday, Nov 7, 2007 at 2:51:49 AM

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Reply: Obviously,

our Representatives DO NOT listen to the WILL of the people -considering the outcome of yesterday's motions!

That's becoming clearer and clearer each day...  There is a collective feeling of powerlessness now reigning over the majority of us Americans these days...  and our Media doesn't help.

I am losing hope every minute and wishing I had the means to be elsewhere.

by C.Bid (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 739 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 7, 2007 at 11:47:05 AM

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Oh, you want me to share my feelings, Dennis?

Fine. I can do that. But my feelings might not be what you're hoping for.

by Scott (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 744 comments [30 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 9:46:26 PM

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Re: It's Time to Impeach Cheney

I began reading some of Dennis Kucinich’s resolution H.R.333 and I noticed this name in bold.

‘‘We know they have biological and chemical weapons.’’ March 17, 2002, Press Conference by Vice President Dick Cheney and His Highness Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa, Crown Prince of Bahrain at Shaikh Hamad Palace.

Then on Saturday I read this: Read the name in bold. 

Bahrain's Crown Prince, Sheik Salman bin Isa al-Khalifa, said Friday that Iran is striving to acquire nuclear weaponry, Israel Radio reported.
Do you see the pattern here ? 

by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 10:18:15 PM

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Reply: YES, Bahrain's statements worry us here in Kuwait

Here in Kuwait, everyone is preparing mentally for a 50% likely attack on Iraq in the next year by the USA or Israel or allies.

What you said is true.  Bahrain has more to worry about than anyone else--as it has more than 50% shias among its population and Iran has claimed it as its own territory on a number of occasions.

In short, the leadership will say anything to make Iran look bad--and Irani leadership makes it so much easier.

The Drumming is in the air in the Gulf States today--as most never thought the U.S. would do what it did in Iraq.  So, its an even bet that follow through in 2008-- a la WHEN WRONG IS RIGHT (movie)...AGAIN

by ALONE (196 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 557 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 10:55:23 PM

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Dick Cheney?

This isn't the same Dick Cheney that told a top Democrat on the Senate floor to "go f*ck yourself?" Is it?

by Dusty Nathan (18 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 69 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 10:24:38 PM

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Reply: of course

But of course it is. He is such a gentleman! I would say it is long past time to impeach Cheney and the so-called President.

by paz love (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 71 comments) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 10:30:06 PM

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Re: It's Time to Impeach Cheney

I found this on the Common Dreams message board.

MAKE FOUR CALLS TO THE CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD, AND TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO DO THE SAME

Please call the Capitol switchboard at 800-862-5530 or 800-828-0498 and ask to speak to your Rep. Tell him/her to SUPPORT Kucinich’s resolution (H.R.333). At the very least, don’t let the House “table” this motion!

Then call again and tell Kucinich’s office you support what he’s doing.

Call twice more - (to the 800 number above) once to John Conyers and once to Nancy Pelosi, and ask them to let the resolution come to vote, so at least every member will be on record about impeaching Cheney.

by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 10:39:21 PM

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Reply: Better than calling send an email or a fax

And ask for an acknowledgement of receipt from your congressional representative.

Explain to your congressional representative that after their vote comes down that you want to be able to show the world that on this issue you were not idle. That you ensured that they, your representative, got your message. 

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 1308 comments) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 11:14:34 PM

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I mpeach Dick Cheney

I just read on truth-out were Mr. Dich head is about to give all companies that mfg. nuclear plants the right to go ahead and do so without approval. this means that all nuclear processing and mfg. of nuclear plants can make billions of dollars without passing any laws. old dick head will make a fortune in kick backs. these tyrants in the white house really have gone to far. THEY ALL SHOULD BE IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY.

by vincent passiatore (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 185 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 10:48:24 PM

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I think Congress could get this done next week!

If even 33% of congressmen and senators would get together and stop all procedures on the floor for a week by calling in every delaying tactic in the book, the IMPEACHMENT OF DICK CHENEY, could begin.

 

IN short, NO NEW FUNDING FOR WAR until IMPEACHMENT IS STARTED.

by ALONE (196 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 557 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 10:48:40 PM

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Reply: Pipe dream?

Have you considered the fallout beyond the the Congress of such a stance?

It wouldn't appear so.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 531 comments) on Monday, Nov 5, 2007 at 11:57:40 PM

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Reply: Fallout, like the dust from depleted uranium munitions

The fallout from impeachment would be a return to Constitutional order with the legislative branch and the executive branch sharing power as co-equal branches of government. 

The Office of the Vice President has not respected the rule of Constitutional law by pushing the limits of power during an endless war, manufactured under false pretenses.  Presidential power has been pushed beyond the power of kings and Congress is forced to waste time investigating the dozens of scandals and abuses of power instead of creating better law.

Yeah, have you thought of the fallout and the blowback that will result from the United States fighting a nominal poorly justified, illegal war of aggression that furthers the American Corporate Oil Empire and alienates the rest of the world?

How about the fallout and blowback the Vice President's office is causing by endangering our troops with the suspension of the Geneva Conventions, endorsing harsh prisoner treatment tantamount to torture, and indefinite detention without trial.

How about the literal fallout caused by the use of depleted uranium munitions?  Depleted uranium is nuclear waste that explodes into micron-sized dust particles on impact.  The Office of the Vice Presidency is directly responsible for spreading hundreds of tons of DU laden munitions to the Middle East for an illegal, unjustified war.  I could almost forgive them for starting and waging a war to further empire, but a war waged with dirty bombs that will contaminate the region with radioactive cancer causing dust particles that will kill and maim indiscriminately for millions of years-  THAT is a barbaric ATROCITY. 

Yeah, let us consider the fallout of returning the so-called Commander in Chief, almighty Unitary Executive back to the ordinary and human Office of the Presidency by rebuking the abusers of power at the center of so many high crimes and misdemeanors.

by Tim Riley (7 articles, 5 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 148 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 2:30:55 AM

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, Bush, prosecute Rumsfeld and the rest of the sorry lot.

Cheney was born ready to be impeached. I’m sure George Snr and his wife often in the privacy of their bedroom wonder what they did wrong.

That aside reality dictates that with control of both houses of Congress and lots of help from the Clintons and 'muddied waters'  the Republicans couldn’t oust him what make anyone think that with less control the Dems will be able to get rid of Cheney?  They simply won’t unless they get overwhelming support from the people which they’re unlikely to get.

So why is Dennis Kucinich suggesting it? Desperation politics 101.

He needs profile so he suggests part of a wish list from the Dems rump getting rid of the Grumpy old rude, puppet master Cheney the best target for action. One could observe that dumb without dumber would still be ...well you get the point .

 Even if it doesn’t happen he can say “at least I tried”.  Apparently he believes that this differenciation alone will give him a bounce in the polls and the standings. If it works he’s on odds on for the nomination and probably President. That’s the theory anyway.

I predict unless he has another ‘rabbit’ he’ll be out of the race before the end of the primaries.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 531 comments) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 12:54:03 AM

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Reply: Your diagnois would be true but...

He has been campaigning while using so-called "Desperation Politics" since the summer.

by Kevin Gosztola (302 articles, 146 quicklinks, 81 diaries, 1082 comments [77 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 7:22:48 AM

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GO F*CK YOURSELF MR. CHENEY!

GO F*CK YOURSELF....

GO F*CK YOURSELF AZZHOLE!

by Ben Marble, M.D. (23 articles, 0 quicklinks, 230 diaries, 349 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 8:30:17 AM

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Rather than offering two cents here...

why not pick up the phone and be heard where it just might matter?

by Daniel Geery (26 articles, 95 quicklinks, 126 diaries, 912 comments [27 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 8:45:46 AM

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Reply: bc The Duopoly doesn't really care what we think!

i.e. our country is SCREWED!

by Ben Marble, M.D. (23 articles, 0 quicklinks, 230 diaries, 349 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 9:01:12 AM

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Impeachment is coming!

I feel it in my tired old bones. They react differently to rain and sunshine, but I have a deep conviction that impeachment will prevail as soon as "the common man" and woman get a little more information on this.

What I know is that people are the ones who initiate a correction to dreadful actions committed by politicians. Since July when Moyers hosted two well-respected spokesmen for impeachment, it is fashionable for the more literate among us to spew nanobytes of discussion on the subject.

What I also know is that Congress, despite dedicated House members who stick their necks out, does not initiate more than a possible vehicle for impeachment. Much as Dennis Kucinich and his faithful followers have helped the cause, he will not be able to move the cause forward without popular media coverage. It's getting different here in little old East Tennessee where Republicans are the majority and have been since the Civil War. So to needle Jimmy Duncan is not the way to go. He has pleased me during the Iraq War votes, never having voted for it or its surge.

But what makes my bones tingle is medical. That is when I go to my various doctors, looking a little tired from long hours at the keyboard, I lay it on to them that I blog for impeachment. Two have declared their willingness to read Genius of Impeachment. And this afternoon the ophthalmologist and I will have a short chat. My eyes look like I've been on a drunk, but I'll tell him how many hours I have spent telling others to wise up. The podiatrist was the most interested in learning more about how we could proceed. We ended up agreeing that it's time for doctors to be able to be doctors.

Good luck, Congressman!

by Margaret Bassett (45 articles, 2909 quicklinks, 42 diaries, 1851 comments [99 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 10:59:35 AM

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made my calls

impeach the piece of sh*t. He's so evil, his own heart has tried to commit suicide 4 times, just to get away from him.


Thanks, Rep Kucinich- and please get on with the 9/11 inquiry-  Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert has already made the criminal case

by Better World Order (4 articles, 568 quicklinks, 39 diaries, 1111 comments [56 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 12:16:39 PM

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Constitutional abuse and

WOW, Kevin G is right in calling this desparation politics...  I would only add "at its worst"  Impeach cheney?  whatever good would that do?  Given the make up of the house and senate, it won't get filibustered...  rather, it will die in committee without ever seeing the light of day...  

NOBODY wants to impeach cheney, or bush...  Why?  because all of their hands are out and they are so dirty....  Remember what happened to the republicans when they went after clinton?  same thing will happen if they go after cheney, or bush...  

we will see the apporval polls will be UP for bush and cheney, and probably down in the single digits (since they are almost already there) Dennis knows this, and he also knows that nobody will do anything, so he is going to dangle it out there like he is some great messenger...

 

PLEASE...  Dennis, you are a politician to your core, and you don't give a D... about this nation, unless you can cut a ribbon making yourself look good..  Spare us the platitudes..

 

Ciao, CZ 

by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 829 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 1:26:15 PM

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Reply: I disagree

Dennis DOES give a damn and he, at least, has the cajones to get the issue heard... who's efforts have amounted to anything surpassing his?  What else can be done?  Seeing as he has my full backing in his presidential bid, I and many many others support him in this...  why shouldn't we?  Isn't this better than nothing?  I don't see it as 'desparation politicking' -that's a talking point of the right!  Timing isn't everything...  though some would like us to think that.  So when would be the right time to do this, after the election?  C'mon... 

by C.Bid (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 739 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 4:37:20 PM

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Reply: I am not saying it is not a worthwile cause...

I am just saying that Kucinich's motives are, at the very least, questionable Remember, he is part of the CONgress...    The congress that has done everything that corporate america wanted them to do... which is to say everything that the bush administration wanted....

All I am saying is that it is easy to make gestures when you are in the basement, and your gestures will never reach the light of day...  In fact, separating himself from the rest of the CONgress can only help his aspirations..  

HOWEVER, when the DNC decides that he is big enough to cause trouble, it will squash him like a bug, and that will be that...   

Ciao, CZ 

by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 829 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 7, 2007 at 8:25:41 AM

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Reply: Filibustered?

No, not quite.  The House of Representatives could impeach the Vice President (or the President) with a simple majority, meaning that they'd not need a single Republican vote.

But to actually remove the impeached office holder requires a 2/3 supermajority in the Senate, 67 votes.  There are only 51 Democrats, which means you'd need at least 16 epublicans to go along with removal.  If the Republicans had the 41 votes to sustain a filibuster, then they'd have more than enough votes (34) to defeat the removal vote, so they'd go ahead with the vote. 

 

by Dana Pico (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 193 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 6:41:38 PM

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lol....

looks like they will have to have an hour debate on the issue...GO DENNIS GO...IMPEACH THAT f*cking TRAITOR!

by Ben Marble, M.D. (23 articles, 0 quicklinks, 230 diaries, 349 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 2:58:26 PM

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SO, TODAY IN THE HOUSE, DEMS FOLDED

Kucinich got his motion up there and, like the dog who finally caught a rabbit and didn't know what to do, Republicans joined them to bring the measure to the floor for debate . . .

. . . upon which, Steyer (the Dem Whip) tabled it.

So much for impeaching anyone. What a great Democratic day in the Congress--impeachment 'off the table' again and Mukasey sent to the full Senate with flying colors.

Does anyone think it really matters what the hell happens in 2008?

by Jim Freeman (108 articles, 53 quicklinks, 227 diaries, 386 comments) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 6:30:15 PM

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Response on my site:

Once again, George Bush has outsmarted our friends on the left 

Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), one of the fine gentlemen running for the Democratic presidential nomination, wrote:

    It’s Time to Impeach Cheney
    By Congressman Dennis Kucinich, special to www.ImpeachCheney.org

     

    As a member of Congress, I have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution and the laws of our nation, and I have pledged to represent the views of my constituents and of all Americans.

    That’s why I feel both duty and sorrow in pursuing the path of impeachment against Vice President Richard B. Cheney.

At least one of us doubts that Mr Kucinich feels any sorrow about this, other than being sorry that he’ll never get it through!

    While the impeachment movement has generated intensely strong sentiment and activism, there have been only two polls published on the question of impeaching Vice President Cheney. In a national poll, 54 percent of Americans favored impeachment. In one state poll, 64 percent of Vermonters favored impeaching the Vice President.

Oddly enough, the last time I read the Constitution, it said that impeachment was to try and remove federal officeholders for “high crimes and misdemeanors,” but Mr Kucinich is basing his arguments on unpopularity; is it a “high crime” to be unpopular?

Well, I suppose it could be: when he was Minority Leader, Gerald Ford said that an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives says it is.

    Only by taking up impeachment can we reinstitute a balance of powers and slow down the rush to launch a new war of aggression against Iran.

     

    I am urging my colleagues to recognize that impeachment will not create a crisis by briefly disrupting their schedules on Capitol Hill. The crisis, as Americans outside the Beltway know, is upon us. Congress, the first branch of our government, to which the first half of the Constitution is devoted, has been reduced to almost a bystander as the policies of the wealthiest nation and the largest military ever known are set in secret by the Vice President’s office. Under Bush/Cheney, we have become a nation that illegally threatens and launches aggressive wars for political – not national security — reasons. For this crisis of confidence, this denial of our Constitutional beliefs and rights, impeachment is the only cure available.

The Congress has all of the power it needs to prevent an attack on Iran: simply don’t authorize it and don’t fund it! While Mr Kucinich opposed and opposes the war in Iraq, it is quite clear that we are in Iraq because the Congress was asked for the authorization to use military force and was asked for the funds to prosecute the war; not only did the Congress pass the authorization, but it has passed the funding requests — and done so several times.

So, if Mr Kucinich’s primary concern is really what he stated, impeachment is not the only “cure” available; if the Congress does not approve of a military strike against Iran, it has all of the power it needs to prevent it. For Mr Kucinich to blame Vice President Cheney without taking a good look at the Congress in which he serves is foolish.

Of course, the Vice President of the United States actually has very few powers, save what authority is delegated to him by the President. Dick Cheney might not be the most popular guy around, might not be all warm and cuddly, but the executive power of the United States is vested in the President, not the Vice President. George Bush might think that Mr Cheney is the smartest man in the world, and follow every bit of advice that the Vice President gives him, but what is done is still done under the President’s authority. The House could impeach Mr Cheney, and the Senate could remove him from office, and if President Bush still wanted to listen to and follow Mr Cheney’s advice, he could, and there’s not one damned thing the Congress could do about it.¹

You know, this is such a great misunderstanding of federal and political responsibility, such an idiotic attempt by the Democrats that you have to wonder if Karl Rove didn’t somehow implant chips in their skulls and send the message, “Blame Cheney, blame Cheney, blame Cheney.” The Vice President is responsible only for having given advice; the President is the one responsible for having taken it or rejected it, and the President is the one responsible for the actions of the executive branch of government.

Maybe part of it is the fact that the Democrats don’t really want to remove President Bush from office, because such would mean that Richard Cheney would become president. But I think a larger part of it comes from their misbegotten propaganda from the 2000 election campaign, where they tried to sell the ridiculous notion that George Bush, a Harvard MBA and a successful two-term governor of a very large state, was an idiot — even though he had better grades in college than Al Gore. Such never sold to a lot of Americans, because it was patently absurd. Yet it seems to me that a lot of our friends on the left not only swallowed their own propaganda, but still believe it, in their hearts and in their souls, even today. Because of that, because in their minds President Bush is such a moron, they’ve managed to transfer whatever responsibility they thought should have accrued to his administration, transferred it to Dick Cheney, transferred it to “Bush’s brain,” Karl Rove, transferred it to Donald Rumsfeld and Alberto Gonzalez and John Ashcroft and Michael Brown.

And in all of that, they have practically absolved President Bush from any responsibility for anything — and Mr Kucinich demonstrates that here, fully, as he wants to attack the administration by impeaching the vice-president. The guy they think is so stupid has outsmarted all of them, once again.

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¹ - The Congress could state that Mr Cheney could hold no federal office, and thus he couldn’t be paid for his advice, but they could not prevent him from giving it or the president from listening to it.

by Dana Pico (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 193 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 6:32:42 PM

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Reply: Uh, NO...

You are truly delusional.

by C.Bid (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 739 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Nov 6, 2007 at 7:39:37 PM

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Impeach Cheney NOW!

They have higher priorities then keeping us out of an illegal and unnecessary thermonuclear war with Iran?  They must have a federal building that needs naming.  What else can be more critical than that?  Perhaps other than pork hunting. Since more people (and even politicians) both foreign and domestic have stated Bush's behavior is somewhat less than stable, I and many others recommend an involuntary 25th amendment hearing for him to determine his psychological state.  He sees ghosts coming out of the white house walls, so there must be more than a few screws lose, and that's just one example of his instability.  That is not someone I want with their finger on the button.  

 

I've sent in the impeachment memorials for both Bush & Cheney, attended rallies, signed petitions and sent letters to the editor and members of congress, both mine and any of those I believed may have had a functioning brain cell and a reason to believe this country was being forced into the wrong direction and I'm probably on the FBI's s**t list and couldn't cross the Canadian border to visit my cousins.  Cesspool la'vie, it's a small price to pay, we aren't that close.  Now it's up to Congress.  Strike first, strike hard, strike fast!  Declaw & defang Cheney first, then dump the Clown Prince George into a rubber room!

 

"This is no longer the country I defended!" and "I want my old country back!" are phrases I've seen in too many places from too many Veterans.  It's time to awaken the American sheeple!  For those who claim this all pie in the sky, this is hope and without hope, all is lost.  Besides, without Hope, there would not have been Crosby.

 

Anchors aweigh,

Dave Kisor

Veteran, USN / USNR

by Dave Kisor (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 311 comments [40 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 10:35:37 AM

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