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December 1, 2007 at 12:40:07

Merry Christmas Hawaii - And Bombs Away!

by Cathy Garger (Posted by Cathy Garger)

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Merry Christmas, Hawaii – and Bombs Away!

Cathy Garger

 

It’s the end of the world as we know it. The US Military has officially run out of foreign lands to bomb. Apparently out of desperation to find a place to publicly ejaculate their huge, heavy loads, the US Air Force has chosen the Big Island of Hawaii as its bulls-eye target. Unfortunately for Hawaiian paradise, however, this time it’s going to take far more than a super size box of Kleenex to tidy up this particular wad containing Uncle Sam’s latest hot, dirty, and unquestionably most slimy mess. 

According to a recent Associated Press article, “B-2 Stealth Bombers Hit US Targets”, the United States government is using both Hawaii and Alaska to expand its war games and better train pilots to unload mega-size Uranium bombs on – shhhh – unsuspecting North Koreans. Meanwhile, Uncle Sam, convincingly playing the part of one mighty sick, twisted Santa, is apparently reneging on his promise to make nice and remove North Korea from his Naughty [State Sponsors of Terrorism] List. 

How considerate of Uncle Sam to give such a generous warning, months in advance, of his impending blitzkrieg on one more unsuspecting Asian nation! But, for some strange reason, the citizens of Hawaii received no such courtesy prior to being “cursed” with monthly bloody bombings, not even the benefit of predictability enjoyed by women visited every month by their “Auntie Flo.”  

What harm would it do, if you really think about it, for the US government to run a small ad in Hawaii’s federal mouthpiece, The Honolulu Advertiser, in which they could announce for Hawaiians the dates during which they should attempt to locate suitable bomb shelters on “that” day of the month? Well, at least it would be a mighty thoughtful touch! 

One seriously wonders what horrible things Hawaiians have done to become such bad little boys and girls that their very own authoritarian Uncle Sammy – who they have, after all, permitted for over one hundred years to play soldier upon their land and in their sea - would sadistically “repay” them for their warm Aloha-spirit hospitality by dropping bombs from stealth Air Force B-2 bombers on them… ‘round Christmastime, no less! 

No matter what the offense, no matter how bad Hawaiians have been to merit domestic air raids by their own, one certainly suspects that dumping many thousands of pounds of coal atop the Hawaiian Isle would be a far more suitable punishment (not to mention an infinitely better eco-friendly gesture) than being forced into being sitting ducks for bombing practice from the heavens above! 

But times they certainly are a ‘changing! Why, once upon a time in an era many US War Presidents ago, it used to be that attacks on Hawaii were staged by other nations – Japan, for example. Now, in this modern post-9/11 age, any nation is fair game for attack … even when the people on the island you’re bombing happen to wave the very same red, white, and blue flag as the other forty nine states! 

No, this is no parody you’re reading. This news is so priceless I could not make this stuff up! The United States Air Force has actually started bombing its own country, in order to conduct what they claim is necessary bombing practice for North Korea – or whoever’s up for the next US “hit!” 

Courtesy of the AP article, released as a gift to America on Thanksgiving Day (when we were too busy wolfing down turkey and stuffing to notice or even care), we now learn, quite after the fact, that US B-2 “Spirit” Stealth Bombers have started routinely bombing the US state of Hawaii. 

According to the US Air Force website, the domestic bombing began this year on October 23. Reportedly, the first Bombs Away event, being called Hawaii’s “October Surprise,” was part of an exercise called “Koa Lightning,” in which B-2s flew from Guam to Hawaii, dropping the bombs on the Big Island’s Pohakuloa Training Area.  

At least one dozen of these mega-bombs were dropped the first month, at $1.2 million US Dollars a pop. Called “inert” and “dummy” because they reportedly do not explode, the Air Force tells us, as if from an ad for homemade jam, bombings are conducted, “the old fashioned way too. No laser designating the target and no joint direct attack munitions with global positioning system guidance. It was just the aviators, their instruments, a deadly airframe and some Airmen on the mock battlefield calling in the coordinates.”  

As these are not your Air Force standard, computer-guided, “built in, state of the art targeting system” drops, the aviators and their uh, instruments, work on a “deadly timeframe,” relying on nothing but gravity … and the capricious whim of Mother Nature’s tropical winds.  

So don those hard hats and heads up, Hawaii, ‘cause where those “old-fashioned ‘dumb bombs’ without precision guidance” land next is anybody’s guess! And a 2,000 lb. bomb – make that a 2,000 lb. anything… released from a point higher than the mountaintops that goes even a wee bit off course is definitely going to cause some poor Hawaiian one mighty colossal headache! 

According to the AP article, the Air Force has “only started dropping inert bombs on the Big Island's Pohakuloa Training Area [PTA] last month.” One can not help wondering if this bombing that “only” started last month is not possibly payback for the work of outspoken activists who recently opposed the permanent stationing of the 2/25th Stryker Brigade Combat Team at PTA? Coincidentally [or maybe not?] Pohakuloa is the same live-fire test training area where mega-bombs are now getting dropped out of B-2 jets onto grounds where Depleted Uranium was discovered in August 

With regard to the “Koa Lightning” bombing of Hawaii exercises, one of the B-2 pilots, Major Tim Hale, stated, “This particular mission covers the full spectrum of what we can do.” With a nation so desperate to practice dropping bombs that it chooses as its Ground Zero the sacred, culturally rich, pristine paradise of Hawaii, there is no question that the full spectrum of what we can do has indeed been achieved … at the very lowest, bottom-of-the-barrel end of the spectrum, that is.  

With the bombing of Hawaii a jolly old ho (ho, ho) hum affair, not just the United States but the international community, too, now gets to witness the utter depths of just how low the United States will go in order to wage its aggressive wars. For to depraved Uncle Sam in the role of Santa-Gone-Bad this holiday season, not even Hawaii – considered by many to be the world’s favorite tropical vacation spot – is sacred. 

On its own website, the US Air Force reminds us that the capability of the B-2 bombers (apparently considered the pinnacle of Air Force prowess) must not be underestimated. "Strategic bombers in and of themselves are huge force multipliers," according to Tech. Sgt. Richard Setlock, a JTAC from the 25th Air Support Operations Squadron.

Furthermore, according to Sgt. Setlock, "Fighter attack aircraft can stay on station for 45-minutes and provide six to eight bombs. We can have a bomber overhead for two to four hours and provide four times the firepower that a fighter attack aircraft could."  

The military’s orgiastic thrills and chills of “force multiplier” capabilities aside, one wonders how the local Hawaiian school children are coping? What must it be like for these precious young ones, learning their A, B, C’s, numbers, and colors, too, with not merely jets overhead, but stealth bombers that provide four times the firepower of fighter attack aircraft?  

Distant memories of 1960s bomb drills hiding underneath kindergarten desks suddenly come to mind. One wonders how Hawaiian teachers go about explaining to tiny tots that the bombs, each weighing about as much as four classroom pianos... are being dropped by their own country, that is [gulp] by the “good guys”.  

In correspondence with Bob Nichols, Project Censored Award winner and weapons expert of The San Francisco Bay View, Nichols wrote of the B-2 bombs,, "It is just a matter of time till the 376,000 lb heavy bombers hit a school playground or someone's house with the equivalent of a small car at 160 mph and kill no telling how many people. Just chalk it up to the annual required human sacrifice to keep the big Military payroll in Hawaii. The city fathers made a bad deal with the devil for a few dollars more." 

The devil may have made them do it, but do the local officials even know? According to Mayor of the County of Hawaii, Harry Kim, this is apparently not the case. "I was not aware that they were dropping bombs up there."  Mayor Kim also added that the public has a right to know about what’s going on – and when Hawaiians can expect the 2,000 pound drops gracing them from up above. "They really need to be proactive about informing us so we can inform the public," he said. "The public needs to know when these types of exercises are going on, especially those who drive Saddle Road." 

Yes, there’s no doubt about it. These bombs are a threat to Hawaii, and when even the local government’s top official is not made aware of the mortal danger his citizens face on a regular basis, one suspects that Uncle Sam does a mighty lousy job as Federal Duck-and-Cover Communicator for the oblivious residing in Pacific paradise. 

As explained by the Air Force on its website, “The global reach and long loiter time over a target is a unique capability of America's bomber force. This makes the B-2 especially lethal to America's enemies.”  Furthermore, as Col. Damian McCarthy, 36th Operations Group commander, elaborates, "Having the ability to stay over a target for extended periods, especially in a stealth airframe, gives the combatant commander the option to strike the bad guys at a time and place of their choosing." 

What none of these military load-dropping, macho-types explain, however, is just whose bright idea it was to use the Big Island of Hawaii for their bombing target practice fun. The island of Hawaii is, after all, a place where 160,000 citizens live and work, and 1.5 million tourists from around the globe come each year to sun, fun, and play. Can someone please tell me exactly when did the gentle, peace-loving people from the Aloha state get placed on the list as America’s declared “enemies” and “bad guys” in order to merit humongous, lethal bomb drops by B2 stealth bombers?  

One can understand why Hawaiians are a tad more than concerned about the very real possibility of stray, off-course bombs being dropped on their heads. What is even more disturbing, however, is the fact that these bombs – weighing roughly the same as a Honda CRX model car - are being dropped from altitudes 18,000 feet above the mountains … onto grounds contaminated with deadly toxic and radioactive Depleted Uranium from years of live-fire training. 

Can you just imagine how 2,000 pounds of concentrated dead weight, dropped from the skies, will rustle up and render airborne the Depleted Uranium in the soils on the Pohakuloa Training Area? And just how safe can this be, in terms of air quality, with lethal Depleted Uranium being re-suspended in the air by these bomb drops … particularly for those living in nearby towns?  According to the Army’s 2000 health fact sheet on Depleted Uranium, “DU can also be inhaled when DU particles in the environment are resuspended into the atmosphere by wind or other disturbances.”

Is there any question in anyone’s mind that such a heavy bomb, dropped from the heavens and landing in radioactive soils, creates one hell of a “disturbance?” Jim Albertini, of the Malu ‘Aina Center for Non-Violent Education & Action says of the bombings, “This, along with other training at PTA, is an outrage given the presence of Depleted Uranium (DU) confirmed at PTA. The full extent of the contamination is not yet known but the military is taking action that risks spreading the stuff around. It shows the complete disregard for the health and safety of Hawaii residents and the military people who train on the ground there.” 

Wouldn’t it make sense to remediate the contaminated soils at Pohakuloa, as is required by Army Regulation 700-48 before even thinking about dropping mega-bombs there? Is the Army in such a hurry to “practice” bombing the hell out of North Korea that it simply cannot wait another few months till it cleans up the mess it created in Hawaii by playing around there with its nuke weapons (and God-only-knows-what-other Uranium munitions)? 

Has this grand US imperial Empire, in its zealous myopic dream of waging wars at any cost, decided to totally waste the once pristine, lush, exotic Hawaiian island - and its very own citizens to boot? Does anyone know precisely when our nation made the decision to condemn Hawaii for billions of years as a radioactive “national sacrifice zone,” the “payoff” being the ability to wage continuous wars against innocent civilians … in both Hawaii as well as in far-off lands? 

Perhaps in lieu of being greeted in the future with flowered leis, future visitors to Hawaii’s airport should, by all rights, be appropriately welcomed with Army-issued gas masks and radioactive MOPP gear suits instead. While the Hawaiian tourist industry admittedly may tank once photos get out depicting the rather, um, encumbered manner in which Hawaiian tourists will now be outfitted, on the plus side, US troops would then be able to invade, occupy, and take as their own private playground vacant Hawaiian hotels and resorts where tourists and vacationers, fearing radioactive contamination, will no longer venture. 

 So say goodbye, all ye citizens of the world, to the former tropical paradise of the Aloha state! Please know you have been forewarned and travel to Hawaii now at your own risk.  Vacation now on the Big Island and prepare to be greeted with the US military’s own uniquely gracious brand of hospitality … the invisible “gift” of inhaled Uranium aerosol blowing in the warm tropical winds, bestowed upon unsuspecting residents and tourists alike, for all eternity. 

To learn more and find out what you can do to help keep Hawaii safe from domestic bombing and further radioactive contamination, visit the folks at Protect Hawaii and say Aloha to them for me.

 http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_25559.shtml   

 

Cathy Garger is a freelance writer, public speaker, activist, and a certified personal coach who specializes in Uranium weapons. Living in the shadow of the national District of Crime, Cathy is constantly nauseated by the stench emanating from the nation's capital during the Washington, DC, federal work week. Cathy may be contacted at savorsuccesslady3@yahoo.com .

  

 

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Lisa is a professional psychic counselor and investigator, a web designer and a publisher. She has an AA, a BA and a private pilots license. She is a member of the Screen Actors Guild and has worked and lived around the world. She has been listed in Who's Who' in Executives, and has won Art and Advertising Awards.
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Lisa LongLisa is a professional psychic counselor and investigator, a web designer and a publisher. She has an AA, a BA and a private pilots license. She is a member of the Screen Actors Guild and has worked and lived around the world. She has been listed in Who's Who' in Executives, and has won Art and Advertising Awards.
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Army Briefing on Depleted Uranium Contamination in Hawaii

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3469152964167718824

Army Briefing on Depleted Uranium (DU) Contamination in Hawaii
AngelsForTruth Productions - 2 hr 0 min 25 sec - Nov 29, 2007 
State Representative Cindy Evans hosted this meeting to update West Hawaii on the depleted uranium found at Pohakuloa Training Area on the Big Island. Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007, Kealakehe High School, Kailua, Kona HI 

Col. Killian, U.S. Army Deputy Director of the Army Installation Management Command and Russ Takata of the Department of Health's Noise, Radiation, and Indoor Air Quality Division, were guest speakers. Col. Mark Melanson of Walter Reed Medical Center answers a few questions as does Dr. James Morrow. 

This video is a record of that event. Col. Killian's lecture cuts off a couple minutes short due to a technical error. The Army anticipates completion of a health risk assessment by January or February. West Hawaii residents' statements follow his lecture. Please forgive the broken tripod.. it creaks a bit. 

For more information see: http://HawaiiBeat.com 

by Lisa Long (4 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 43 comments) on Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 10:53:06 PM
 


Just an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.
Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

Misguided and ungrateful....

"Has this grand US imperial Empire, in its zealous myopic dream of waging wars at any cost, decided to totally waste the once pristine, lush, exotic Hawaiian island - and its very own citizens to boot? Does anyone know precisely when our nation made the decision to condemn Hawaii for billions of years as a radioactive “national sacrifice zone,” the “payoff” being the ability to wage continuous wars against innocent civilians … in both Hawaii as well as in far-off lands?" -- Garger

I guess it would be one thing to question and debate in good faith the national defense benefits vs. liabilities of dropping bombs on a U.S. mid-Pacific military range, or raise questions about a possible health concern created by the military, but the above paragraph, which characterizes the author's aim, mindset and attitude is really misplaced and over the top.  "Imperial empire"?  Yeah, right.  "Radioactive national sacrifice zone"?  No, a few chunks of DU tail-fin are no more a radioactive hazard than is a day at the solar-radiated beach, or a trip on an airliner high in the atmosphere.  Infinitely less, in fact.  There is no possibility of anything being "kicked up", because there is nothing TO kick up.  Even if something WAS kicked up, it STILL wouldn't be a health hazard. 
 
These bombings are not without reason and/or objective.  From another news story:

Bruce Bechtol, a professor at the Marine Corps Command and Staff College in Quantico, Va., said North Korea refers to the Guam bomber deployments in its propaganda, indicating it felt their presence.

Pyongyang realizes the U.S. would use the planes to respond if the North attacked South Korea, said Bechtol, an expert on air power on the Korean peninsula. It is also well aware of planes and forces the U.S. has amassed in Japan that could be used against it, he said.

"This all affects how North Korea looks at their foreign policy, how they look may engage in with their neighbor," Bechtol said.


Is it completely lost on Ms. Garger that the institution she slanders and mischaracterizes has been instrumental in the existence of her very freedom to make such vile and erroneous statements about that institution, along with similar freedoms enjoyed in America, hence Hawaii and other free and newly free nations?  That's no small feat, but this woman is entirely ungrateful and inexplicably bitter about it.  What she implies and out-right states about America and its military is mindlessly misplaced; it actually applies to the creeps she defends.  Would she be free to write similar things about these despotic leaders, which would actually be accurate, while living within their borders?  Most certainly not.  She would be summarily shut down, jailed, tortured or worse.

The governments of the former Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, North Korea, the former Iraq and other misc. Muslim regimes actually have and continue to murder millions of their own and other nation's citizens for purely self-empowering reasons, and have consistently sought to expand their murderous sphere and stand dead in the way of individual world citizens having even a semblance of the freedoms and standard of living enjoyed by Ms. Garger.

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 411 comments) on Sunday, December 2, 2007 at 7:19:27 PM
 


Nancy believes the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are sound documents worth revering in this great American experiment -- government’s power is limited -- the Bill of Rights is a partial list of rights the government cannot touch -- July 4 is a day our founding documents need to be read with as much fanfare as we can muster. The Preamble mentions six and only six purposes, one being to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity; any other power usurped by ...

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Nancy BracewellNancy believes the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are sound documents worth revering in this great American experiment -- government’s power is limited -- the Bill of Rights is a partial list of rights the government cannot touch -- July 4 is a day our founding documents need to be read with as much fanfare as we can muster. The Preamble mentions six and only six purposes, one being to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity; any other power usurped by ...

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"Merry Christmas Hawaii - And Bombs Away!"

It seems as though you expect damaged and destroyed people to appreciate those who damage and destroy!It matters little – not at all, really – what other regimes have done in their nations. This is America. To allow and even praise damaging activities on the part of the military is short-sighted. That attitude indicates that we have become the enemy. It is beyond my understanding that one can support an institution by calling it slander for someone to criticize a military that has been deceitful, dishonest, recalcitrant in considering the population, and downright backward about doing what it is obligated by federal law to do: research BEFORE loosing the terror on the people and their land and surrounding ocean! The research would show that these military operations should be eliminated and permanently ceased. Who, exactly, are the “creeps she defends”? Bitterness and strong language is indeed in order for anyone who loves this nation and what it stands for.Of what use is standard of living when health and a life-supporting environment are at stake?Hawaii is not “them.” Hawaii is “us” – ALL of us!

by Nancy Bracewell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 19 comments) on Monday, December 3, 2007 at 1:03:34 AM
 


Nancy believes the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are sound documents worth revering in this great American experiment -- government’s power is limited -- the Bill of Rights is a partial list of rights the government cannot touch -- July 4 is a day our founding documents need to be read with as much fanfare as we can muster. The Preamble mentions six and only six purposes, one being to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity; any other power usurped by ...

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Nancy BracewellNancy believes the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are sound documents worth revering in this great American experiment -- government’s power is limited -- the Bill of Rights is a partial list of rights the government cannot touch -- July 4 is a day our founding documents need to be read with as much fanfare as we can muster. The Preamble mentions six and only six purposes, one being to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity; any other power usurped by ...

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"Merry Christmas Hawaii - And Bombs Away!"

It seems as though you expect damaged and destroyed people to appreciate those who damage and destroy!It matters little – not at all, really – what other regimes have done in their nations. This is America. To allow and even praise damaging activities on the part of the military is short-sighted. That attitude indicates that we have become the enemy. It is beyond my understanding that one can support an institution by calling it slander for someone to criticize a military that has been deceitful, dishonest, recalcitrant in considering the population, and downright backward about doing what it is obligated by federal law to do: research BEFORE loosing the terror on the people and their land and surrounding ocean! The research would show that these military operations should be eliminated and permanently ceased. Who, exactly, are the “creeps she defends”? Bitterness and strong language is indeed in order for anyone who loves this nation and what it stands for.Of what use is standard of living when health and a life-supporting environment are at stake?Hawaii is not “them.” Hawaii is “us” – ALL of us!

by Nancy Bracewell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 19 comments) on Monday, December 3, 2007 at 1:03:46 AM
 


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Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

I guess....

I guess the point I was tryng to make, which seems to have been somewhat  minimized, is that if NOT for the U.S. and its military that Garger so disparages, Hawaii would indeed be "them" and not "us" --- that is, these lovely, strategically located islands would NOT be one of the 50 states making up the most benevolent world power the planet has ever known, but brutally ruled by either Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, Communist Russia or some despicable combination thereof.  

I think just a little more benefit of the doubt and a little more respect should be extended to such a country and such a military, especially given the complicated and dangerous nature of the international chess game, and given the fact that the world scientific/health community is anything but amenable to the idea that DU residue is some kind of ominous health threat. 

DU weapons made possible the quick decimation of Saddam's tank force in GWI.  That is why he engaged in a disinformation campaign to get rid of them, (along, no doubt, with an eye toward distracting from the real causes of disease among his population which HE was responsible for) not because of any real DU health threat to his people.  

Which begs the question: Why would ANYONE believe Saddam would put the health of his people high on his list of priorities?  Why would ANYONE think his motives were pure in putting out pictures of deformed babies?

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 411 comments) on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 at 3:54:52 PM
 


Nancy believes the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are sound documents worth revering in this great American experiment -- government’s power is limited -- the Bill of Rights is a partial list of rights the government cannot touch -- July 4 is a day our founding documents need to be read with as much fanfare as we can muster. The Preamble mentions six and only six purposes, one being to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity; any other power usurped by ...

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Led Astray

As for “most benevolent world power the planet has ever known,” check recent history. While you’re at it, figure out at what price this benevolence came. Zero in on resource depletion and military bases.  As for “complicated and dangerous nature of the international chess game” think about who owns the chess pieces and plays them for reasons falling far short of defense of American liberties. While you’re at it, read the Constitution.  As for “world scientific/health community is anything but amenable to the idea that DU residue is some kind of ominous health threat,” do some scientific research for yourself and realize that overt political editing plays a big part in the information you receive. Then go to the horse’s mouth to get information on the health of not only “the enemy” (the folks we went in there to “save,” remember?) but also our returning SICK vets and their rate of birth defects. Then veg out before your favorite corporate-controlled TV station (sorely lacking in anything resembling investigative journalism) and ponder whether your leader’s concern for “health of his people high on his list of priorities” is a valid description. For additional enlightenment, you might want to research “psychopath.” One more question: What is the purpose in destroying that which is your mission to protect and defend?

by Nancy Bracewell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 19 comments) on Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 2:23:19 AM
 


Just an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.
Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

On what basis?

On what do you base your apparent belief that there's been an increase in the rate of birth defects among returning vets, and on what accepted scientific/medical basis do you pin that increase on depleted uranium, of all things?

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 411 comments) on Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 2:53:10 AM
 


Nancy believes the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are sound documents worth revering in this great American experiment -- government’s power is limited -- the Bill of Rights is a partial list of rights the government cannot touch -- July 4 is a day our founding documents need to be read with as much fanfare as we can muster. The Preamble mentions six and only six purposes, one being to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity; any other power usurped by ...

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On this basis

   I started with what I learned in school: There is no safe amount of exposure to radiation for the human body; this fact has not changed.

   Realize that “Depleted Uranium” is just a politically-contrived name for radioactive waste – a name chosen so as to lure the public into thinking it is accurate.

   Read articles at the Gulf War Vets website for information from the source.

Reason advises me to rely more on sources with evidence than sources demanding you believe what they tell you because they tell you.

   Some are awed by artificial “authority,” but I am not one of them. Truth is the only authority.

   "Considering the disturbing reports on the ill effects of DU weapons in the Gulf and the Balkans, it is saddening to note that so far appeals for a moratorium coming from different quarters have not yet prevailed. Killing first and asking questions later has, however, never been a sensible solution"   --United Nations Sub-Commission on Promotion and Protection of Human Rights.

   The Environmental Health Journal, too, presents studies that support my “apparent belief.”

   Research for yourself instead of trusting authority who have allowed self-serving motives to displace honesty.

   There is a reason our Founding Fathers told us eternal vigilance is essential to maintain our republic.

by Nancy Bracewell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 19 comments) on Friday, December 7, 2007 at 2:50:16 PM
 


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Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

All I asked for.....

......was some proof that the rate of birth defects is higher among returning vets, and if this is so, that it's because of depleted uranium.

You base your argument on the fact that there is some kind of observable effect from DU on various groups of people.  I'm simply asking for reliable proof of such an effect.  I've looked for it .... I can't find it.  Where is it?

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 411 comments) on Saturday, December 8, 2007 at 3:34:38 AM
 


Bob Nichols is a Project Censored Award winner. He is a newspaper correspondent and a frequent contributor to various online publications. Nichols is completing a book based on 15 years of nuclear radiation war in Central Asia. He is a former employee at a Army Ammunition Plant and Bomb Maker. Nichols can be reached by email, and readers are encouraged to write to him at: DUweapons@gmail.com
Bob Nichols, Project Censored Award WinnerBob Nichols is a Project Censored Award winner. He is a newspaper correspondent and a frequent contributor to various online publications. Nichols is completing a book based on 15 years of nuclear radiation war in Central Asia. He is a former employee at a Army Ammunition Plant and Bomb Maker. Nichols can be reached by email, and readers are encouraged to write to him at: DUweapons@gmail.com

A littlle light would be good here

"DU weapons made possible the quick decimation of Saddam's tank force in GWI."

Don't go off on that tangent, Boy.

If you knew the first thing about killing all of Saddam's tanks in the First Gulf War you would thank the God of War for the Maverick missile.

That is exactly how 80% of Saddam's tanks bought the farm. By missile! The Abrams 120mm solid uranium 10 lb rounds had very little to do with it. The reason they were used was to distribute poison uraniuim gas and aerosols and kill Iraqis forever. Smell the roses, Boy.

While you are at it, don't deny the obvious. Uranium gas is a deadly killer - forever. Live with it.

The US is the most powerful fascist country with the most lethal military in the history of the world.

The US Expeditionary Forces are up to about 1.3 million Iraqis killed. Do you have a problem with that? Get over it. It is what the US does best.

 

 

 

by Bob Nichols, Project Censored Award Winner (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments) on Friday, December 7, 2007 at 5:03:11 PM
 


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"Boy" responds.....


"If you knew the first thing about killing all of Saddam's tanks in the First Gulf War you would thank the God of War for the Maverick missile.
That is exactly how 80% of Saddam's tanks bought the farm. By missile!"


Are you really here to tell us that there are U.S. missiles that don't contain depleted uranium?  That certainly is an astounding statement  coming from the anti-DU camp.  Wait till Leuren and Doug hear about this.

"The Abrams 120mm solid uranium 10 lb rounds had very little to do with it. The reason they were used was to distribute poison uraniuim gas and aerosols and kill Iraqis forever."

Gas? Aerosols? Sounds to me like something that would get dispersed pretty fast, far and wide, and like pretty much everything else that gets so dispersed, become pretty much inconsequential. And if the oft cited 350 TONS of DU that was expended in Iraq hit such a scant amount of tank armor, I'm wondering just how all those gasses and aerosols were generated in the first place?  I'm also wondering how all those U.S. friendly fire victims, whose tanks were hit by DU shells, are still managing to survive and thrive, and even have children with two eyes, what with all the deadly gas and everything.

"The US is the most powerful fascist country with the most lethal military in the history of the world."

I'm fascinated that you still choose to live here.  Surely I wouldn't choose to stay in a "fascist" country, if I were free to leave, which I strangely am.  I'd be gettin' out before those fascists wake up and close the gates and put up the fences.

"The US Expeditionary Forces are up to about 1.3 million Iraqis killed. Do you have a problem with that? Get over it. It is what the US does best."

But of course that's just one study. An honest journalist would state that  estimates range from 50,000 to your 1.3 million.  An honest journalist would point out that a large number of the total is Iraqi on Iraqi, or foreign fighter on Iraqi, and that the U.S. soldier is working to stop violence and death -- not leave open the implication that he's is out there gunning down all 1.3 million of these people. 

An honest journalist might even add the perspective that Saddam is estimated to have killed up to 2 million of his fellow Muslims, for no reason other than to preserve his own personal power.  (That would probably be asking too much, even of an honest journalist these days.)

And of course, not even a single one of these deaths -- U.S., Iraqi or otherwise -- was caused by the residue left by those DU weapons that hit hardy any tanks, as we learned earlier.

More often than not, the reason for someone's articles getting censored is not due to some nefarious attempt to muzzle a truth-teller, but simply because his articles are filled with unverifiable, specious and scientifically unsupportable contentions, made while trying to mix science with a political agenda -- a practice which seldom produces reliable reading.

Get over that.

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 411 comments) on Saturday, December 8, 2007 at 3:51:10 AM
 


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Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

DU and birth defects....

"Uranium was named after the Greek god Uranus. For many, that heritage could not have been more appropriate. Uranus sired abnormal children, some with only one eye, and the metal is supposed to do the same. Uranus was castrated, and the metal is alleged to sterilise. Uranus shed blood on the earth, releasing furies; uranium has shed blood, and continues to inspire furious debate. For others, however, the fact that Uranus was a myth is the most important feature, because to them the public understanding of uranium is mired in fable."

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 411 comments) on Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 4:25:03 PM
 

 

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