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May 21, 2008 at 06:20:12

Headlined on 5/21/08:
Gays, God, and Government: Self-righteousness in the State Capitols

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 by Walter Brasch 

            The mantra of almost all conservatives—it makes no difference what political party they belong to—is to keep government out of their lives. But, they don’t mind government interference when it plays to their biases and bigotry.

 

            For example, it’s perfectly acceptable for the government to enter one’s bedroom if the purpose is to ban homosexual activity and—horrors!—gay marriage. In Pennsylvania, political conservatives and religious fundamentalists thought the existing state law against same-sex marriage was vulnerable to a constitutional challenge, and wanted something more permanent—a constitutional amendment to “preserve” the sanctity of marriage.

 

            Having heard the call—and an opportunity to score with his constituents— State Sen. John Gordner unleashed his horse and charged into battle, thrusting his sword of righteousness into every hole that could allow for same-sex marriage. The proposed amendment sailed through the judiciary and appropriations committees, of which Gordner is a member, and onto the Senate floor where the Republican-dominated Senate was expected to pass it and forever preserve what they believe is the sanctity of marriage.

 

            “We do not want to take away any existing rights that gay and lesbian partners have,” said the senator from Pennsylvania’s rural northeast. Nonsense, said Sen. Vincent Fumo of Philadelphia. “When you enter this language into the Constitution, you’re begging to overthrow Devlin and everything else,” said Fumo. Devlin v. Philadelphia assured that same-sex rights were permissible as long as there was nothing to create a “functional equivalent of marriage.” A constitutional amendment could eliminate all benefits, Fumo pointed out. With tongue-in-cheek reasoning, Fumo thrust home his concern by suggesting an amendment to the proposed amendment. If same-sex marriage destroys the institution of marriage, why not ban all divorce, he suggested.

 

            As a windstorm of protests emerged, the senators ran for the shelter of political expediency. Since the state’s House of Representatives probably wouldn’t waste its time on such an outrageous display of public pandering, the Senate tabled the bill and blamed the House. This is the political “two-step.” The senators could continue to spout moral and religious bigotry while blaming some else for the problem.

 

            A week after the Pennsylvania Senate’s blunderbusses blew up in their face, California became the second state, after Massachusetts, to throw out a state law against same-sex marriage. California’s law was passed in 2000 by 61 percent of the voters.

 

            In an overview of the issue, Chief Justice Ronald M. George, a Republican, noted, “[An] individual’s capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation.” In his majority opinion, George cited a 1948 California case that overturned a law that banned interracial marriage. “An individual's sexual orientation—like a person’s race or gender— does not constitute a legitimate basis upon which to deny or withhold legal rights,” he wrote.

 

            This is not an activist/liberal court that conservatives so frequently blame for what they see as all of the nation’s problems. “The decision was a bold surprise from a moderately conservative, Republican-dominated court that legal scholars have long dubbed ‘cautious,’” noted the Los Angeles Times.

 

            The religious right and conservative movements aren’t bending over and taking their defeats. They’re gathering signatures to place onto the November ballot a constitutional amendment to forbid same-sex marriage. That amendment would be more powerful than any state law. Ironically, such a constitutional amendment may be unconstitutional.

             Twenty-six states have laws that ban same-sex marriage, and Florida already has a proposed constitutional amendment ready for the November election. For conservatives, apparently, there isn’t enough governmental intrusion when it comes to continuing bigotry.              [Walter Brasch is professor of journalism at Bloomsburg University and president of the Pennsylvania Press Club. His latest book is Sinking the Ship of State: The Presidency of George W. Bush, available through amazon.com. You may contact Brasch at brasch@bloomu.edu or through his website at: www.walterbrasch.com.]   

 

Walter Brasch is an award-winning journalist and university professor. His current books are America's Unpatriotic Acts: The Federal Government's Violation of Constitutional and Civil Rights, and 'Unacceptable': The Federal response to Hurricane Katrina, both available at amazon.com, borders.com and most major on-line bookstores.

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A conservative 33 year old man from NJ.
LosferA conservative 33 year old man from NJ.

More Lies from the 'After the Ball' Crowd.

Considering that new laws, terms, and definitions need to be created in order to facilitate gay marriage, is not gay marriage not keeping government out of marriage but instead a government intrusion into what marriage has been since the dawn of time over and above the will of the majority of people liberal and conservative alike?  Considering it is forced upon a resistant populace, it is not an aggressive government action?  And finally, this was never an equal rights issue.  I had no more right to marry a man than a gay man and so our rights were equal.  No one has some general right to "marry whom they love."  I, nor anyone else, can marry someone who is already married, someone who is related by blood, someone who is underrage, etc and so on.

by Losfer (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 9:44:52 AM
 


Voluntarily retired California county elected official.
Shirley BianchiVoluntarily retired California county elected official.

gay marriage

If the churches want to limit marriages to those between heterosexual couples, that is their right.  It is not their right to attempt to force their religious beliefs on the population as a whole.  Further, it is my opinion that the churches that oppose gay marriage, including my own, will soon end up with a couple dozens eggs on their individual faces when it is proven that people are born with their sexual orientation.  They do not choose it.  As one lesbian woman told me, "Who would choose this?"

by Shirley Bianchi (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 90 comments) on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 11:00:59 AM
 


A conservative 33 year old man from NJ.
LosferA conservative 33 year old man from NJ.

Born that way?

Then please explain the ones who go back and forth such as Ellen Degeneres's ex?  Proof has been the elusive holy grail for years and still it is not anywhere to be found.  As for marriage, marriage IS a religious institution coopted by the state into a civil one so they can keep track of families.  Oh and if homosexuality is morally acceptable because one is born that way then what abotu pedophiles?  There is even more evidence to support their devience to be innate and unmovable.

by Losfer (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 11:51:28 AM
 


electronic technician, truth seeker
Bob Gormleyelectronic technician, truth seeker

Born that Way?

The debate is still on.

Some gays claim to be born that way, maybe.

Others turn gay because of an emotional/traumatic experience, have seen this in real life.

Some choose to be gay, naturally heterosexual, but feel the need to experience new things.

Some say an early unwanted homosexual experience as a child can be the

cause of adulthood homosexuality.

Last but not least, one that addresses homosexuality as a depraved spiritual condition.

It seems that the cause of homosexuality is not simple. Could be the result

of one factor or possibly a combination of factors.

    

 

by Bob Gormley (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 911 comments) on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 1:05:46 PM
 


I grew up in Minneapolis, Minnesota and thought everyone else in the world was liberal too. I started university in Colorado and decided I liked skiing much more than classes. I moved to Lake Tahoe to teach ski lessons for a year and ended up back in Minneapolis where I came out at 23. I went back to school at the U of M, spent a year studying in Milan, Italy, and graduated with an English Degree in '97. In '99 I moved to New York to work in publishing. I live in downtown Brooklyn and work...

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ingiroI grew up in Minneapolis, Minnesota and thought everyone else in the world was liberal too. I started university in Colorado and decided I liked skiing much more than classes. I moved to Lake Tahoe to teach ski lessons for a year and ended up back in Minneapolis where I came out at 23. I went back to school at the U of M, spent a year studying in Milan, Italy, and graduated with an English Degree in '97. In '99 I moved to New York to work in publishing. I live in downtown Brooklyn and work...

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Losfer=Loser

You are a homophobic bigot.

Shirley has it right...marriage serves certain civil functions and there should be equal access to those rights and responsibilities and that can and should be separated from the religious aspects.  I married my long-term partner in Canada last month and it was inspiring and a joy to be treated equally.  My husband is from Europe and I have no right to sponsor him for a greencard.  He will have to leave next year when his work visa expires. Minority groups need protection from the majority because many of them, like Losfer, are prejudiced, hateful people. Thankfully, things are beginning to change and soon it will be legal in every state in this country.

 

by ingiro (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 45 comments) on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 2:21:21 PM
 


A conservative 33 year old man from NJ.
LosferA conservative 33 year old man from NJ.

Interesting

You headling your comment with an insult and use disparaging words throughout your comment only to call me hateful?  Your hypocracy is amazing.  I am not homophobic.  I just believe in the integrity of an institution that does not include men/men or women/women situations.  You claim to be a minority, that is an insult to true minorities who are as they are by genetics not by choice.  You will think of replying that you are genetically homosexual, well then, please provide your proof.  "After the Ball" indicated a long time ago that your game plan was to consitently claim proof until people started believing it even though it is likely untrue.  You say to keep the government out of your bedroom.  Fine, I agree.  Your bedroom is your bedroom but please keep your bedroom out of our lives. 

by Losfer (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 4:10:18 PM
 


I grew up in Minneapolis, Minnesota and thought everyone else in the world was liberal too. I started university in Colorado and decided I liked skiing much more than classes. I moved to Lake Tahoe to teach ski lessons for a year and ended up back in Minneapolis where I came out at 23. I went back to school at the U of M, spent a year studying in Milan, Italy, and graduated with an English Degree in '97. In '99 I moved to New York to work in publishing. I live in downtown Brooklyn and work...

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ingiroI grew up in Minneapolis, Minnesota and thought everyone else in the world was liberal too. I started university in Colorado and decided I liked skiing much more than classes. I moved to Lake Tahoe to teach ski lessons for a year and ended up back in Minneapolis where I came out at 23. I went back to school at the U of M, spent a year studying in Milan, Italy, and graduated with an English Degree in '97. In '99 I moved to New York to work in publishing. I live in downtown Brooklyn and work...

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You are so very wrong!

Genetics do not make minorities...majorities do.  

And you are a homophobic bigot.

You wrote " I just believe in the integrity of an institution that does not include men/men or women/women situations."

That is the same type of argument that was used to prevent interracial marriage in the 60's.  It was bogus then and it is bogus now. 

Lastly, whether being gay is genetic or not has nothing to do with denying people civil rights.   

 

 

by ingiro (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 45 comments) on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 4:51:21 PM
 


A conservative 33 year old man from NJ.
LosferA conservative 33 year old man from NJ.

civil rights?

Please, pray tell, what civil rights that I have and you do not have are violated by disallowing same sex marriage?  In the majority of America, I lack the same right to marry a member of the same sex as you do.  Sure you will bring up the "right to marry whom I love" but that argument is also a failure.  No one has a right to marry whom they love if that love is part of a forbidden class to marry.  I can not marry my sister no matter how much I might love her.  I can not marry a married woman no matter how much I loved her. I can not marry someone who does not want to marry me no matter how much I love her etc and so on. You are creating a rights issue where none exists and use the tactic (instead of using any kind of actual logical argument) of insulting and attempting to have any opposing viewpoint ostracized.  You do that because you can not win.  Oh, and you can not be a minority by choice.  The civil rights movement existed to protect those who were being prejudiced against simply by the basis of what race they were born into.  A lifestyle choice and a set a values that you choose is not only not covered under racism but it a perfectly legitimate attacking point.  You attack me for my values by the names you call me but yet say that you can not judge someone by the values they choose to live by, are you a hypocrite or just too weak to handle the attack?

by Losfer (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Thursday, May 22, 2008 at 5:23:10 AM
 

 

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