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April 19, 2008 at 15:36:08

Headlined on 4/19/08:
The 2008 Election Will Be Stolen

by David Swanson     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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A new collection of essays edited by Mark Crispin Miller called "Loser Take All: Election Fraud and the Subversion of Democracy, 2000 - 2008," tells the story better than any single source I've seen yet.

The Supreme Court stopped a recount in Florida in 2000 that would have made Al Gore president.  This is not speculation.  The recount was later done.  



Numerous elections were stolen in 2002, in Colorado, New Hampshire, Minnesota, and elsewhere, including Senate, Governor, and House races in Georgia that were practically openly swiped by Diebold's elections unit president flying in at the last minute and altering the election machines.  The theft of Don Siegelman's 2002 election as governor of Alabama was almost as transparent.  One county reported a set of results from electronic machines that made Siegelman governor, then recalculated and reported a different set of results.  The new results were statistically impossible, and the pair of reports strongly suggested exactly how the machines were rigged, first mistakenly and later as intended.

John Kerry and John Edwards won the presidential election in 2004.  The evidence of specific fraud in Ohio and elsewhere is overwhelming, but so is the evidence of the exit polls.  The unadjusted exit polls show Kerry and Edwards winning.  When the results are "adjusted" to conform to the official results, we are asked to believe that Bush and Cheney increased their big city voters from 2.3 million in 2000 to 5.4 million in 2004, a 153 percent increase.  While support for Cheney-Bush dropped off in rural areas, small towns, medium sized cities, etc., it skyrocketed in the Democratic strongholds of big cities.  Let me be clear: that's the official story of what happened, not the wild conspiracy theory of ordinary people who allow themselves to be influenced by facts, logic, or memory of actual events.

Election fraud was not limited to Ohio or to the presidential race in 2004, but was widespread and systematic.  This was also true in 2006.  In many cases, Democratic turnout overwhelmed Republican fraud in 2006, and the Democrats picked up 30 new seats.  But those victories were by larger margins than people believe.  In other races, Republican fraud won out, and was immediately hushed up.  Read the evidence in "Loser Take All," and then think about how the current Congress would have been different with 40 or 50 new Democrats rather than 30.  The 2006 elections saw the most widespread and sophisticated election fraud our country has yet seen, combined with the greatest public confidence since 2000 that elections were honest and verifiable.  That combination does not bode well for 2008.

The views of Senator John McCain are so far from those of most Americans, that Miller rightly refers to the Republicans as a fringe party.  But that fringe party is perfecting election theft.  The only way to prevent John McCain from being the next president would be to hand him such a whopping defeat that he could not plausibly claim to have honestly won.  Sadly, Senator Obama (the Democratic nominee, barring an antidemocratic coup by super delegates) appears intent on avoiding a landslide at all costs and aiming, rather, for a tight victory of 1 or 2 percent.  (And Senator Clinton appears intent on losing the election should she be miraculously nominated.)

Obama is sitting on a number of keys to a landslide if he would only pull them out of his pocket and use them.  Thus far it appears he will not.  The 20 percent of Americans who support the occupation of Iraq are not potential Obama voters.  There is nothing to be gained by appealing to them.  But when I talk to people in the peace movement, they are increasingly telling me they plan to stay home or vote for a third party candidate such as Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney.  None of them are potential McCain voters.  They are, in fact, what Senator Hillary Clinton disdainfully refers to as "the activist base of the Democratic Party."  According to Clinton, these people:

"turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of [my] positions, and it's primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them."

Well, guess what, we don't agree with Obama either.  We appreciate the credit Clinton gives us for her defeat.  For his own good, Obama needs to understand that he's next, that those of us who actively represent the 80 percent of the nation opposed to the occupation will direct our activism at him until he agrees to a speedy and complete withdrawal from Iraq.  And we will mobilize millions to guarantee a landslide if Obama stands up this week and leads a filibuster of the next $170 billion for the occupation.  If he continues to claim that he opposes the occupation while funding it with our grandchildren's borrowed treasure, his criticism of McCain will fall flat.  If he continues to speak of reducing the U.S. presence in Iraq to "non-combat troops" while soldiers get their heads blown off deep within the Green Zone, he will lose all credibility.  A "non-combat troop" in Iraq is another name for John McCain's fantasy that the Iraqis will someday stop resisting.  If Obama votes No on the $170 billion without actively lobbying his colleagues to vote No, he will not be seen as sincere.

Obama was asked last week in Philadelphia about impeachment, indictment, and accountability for Bush and Cheney.  He suggested that he MIGHT investigate their crimes AFTER we elect him president, and that he MIGHT prosecute them "if" they were found to have committed crimes.  "If"?  "If"?  That word may become as famous as Dick Cheney's "So?"  At every stop Obama makes on this endless campaign, people should hand him copies of John Conyers' "The Constitution in Crisis," a book you can buy in most bookstores which documents a long list of criminal offenses committed by Bush and Cheney.  Does Obama disagree with the book's conclusions?  Does he have a response to Bush's public confession to violating the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act?  Does he question the two Government Accountability Office studies that have found that in a significant percentage of cases, when Bush has announced his right to violate laws through signing statements, he has proceeded to violate those laws?  Does Obama now believe the invasion of Iraq and everything that came with it was possibly legal?  Was the February 7, 2002, order from Bush allowing the torture of detainees a legal act?  "If?"  "If?"

(You can find Conyers' whole book for free here: click here Just click on "Summary," print out that short section, and send it to Obama.)

If Obama were to quietly allow impeachment hearings on Cheney or Bush to proceed on such subjects as torture and signing statements, he could put McCain on the defensive and force him to defend each crime while promising not to commit it.  Impeachment hearings could squeeze out all coverage of nonsense spats and scandals.  And if the American public understood that voting for Obama would put Bush and Cheney behind bars, we would see a landslide that could not be denied.  

Sadly, it looks like we're going to see a tight race.  During this tight race, good citizens will avoid all other political activism and devote their energies to the race.  And not just their energies.  We will transfer enough wealth to build a real populist movement for justice or a legitimate source of news into the hands of corporate television networks in the form of campaign ads.  And, as a reward for our efforts, the election will be stolen.

Unless we interrupt this script and make some changes.

 

http://www.davidswanson.org

DAVID SWANSON is a co-founder of After Downing Street, a writer and activist, and the Washington Director of Democrats.com. He is a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, and serves on the Executive Council of the Washington-Baltimore Newspaper Guild, TNG-CWA. He has worked as a newspaper reporter and as a communications director, with jobs including Press Secretary for Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign, Media Coordinator for the International Labor Communications Association, and three years as Communications Coordinator for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Swanson obtained a Master's degree in philosophy from the University of Virginia in 1997.

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Wolfie

keep your eyes on the fries

we know that houdini was a trickster, but it was entertainment.

now we will see another election purloined, and we will mutter "how'd they do it?".

machines can do it better than imperfect boobs like us. the election bureau heads know more than us mutts. why rock the sinking boat!

four more years!!

 

wolfie casts his vote away at insanity for humanity.

 

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 19 diaries, 1084 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 1:51:32 AM
 


I have an Associate Degree in computer programming and a BS in Business. Any contributions I submit to the public are mostly with the intent to promote fair elections that will return confidence to those who feel their votes have not counted or others who have been disenfranchised from voting.
Dave DavisI have an Associate Degree in computer programming and a BS in Business. Any contributions I submit to the public are mostly with the intent to promote fair elections that will return confidence to those who feel their votes have not counted or others who have been disenfranchised from voting.

Be prepared to vote. Qualify early

This is right on! We can stop a potential train wreck in November. But unless we can see that Election Fraud is more a reality with the new DRE (Electronic Voting Machines) - even worse than hanging chads, and make a concerted effort to stop it - we are doomed as a democracy. Proper registration will be a prime factor in deciding if you can vote in upcoming elections and especially in November. You could be "bumped" from voting if not properly registered. Registration rules can change sometime overnight, - just ask the Ohio voters about the antics of SOS J. Kenneth Blackwell (R) who was finally voted out and replaced by Jennifer Brunner (D). Along with your right to vote is the right to know you are properly registered. Waiting until Election day is too late to check or make corrections.

by Dave Davis (0 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 8 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 1:55:09 AM
 


I'm a freelance writer, a former reporter, the mother of four amazingly compassionate and intelligent human beings but otherwise poor as the proverbial church mouse. I write about the important stuff: environment, corporate fraud, government negligence and corruption - you name it (if it makes you mad, I've probably covered it). I just finished a book on environmental initiatives for homeowners, Greening Your Home, and write for several online sites.
I'm considered an environmentalist...

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Jeanne RobertsI'm a freelance writer, a former reporter, the mother of four amazingly compassionate and intelligent human beings but otherwise poor as the proverbial church mouse. I write about the important stuff: environment, corporate fraud, government negligence and corruption - you name it (if it makes you mad, I've probably covered it). I just finished a book on environmental initiatives for homeowners, Greening Your Home, and write for several online sites.
I'm considered an environmentalist...

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Yes, and UT will make it happen

United Technologies, whose stock is UP in this appalling economy, recently attempted a hostile takeover of Diebold, makers of the infamous voting machines (see: http://thepanelist.com/Opinions/Opinions/_20080328878/). Once they succeed, their ties to the military/industrial comment will make the 2008 election a done deal, and Clinton is merely helping move the process forward by dividing the Democratic party with her carping and lies. 

by Jeanne Roberts (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 21 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 9:39:14 AM
 


Retired on Social Insecurity. Long time grunt in the war on poverty, racism and war itself.
James CordrayRetired on Social Insecurity. Long time grunt in the war on poverty, racism and war itself.

Sure, And Elvis is alive and there are Black Helicopters too

We lost the elections because of folks like you, self-styled progressives that demand 200% agreement or else. Your strategy is stupid, your tactics even worse. It's the Republicans in power, Stupid! They are the ememy, not Obama or any Democrat that wins the nomination. Smarten up and leave your political vanity until after November. You are right about a coming landslide, I can hardly wait for my permanent absentee ballot to arrive by October 10th and be one of the first to vote out the war criminals. Until then, I register working class people to vote instead of attacking my own. If you really want to win in November and begin to take back our country, quit bitching and fight. I have a feeling you will in the end. Got to go, those damn black helicopters are getting closer. And thank you very much.

by James Cordray (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 55 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 9:51:56 AM
 


I'm a 29 year old male. 
TyI'm a 29 year old male. 

Not progressive

You're obviously not a progressive since you don't believe our elections are fraudulent and feed us this nonsense that only the Republican party is our enemy. Democrats need to get it through their head that the Democratic Party is little different than the Republican party. The Democratic Party exists to prevent progressive change by co-opting progressives into joining a political party that opposes their interests.

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 703 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 10:13:32 AM
 


I'm a 29 year old male. 
TyI'm a 29 year old male. 

Obama

Not only will the election be stolen but just like John Kerry, Obama won't do anything about it.

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 703 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 10:18:00 AM
 


Michael Cavlan , RN, was an Official Green Party Observer for the 2004 Ohio Re-Count.
He was the Green Party Candidate for US Senate 2006 and is a Candidate US Senate
2008 Seeking Green Party Endorsement in Minnesota. See www.michaelcavlan.org

Michael CavlanMichael Cavlan , RN, was an Official Green Party Observer for the 2004 Ohio Re-Count.
He was the Green Party Candidate for US Senate 2006 and is a Candidate US Senate
2008 Seeking Green Party Endorsement in Minnesota. See www.michaelcavlan.org

I Was In Ohio 2004

Ty,

 

I was an Official Green Party Observer that went to Ohio in 2004. I agree with Dave and I agree with you. There is a good chance that this election will be stolen and Obama will do nothing about it, just like Al Gore and John Kerry.

 

Mind you, corporate money has already stolen our elections anyway although that little inconvenient truth make some so called progressives just a little uncomfortable.

 

It is not just the evil Republicans who are the enemy of working people. 

by Michael Cavlan (7 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 211 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 11:10:09 AM
 


SW Texas ultra-liberal
john riggsSW Texas ultra-liberal

Dave,,,

They already stole it. If You have not noticed the globes using the mass media have pushed aside all the kosher candidates. Many of us believe Paul won the Texas primary, but his own party rigged the primary in favor of the status quo.

I have been asserting for somne time now, and have been ridiculed for it, that Hillary will be installed to continue the cover-up and continued money laundering of CIA funds once under the control of Ameritrust, Leo Wanta´s CIA front. There is a reason we had the Clinton-Bush mafia in control for umpteen years now, and it aint their belief in civic duty. Vince Foster and Wanta´s partner were whacked to keep a tight lid on the biggest story of political crime in the history of the world. They didnt even pay for the PROMIS software used in the theft. Why cant they just take the money and go away ?

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 396 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 11:56:35 AM
 


Brent Turner is an election integrity activist. He has founded numerous activist groups- He is an Oxford graduate currently living in California.
Brent TurnerBrent Turner is an election integrity activist. He has founded numerous activist groups- He is an Oxford graduate currently living in California.

Sub Media reform

Again, we all know the systems are atrocious-  The question is how to fix them-  Since we use computers and technology - Rule # 1 is you must always have open source software and a real paper ballot.  From there you can get your arms around the reconcilliation issues and move towards better days-

In the activist community - fundraisers like MoveOn and The Lawyer's Committee for Civil Rights, along with some bloggers, have set the agenda that our best strategy was to ask for the computers to be thrown out, and that we return to hand counting. This is understandable as a reaction but ignorant as a strategy-  There is no sign the computers will magically disappear. It now appears that all this strategy has been horribly misplaced and has damaged the election integrity " movement"-  Some, like yours truly, even go so far as to suspect the corporate powers as planting false leadership within the election reform movement. It is interesting that Microsoft is aligned with this leadership to the extent they attempt to disinform regarding open source solutions. Note David Dill consults MoveOn and the Lawyer's Committee-  Dill is to be found in the Bill Gates Wing at Stanford and appears influenced by Microsoft.

Thanks  to David for the note-   While Mark Crispin Miller  is less offensive than other fund raising  pundits, the backlash towards main stream media is relevant in our analysis of the sub media blog type writers. Mark is a good professor and I hope he joins the solutions people-   If he wants to continue to profit by selling books on this point, Mark should educate himself further and join the real movement -  Rather than just complaining-  Let's get something done-    Brent Turner 

by Brent Turner (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 89 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 12:02:18 PM
 


Faculty member at University of Kentucky. Teacher, Researcher, social activist. Political independent who believes in better government, not necessarily smaller or larger government.
Peter WedlundFaculty member at University of Kentucky. Teacher, Researcher, social activist. Political independent who believes in better government, not necessarily smaller or larger government.

2008 Election will be stolen

Boy, you fellas are really out there.  I mean you take factual information, extrapolate it and draw your conclusions from those extrapolated reaches.  It all sounds plausible, but it ends up a big stretch.  Please, come back and join us here on planet Earth.  Hate to see you fellas become the polar opposites of Karl Rove.  He could justify just about any position by doing what you are doing. 

The established Democrats are not providing the leadership and change they were elected to  bring us in 2006.  Quit blaming Obama for this and start telling those Democratic leaders  to either wise up or look for a new job.  That's what I did.  There is no reason we need to have anyone in Congress who does not view accountability as their #1 JOB RESPONSIBILITY, period.    

Obama has a tough road ahead of him and is doing the best he can to not alienate voters. Maybe you forgot, he needs a MAJORITY to win?  Once Obama's opposition can taint him with the DIVISIVE label Obama loses.  Read the papers.  All he did was try to explain why he felt people cling to guns, religion and tighter immigration laws by saying they are bitter and his poll numbers stopped rising or even fell slightly in PA.  Imagine the headlines if Obama announces he is ready to start criminal investigations of Bush/Cheney on Day #1.  The Democratic party looks like the party of REVENGE and many in the public get turned off.  Maybe not you, but lots of other people will and they also have a right to vote.

You have to decide what is most important, turing this country around or getting what you want?  Start with the most important things first and work your way down.  This country has been going nowhere fast because everything is about what "I want" and not about what "the country needs".  I need my taxes cut.  I need less regulation.  I need to have government stop abortions.  I want my government to kick ass when other countries don't do what we want them to do.  Sound familiar.  Now, "you want" Bush/Cheney investigated.  What about first getting people behind the need to work together again?  What about changing the culture in Washington so Congress responds to the needs of the country instead of focusing on how they can "pay back" their special interest donors? 

I'm sure you mean well, but it is time to WORK for real change and not just DEMAND it.  Being bitter is easy.  Everyone is bitter today.  Everyone has some concern or complaint to air.  You can focus that anger on constructive change or you can let your anger produce more bitterness and more anger.  Truth is, there are a lot of things that need changing.  As Ross Perot would say, let's roll up our sleeves and get to work.  Once we get busy changing things the bitterness will take care of itself. 

by Peter Wedlund (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 154 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 1:40:17 PM
 


The Risk Averse Alert is Power to Prosper

"Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'"

-- Matthew 7:22-23

GoldenTThe Risk Averse Alert is Power to Prosper

"Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'"

-- Matthew 7:22-23

Standing Up the Real John McCain

Outstanding ariticle.

Glad to see you call Iraq an "occupation" and not a "war." It is, indeed, a fine demonstration of neo-colonialism.

British Toryism has thoroughly infiltrated American culture. Our political institutions have been corrupted for as long as I have been alive (48 years).

John McCain proves himself a modern-day Aaron Burr with his call for a 100 year war in the Middle East. A patriot? I think not. Like Burr, Mr. McCain is a traitor to the principles for which this nation was founded.

Colonialism is criminal and for this we fought a Revolution.

As per Mr. Obama... I'd rather be a snowball in Hades than a black man running for President. As soon as Hillary is out of the way, the MSM is going to chew him up.

Thanks for the "reality check," David. I get it...

Tom Chechatka

by GoldenT (6 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 51 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 1:40:20 PM
 


Kevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral sys...

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Kevin GosztolaKevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral sys...

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Who's Saying No?

The mantra I will use in response to support for Obama or Clinton will be until November, "Who's saying no?" Who isn't saying no will be who I vote for. In an election that is ripe for third party candidates, it won't be hard to find a third party or independent candidate to vote for. If one appears on my ballot, he or she will be getting my vote.

This is the first presidential election in my life that I will be able to legally vote for the next president. I cite Nader's explanation of the DemRep Party situation in order to illuminate my reasoning for not throwing away my vote to Obama or Clinton whose candidacies are spoiling this election for the American People.

The strategy of the Democratic Party is to beat the Republicans by becoming more like them,” Nader said. “How can they get away with that? If they become more like the Republican Party they start eating into the Republican vote. This usually would inflict a price on them. They would lose the left’s vote, but since the left signaled to the Democrats that their vote can be taken for granted because the Republicans are too horrible to contemplate, they get both. As a result, when you put this cocktail together, becoming more Republican to get Republican votes and hanging on to the left because they have nowhere to go, you set up a tug in the direction of the corporations. There is no discernable end to this strategy by the left. When you ask the left they say not this year, sometime later. But when? If it is not now, if it is sometime in the future, when? What is their breaking point? If you do not have a breaking point you are a slave.

That is from Chris Hedges' report on peace voters in America titled, "Conscientious Objector", which will help anybody understand why David Swanson is running into more and more people who are voting McKinney or Nader in November.

by Kevin Gosztola (195 articles, 103 quicklinks, 64 diaries, 779 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 1:50:03 PM
 


Not a politician, for God's sake not a journalist, just your regular joe who's baffled with the mess this country is in. Only 4 democrat presidents since JKF and they still blame them for all this mess!I am an engineer, major league wannabe, Naturalized in 04 to vote against bush.
Frank grNot a politician, for God's sake not a journalist, just your regular joe who's baffled with the mess this country is in. Only 4 democrat presidents since JKF and they still blame them for all this mess!I am an engineer, major league wannabe, Naturalized in 04 to vote against bush.

Divided States of America - DSA

Greg Palast was the first one to predict the results of the 2008 elections… Stolen again. Not only is it the only and strongest playbook the Military Industrial Complex can master, election fraud, but it is the easiest one so far. With ABC, Fox, CNN and the rest of the main stream media so docile and servile, dishing out everything that’s put on their plate, as an obedient bastard that they are, we (I) have no  “Hope” of someone like Barak Obama, Gore, or Kerry becoming presidents of this monster of a nation.

The interests are so incredibly deep and entrenched that it is virtually impossible for a normal, junior senator to ambition to a higher office. That is why the Clintons keep pounding on the “experience” issue. They have been in Washington for over 18 years, and they know how the Washington mafia operates. So does McCain, who was so smeared by Bush, that even I got angry, but no him, he’s an experienced politician.

My question is to Bill Clinton (who in my opinion, has squandered all the popularity and good will we had for him), where has he been in the last 8 years when we were (still are) being raped by the Bush administration. And now he comes out more fiery than when the R(acists) attacked him for all he is and was but against Obama!! . Personally it is the saddest experience I have lived anywhere. The sad state of these Divided States of America DSA not USA.

Pretty soon, we’re all going to be wearing a (mandatory) badge with all kinds of micro-chips and RF transmitters courtesy of ABC, FOX “News”, United Technologies, McDonalds, Boeing and Halliburton. This is the NWO (New World Order) this nation is fast becoming, to no avail.  Just like John Dean wrote in his book “Worse than Watergate”, now I say we are about to enter a stage worse than the Gestapo, all while “exporting democracy and freedom”.

(don’t forget to wear you American flag lapel pin, the NWO police will arrest you).  

by Frank gr (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 49 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 1:54:08 PM
 


DOB -- September 20, 1940. Became active in civil rights and peace movements in 1962. Active in socialist and antiwar movements -- 1963-69. Active in Gay Liberation from 1969 to present.
rhalfhillDOB -- September 20, 1940. Became active in civil rights and peace movements in 1962. Active in socialist and antiwar movements -- 1963-69. Active in Gay Liberation from 1969 to present.

STOP VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRATS AS THE LESSER EVIL

Frank gr:  John Kerry said he would have been for invading Iraq even if he had known there were no weapons of mass destruction there and that he would send more troops "if the generals asked for them." This practice of voting for Democrats as the lesser evil has become so ingrained that the voter ASSUME the Democrat espouses the progressive positions they support even if he or she does not.  A poll that was taken during the 2004 campaign, that I read about in the Minneapolis STAR TRIBUNE, reported that the majority of people thought that Kerry was opposed to the Iraq war, although in fact he was not.

Al Gore expressed no dissent from Bill Clinton's policies while he was Vice President.  Clintom implemented the policies of the Democratic Leadership Council and was referred to by liberals as a Republican in the White House.  Although the first Gulf war against Iraq happened under George Bush, Sr., Clinton continued Bush's blockade of Iraq, which resulted in the death of at least 500,000 Iraquis.

And when many third world nations decided to manufacture AIDS medicines themselves, as international trade rules permitted them to do, so they could make them affordable to their citizens, Gore served as the hit man who threatened them with U.S. trade sanctions if they infringed on the pharmaceutical companies' patents.  ACT-UP had to demonstrate at his every public appearence in response to his attempt to deny life saving medicines to poor, third world people.

WAKE UP AND STOP DEFEATING YOURSELF BY VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS!  VOTE FOR GREEN PARTY CANDIDATE CYNTHIA MCKINNEY FOR PRESIDENT!

Robert Halfhill

by rhalfhill (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 270 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 7:31:04 PM
 


School administrator and educator for 26 years and business owner for another 14. Ran for Congress in 2002 as an anti-war candidate and lost. Remain politically active and always will, but now devoted to issues concerning justice, peace and the environment through local community organizing and action.
More VoicesSchool administrator and educator for 26 years and business owner for another 14. Ran for Congress in 2002 as an anti-war candidate and lost. Remain politically active and always will, but now devoted to issues concerning justice, peace and the environment through local community organizing and action.

Recent Congressional Handiwork Toward Stolen Elections

Another Frustrating Day in the House under Democratic Leadership

Thursday, April 17, 2008

by Dick Kaiser, DFA-Tucson


On April 15, as millions of Americans made a commitment to fulfill their obligation to fund yet again the commonwealth and its imperialistic ways, the House of Representatives all but guaranteed that election integrity in November this year will be a crap-shoot at best.


The story begins full of good news....


At 4pm Empire time, the House voted on HR 5036, the Emergency Election Assistance for Secure Elections Act authored by Rush Holt (D-NJ), providing for paper ballots throughout the country. Already, the bill had been voted unanimously out of the House Administration Committee, chaired by Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), for a full House vote. With strong bi-partisan support, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer put the measure on the "suspension" calendar which requires a 2/3's "aye" vote for passage.


So far so good, right?


But just prior to the vote, the White House signaled to Bush supporters in the House to vote “nay” on the bill, and to real democracy. Despite this maneuver, Hoyer, who is responsible for 1) how legislation is brought to the floor and 2) assessing vote strength for each bill headed for a vote, forged ahead on the fast but risky track, apparently oblivious to the control Bush still has among House Republicans.

 

Result?

 

The bill failed miserably to achieve the two-thirds threshold, 239-178, and the initiative to support paper ballots was stalled, possibly until the next Congress!

 

As expected, Holt and co-author Robert Wexler (D-FL) blamed Bush and the Republicans who claimed the legislation would “cost too much.” http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/nj12_holt/041508.html But it is clear that activists need to be cognizant of the botched job of the leadership of the House Democrats. (Why on earth did Hoyer risk certain defeat and simply put the bill to a floor vote under regular business? Now that we know the sorry result, a slower, but surer approach would have probably saved the day.)

 

Or, was this defeat of the bill not bungling but duplicity at work to sabotage an imperfect, but helpful, bill? After all, the elections corporations were fighting this bill, big time. (We may need to wait for some politician's memoirs to be written to know the answer to that one.)

Who's fault this is, readers will need to decide. But the question remains, “Does Congress have the will to protect the People from the Perpetrators on Election Day?


Dick Kaiser, co-chair

DFA-Tucson



by More Voices (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 2:24:57 PM
 


SW Texas ultra-liberal
john riggsSW Texas ultra-liberal

Its been a long time coming,

but they finally got us. http://www.illuminati-news.com/0/House.htm

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 396 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 4:09:36 PM
 


I have achieved nothing of consequence apart from raising children in a way that they would excel where I failed. And they are on good tracks.
ramsheyiI have achieved nothing of consequence apart from raising children in a way that they would excel where I failed. And they are on good tracks.

No Exceptions To The Rule

Every election so far has been stolen, why shouldn't this one ? There has not been a revolution so far to our knowledge. The 3 miserable puppets are all Elite's picks, as we all know. And the circus set up is to decide which of the gangsters is the vilest and the craftiest in the art of deceit 

by ramsheyi (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 412 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 5:27:32 PM
 


Conservative prolife anti-death penalty tree hugger. Believe that less government is good government, government cannot solve anyone's personal problems, the government taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people is a crime, and that people should take responsibility for their own lives.
Mad JayhawkConservative prolife anti-death penalty tree hugger. Believe that less government is good government, government cannot solve anyone's personal problems, the government taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people is a crime, and that people should take responsibility for their own lives.

Gore did not win

The Supreme Court stopped a recount in Florida in 2000 that would have made Al Gore president.

The USSC was totally justified in doing so. The FL SC rewrote FL election law in the middle of an election in order to benefit one candidate over another. The USSC had no choice. What the FL SC did was, without a doubt, unconstitutional. Election laws can not be rewritten during an election because someone doesn't like the outcome of the election.

Gore essentially wanted to keep recounting using HIS, and not the State of Florida's, criteria for counting ballots until he got the result that he wanted. Hanging chads, dimpled chads, reading the minds of those who did not select either candidate. Whatever it took. It was a total farce.

The law in FL was followed and Gore was not happy with the result so he went to court to get his way and the election laws changed during the recount. For a moment he got a court to change the election laws for him. He was the one actually trying to steal the election. After two recounts, Bush had already won it. Gore, the incompetent fool, lost the legal battle and the election. Get over it.

Most people do not bother to recall the fight in FL was totally unnecessary. All Gore had to do was win his 'home' state of Tennessee or Clinton's 'home' state of Arkansas or even little old NH. His campaign was so incompetent that he couldn't win any of those. He deserved what he got. He ran the worst campaign for president in 50 years.

Elections are stolen. That is a fact of life. Both Democrats and Republicans have stolen them. It always causes me to laugh when some ignorant idiot wants to try to make us believe that the righteous Democrats do not steal elections. It makes me laugh even more when I see all the heads of all the fools nodding in agreement.  Ask Hillary why one formerly Republican district in NYC voted for her something like 1800-2 during her Senate campaign.  That would be interesting to learn more about.  No cheating going on there I bet.  And I bet Diebold wasn't anywhere near there.

We should be non-partisan viligant. Elections should be fair because if they are not then we have bigger problems. Be a judge. Do your part. That is one way to help insure that elections are fair. 

by Mad Jayhawk (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 227 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 10:40:09 PM
 


Election Issues Committee Chairman for the Pinellas County, FL Democratic Executive Committee. I want to put a link to your site on our homepage, and I'm working on getting permission to do so.
GitarChrisElection Issues Committee Chairman for the Pinellas County, FL Democratic Executive Committee. I want to put a link to your site on our homepage, and I'm working on getting permission to do so.

Drunk on Kool Aid

You believe all the cover stories whitewashing the Stolen 2000 election in Florida.

There is no way to ignore all the Republican congressional staffers who were, for some reason, creating a mob scene to stop the recount in Miami. That action stands as stark testimony against the mountains of excuses the Republicans have made up to cover their theft.

Your excuse can be that the Republicans have controlled the Mass Media since the end of the fairness doctrine, and with Bill Clinton's blessing. I guess if you hear Randy Savage repeat anything enough, you'll think it's true. The Republicans have been producing tons of BS as fodder for their talk radio and Fox propaganda organs since Goldwater got creamed. Believe their lies at your own peril.

The Republicans didn't want all the votes counted before, and they don't want the votes counted this November. That is why the Republican controlled state legislatures ignore even modest improvements in optical scanner audits. No ten thousand pages of obfuscation will serve to cover up that essential fact.

The Republicans will do everything they can to stay in power, so you can expect them to steal the election in November.

 

by GitarChris (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 112 comments) on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 10:17:30 AM
 


Lynn Beckman is a freelance writer and political activist. She resides in Colorado with her husband and teenage son.
Lynn BeckmanLynn Beckman is a freelance writer and political activist. She resides in Colorado with her husband and teenage son.

2008 Election

If everyone would request an absentee ballot (easy to do online) and we started a movement to demand that these votes be counted before any winner is declared, we'd at least have a paper trail to document a stolen election. It's not foolproof, but it would make it harder for them.

by Lynn Beckman (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 27 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 10:47:53 PM
 


Michael McCoy is a free American, Vietnam era vet and has ensured that he can withstand an IRS audit and any sudden, unannounced search of his home and documents, in his absence or otherwise. He obsesses about nothing but abscesses over the perversion of his country's ideals, values and democratic due process by cleverly disguised dictators. He has a passion to see the real mass murderers of 911 exposed with all due disgrace - and each conspirator/liar that sought the invasion of Iraq and the s...

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Michael McCoyMichael McCoy is a free American, Vietnam era vet and has ensured that he can withstand an IRS audit and any sudden, unannounced search of his home and documents, in his absence or otherwise. He obsesses about nothing but abscesses over the perversion of his country's ideals, values and democratic due process by cleverly disguised dictators. He has a passion to see the real mass murderers of 911 exposed with all due disgrace - and each conspirator/liar that sought the invasion of Iraq and the s...

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Hold on to your socks in November, maybe in October

To continue the fascist/elitist agenda in America, McCain's election is imperative.  For them, the stakes simply could not be higher.  The plans and strategies are well rehearsed and the fix is in.  The press will roll over and play dead and the bewildered herd will, once again, be of the impression that they live and participate in a democracy.

All of this is assuming, of course, that the Bush team doesn't have a new and improved 911 up their sleeves - a real hum-dinger of an October surprise.  Elections cancelled, a president turned dictator and there would be no going back.

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