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January 25, 2008 at 04:19:09

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Calling All Kucinich Supporters: Vote Ron Paul

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Ron Paul is in almost complete agreement with Kucinich's policies on war, the military-industrial complex, and civil liberties. Kucinich himself has said that if he were the nominee he would choose Ron Paul as his running mate. He and Ron Paul work together commonly on the floor of the house of representatives, and often vote together as the only dissenting votes on insidious legislation such as the "Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act". It may be hard for Kucinich supporters to put aside partisanship and register to vote Republican, if only for a month or two, but if you are still committed to supporting an anti-war, pro-peace candidate who has a consistent record of voting against war-funding, then Ron Paul is now your only choice other than Mike Gravel.

Progressives have a difficult choice to make here: we can give in to group-think and vote in the Democratic party primary because when it comes down to it party loyalty is more important than issues; we can bow out of the primary process altogether and start working for the green-party presidential run in 2008; or we can take the time to help the only viable peace candidate, Ron Paul, get some more delegates in our respective states so that he can have some sway in the brokered convention that the Republican party is headed for. Voting for Ron Paul in the primaries doesn't prevent you from voting for the Democratic or Green Party nominee in November. Think of it as an extra chance to dissent and vote for peace before the nation holds its collective nose in November and votes in another corporate candidate.

I am a 22 year old graduate of the University of Chicago, majoring in Philosophy with a minor in Ancient Greek. I have been happily married for 3 and a half years, no kids. I live in Springfield, Oregon where I am currently unemployed. I grew up the son of an evangelical minister but have completely rejected the institution of the church and the existence of God. I consider myself now to be an Atheist with a "spiritual" side. My wife says I'm a pantheist because I love nature so much. I was apathetic about politics for a long time, but the 9/11 truth movement piqued my interest again, and through that I learned about the patriot act, the military commissions act, the privatization of war, the genocide in Iraq, the manipulation of intelligence, and the great extent of voter fraud. I always knew that politicians were corrupt, but I was shocked to learn that it was so bad. Since then I have slowly become a crusader for peace. I think it's important to take our views off the internet and into face to face interactions. I have confronted my parents about the war, and was surprised and happy to learn that they were Ron Paul supporters. I also am actively involved in local peace movements and try to attend at least one action against the war a week. It's amazing how good it feels to hold an Impeach Cheney sign in one hand, and an American flag in the other, in front of rush hour traffic.

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David Brightfarmer

You never have to vote for a second choice

Kucinich is still the ONLY candidate who is right on the issues.

Kucinich is still on the ballot in most states, and one can still caucus for him in caucus states. If he was your candidate yesterday he should still be your candidate today.

You NEVER have to vote for your second choice in a primary, and people who think so have been fooled by the educational system, the media, and the other candidates solicting your vote.

The purpose of a primary is for a rank-and-file voter to tell the party leadership and the press/pundits which candidate best represents that voter's' views. In a primary one should NOT worry about who one's party or another party might or might not nominate six months from now.

When you leave the primary voting place you should be holding your head high, not feel like you've just had a colonoscopy from a used car dealer. The only wasted vote is a vote for someone you don't want to vote for. Voting your second choice is voting for someone you didn't want to vote for. You never have to do that in a primary.

In primaries you vote with your heart. It's the general election where you sometimes have to hold your nose and vote with your stomach, although haven once fallen for the "gotta vote for Kerry to end the war" scam I'll never do that again.

Kucinich had my vote yesterday and he'll have it in my caucus next month.

by David Bright (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Friday, January 25, 2008 at 7:43:52 AM

former Vice-Chair, Libertarian Party of Wisconsin, 2003, 2006-2007Polling Director, Michael Badnarik for President, 2004Polling Director, Aaron Russo for President, 2004Dane County Chair, Ed Thompson for Wisconsin Governor, 2002Chair, Libertarian Party of Dane County, 1998, 2000-2001Member, Libertarian Party, 1990-presentBachelor of Mathematics, University of Wisconsin-Madison, 1986
Rolf Lindgrenformer Vice-Chair, Libertarian Party of Wisconsin, 2003, 2006-2007Polling Director, Michael Badnarik for President, 2004Polling Director, Aaron Russo for President, 2004Dane County Chair, Ed Thompson for Wisconsin Governor, 2002Chair, Libertarian Party of Dane County, 1998, 2000-2001Member, Libertarian Party, 1990-presentBachelor of Mathematics, University of Wisconsin-Madison, 1986

Kucinich is a Weak Leader

Kucinich had hearings set for last October on the put options just before 9/11. He backed out without giving a reason.

How can he be trusted to bring our troops home?

Ron Paul CAN be trusted. He will bring our troops home from all over the world and pardon everyone ever convicted of a non-violent, victimless drug crime.

by Rolf Lindgren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 29 comments) on Friday, January 25, 2008 at 11:38:53 AM

It is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.
Jeanette DoneyIt is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.

I wish I could agree with you

I believe you are following your heart, using your head, and demonstrating the guts it takes to follow your heart for Ron Paul. I admire you for that.

As you pointed out, Ron Paul and Kucinich have simularities, one being peace makers, but they are proposing different paths to PEACE.

Kucinich believes the UN NWO is the way to peace. I think the enlightened among them will join the rEVOLution.

Finally, I was tipped that a Draft Kucinich campaign will begin and it may combine with the Draft Nader campaign as both have MORE simularities than Ron Paul, and could form an Independent SPOIL Ron Paul in the name of PEACE ticket that would SPLIT the PEACE movement.

Kucinich and Nader both believe the UN NWO is the solution.

Ron Paul believes the US Constitution is the solution.

by Jeanette Doney (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 304 comments) on Friday, January 25, 2008 at 8:53:19 AM

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BeyondBeliefsIEEE - retired

An ISOLATIONIST will do What ?

Can you detect the difference between Dennis and Ron ?

Dennis Kucinich wants to REGAIN CONTROL of OUR international Institutions.

Ron Paul want to shut them all down.

Anti-Human

ISOLATATING AMERICA will NOT WITHDRAW our EMPIRE from the FREE WORLD.

It will ONLY WITHDRAW our Newspaper reports on their EVIL DEEDS.

I can say that ''NAFTA is BAD for America and for HUMANITY.'' .

But WHAT is it that is BAD about it ?

WHY are HUMAN BEINGS NOT BENEFITING from NAFTA ?

WHO IS USING NAFTA and STEALING the foreign and domestic BENEFITS of it's ORIGINALLY INTENDED PURPOSE ?

WITHOUT the OVERSIGHT by OUR Government and by OUR Justice Deparment, THE MISUSE is what is BAD about NAFTA.

FREE TRADE is GOOD, but can I SELL YOUR CHILDREN for GOLD ?

Get rid of the CRIMINALS. Jail them. Hang them. Burry them.

Use NAFTA to BENEFIT PEOPLE and NOT to make a FEW CRIMINAL CEO's FILTHY RICH at the EXPENSE of HUMAN LIFE.

JUSTICE is NOT A WORD. JUSTICE is an ACTION.

When CRIMINALS are FREE to DO ANYTHING then THEY WILL WIN EVERY TIME, and NO GOOD will be ever done by ANY INSTITUTION that we Create.

If we don't ACTIVELY persue JUSTICE then NOTHING GOOD will be done ANYWHERE.

If we don't ACTIVELY persue JUSTICE then NO Organization will do GOOD. (See: Washington )

If we don't ACTIVELY persue JUSTICE then WE don't deserve JUSTICE.

Remove the deregulated chemical , biological, military EMPIRE from OUR Washington and OUR organizations can return to doing GOOD.

by BeyondBeliefs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, January 25, 2008 at 5:35:43 PM

14 years us navy 77-92
okcitykid14 years us navy 77-92

Ron Paul Against The Machine

Now that Kucinich has dropped out of the race there is only one candidate who wants to bring our troops home from Iraq yesterday and voted no on war funding, that is Ron Paul. So that means that everybody who wants peace and was voting for Kucinich will now vote for Ron Paul. For those who will say, “I will never vote for a Republican.” Can you explain why Kucinich had this to say about Ron Paul?

"I'm thinking about Ron Paul" as a running mate, Kucinich told a crowd of about 70 supporters at a house party here, one of numerous stops throughout New Hampshire over the Thanksgiving weekend. A Kucinich-Paul administration could bring people together "to balance the energies in this country," Kucinich said.

I watched the video clip and even posted it on my blog, Kucinich further explained that the Eagle that represents our country has both a right and left wing.

Ok, maybe you don’t agree with everything Kucinich says, well you know what, I don’t agree with everything Ron Paul says.

Someone kindly explained to me that Ron Paul is no Pacifist, well you know what, none of the presidential candidates are, but only one of them wants the troops to come home yesterday, and not only from Iraq, but from AROUND the world, and never voted to fund the war. Like all the other countries in the world who’s soldiers protect only their homeland, Ron Paul (who is supposed be for big business) believes that it is unconstitutional for our troops to be protecting oil interests. That’s the job of the oil companies, not the U.S. Government. So what does Ron Paul get for being the only presidential candidate to make a stand for the soldiers and ask them not to do more than their oath to duty. Nothing, and he’s lucky if he doesn’t get assassinated. Billions in profits could be lost. That could easily explain why when Ron Paul came in second in Nevada, all the major news channels failed to mention even his name. And now in Louisiana where he is in second and possibly in first place if the GOP will count all the votes who are also trying to cheat him out of delegates.

Ok so, Ron Paul thinks abortion is wrong and also unconstitutional, BUT believes the states should decide, yet strangely received an endorsement from Roe. Ok, I think Roe is wrong and Ron Paul, but do I believe that more soldiers should die so that women can easily have abortions, no! that’s nuts. Should our foreign policy that fans the flames of terrorism around the world continue so that women can continue to easily have abortions, no! Since 1991 to today over 2 million Iraqis have died because of our actions and as Ron Paul tries to explain, is it no wonder that 9/11 occurred, and worse to come if we continue. But should we let this continue so that women can easily have abortions. What do you support? Is it peace, and ask yourself, are you a Pacifist?

Concerning Gays, Lesbians and marriage, Ron Paul doesn’t want to run our lives and believes in liberty and freedom and wishes to end the drug war. America who imprisons more people than any other country in the world should be ashamed to call itself the land of the free with over 2 million in prison, not including the prisoners we now keep in jails around the world.

December first, 2006 Washington Post: “A record 7 million people -- one in every 32 U.S. adults -- were behind bars, on probation or on parole by the end of last year, a Justice Department report released yesterday shows. Of those, 2.2 million were in prison or jail, an increase of 2.7 percent over the previous year, according to the report.”

Ron Paul does not believe in a Welfare State, he does promise to take care of the poor. The Government will be more equipped to take care of the poor once it ends our war in Iraq and closes all of our bases around the world where we don’t belong, but here’s a twist. With a more balanced budget the value of the dollar increases, the cost of living goes down and our wages are worth more, we will have fewer welfare recipients. For example, my mother had a good paying job but it wasn’t enough against inflation to support all five of us kids by herself. If Ron Paul was president my mother wouldn’t have been on welfare, her paycheck would have been enough to support us.

There may be a hundred things you might disagree with Ron Paul on, but it doesn’t matter, because it’s the will of the people, not the executive branch that rules in Ron Paul’s America based on the constitution.

So rock on Ron Paul
Power to the people
And may you live out your life in peace and prosperity
Amen to that man

Roger The Okcitykid
and the Peaceful Vet (when I'm not arguing with someone)

by okcitykid (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, January 25, 2008 at 10:03:39 PM

Libertarian commentator/analyst and talk show host. Deep liberal roots flowering into a pretty good understanding of the world as it truly is. Guitarist/musician; son of a government worker; black sheep-of-the-family type guy who survived his wild, stupid youthful days to become humbler and wiser, married to a razor-sharp woman also of deep liberal roots, who catches most mistakes in my written work; father of 3, cares deeply about people, but none of this matters really.

The point ...

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Tom deSablaLibertarian commentator/analyst and talk show host. Deep liberal roots flowering into a pretty good understanding of the world as it truly is. Guitarist/musician; son of a government worker; black sheep-of-the-family type guy who survived his wild, stupid youthful days to become humbler and wiser, married to a razor-sharp woman also of deep liberal roots, who catches most mistakes in my written work; father of 3, cares deeply about people, but none of this matters really.

The point ...

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Isolationism

"Isolationist"?

That is the exact smear that the neocons use on Ron Paul.

There are so many similarities between the left and right when it comes to Paul.

Both call him isolationist, both try to marginalize him.

NY Times kept him off the voter guide till Fred quit; and Fox kept him out of one debate and cut his best answer from the next one.

Hmmmmm.

I'll tell you this: if what we've been doing for the last 60 years, including bloody U.N. sponsored wars in Korea and Iraq, is "engagement" - and if Ron Paul, by virtue of trying to change that and bring our troops home, is somehow an "isolationist" - then I'm an "isolationist" too.

Power in this world does not need to be further centralized into international institutions; that is the path of tyranny. Instead, power desperately needs to be decentralized and returned to the individual people from whence it came, so they can make their own decisions for themselves again.

by Tom deSabla (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 50 comments) on Friday, January 25, 2008 at 11:17:13 PM