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February 5, 2007 at 18:51:05

BRZEZINSKI CLEARLY SEES IRAQ REALITY / NO ONE LISTENS

by Allen L Roland     Page 1 of 3 page(s)

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Zbigniew Brzezinski keeps reminding Congress that we are an occupying force within a sovereign state but very few, if any, want to deal with the moral implications of this illegal action: Allen L Roland

Zbigniew Brzezinski has always been one of my favorite thinkers . He has seen it all and is more than willing to share his truth ~ which is always extremely insightful and accurate.



Here is Zbig at his best in May of 2004 demanding that we face reality in Iraq ; " America's Iraq policy requires a fundamental strategic reappraisal. The present policy - justified by falsehoods, pursued with unilateral arrogance, blinded by self-delusion, and stained by sadistic excesses - cannot be corrected with a few hasty palliatives. The remedy must be international in character; political, rather than military, in substance; and regional, rather than simply Iraqi, in scope."

Now, in 2007, Brzezinski continues to call the Iraq war and occupation a historic, strategic and moral calamity; " Undertaken under false assumptions, it is undermining America's global legitimacy. Its collateral civilian casualties as well as some abuses are tarnishing America's moral credentials. Driven by Manichean impulses and imperial hubris, it is intensifying regional instability. "

When are we going to listen to this articulate and extremely intelligent voice of conscience who has seen it all before.

Here is his testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations committee on February 1st ~ required reading for all Americans.

Allen L Roland
http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2007/02/05.html


SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITEE TESTIMONY -- ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI

February 1, 2007
http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/258/52/

Mr. Chairman:

Your hearings come at a critical juncture in the U.S. war of choice in Iraq, and I commend you and Senator Lugar for scheduling them.

It is time for the White House to come to terms with two central realities:

1. The war in Iraq is a historic, strategic, and moral calamity. Undertaken under false assumptions, it is undermining America's global legitimacy. Its collateral civilian casualties as well as some abuses are tarnishing America's moral credentials. Driven by Manichean impulses and imperial hubris, it is intensifying regional instability.

2. Only a political strategy that is historically relevant rather than reminiscent of colonial tutelage can provide the needed framework for a tolerable resolution of both the war in Iraq and the intensifying regional tensions.

If the United States continues to be bogged down in a protracted bloody involvement in Iraq, the final destination on this downhill track is likely to be a head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam at large.

A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks; followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure; then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S. blamed on Iran; culminating in a "defensive" U.S. military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

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Richard Mynick is a US citizen who, despite the best efforts of the corporate media, noticed something disturbing about how the 2000 election was decided, & felt it augured poorly for democracy.
Richard MynickRichard Mynick is a US citizen who, despite the best efforts of the corporate media, noticed something disturbing about how the 2000 election was decided, & felt it augured poorly for democracy.

No one should have any illusions about Zbig, but this speech

his deserved plenty of attention -- and the fact that it received virtually none is in itself highly noteworthy.

Here are 2 links to articles written by someone who was present when Brzezinksi gave his testimony to the committee in DC last week. The first is an astute analysis of the testimony's significance; the second, an explanation of why the mainstream media basically refused to acknowledge that the speech ever happened.

A political bombshell from Zbigniew Brzezinski

Why is the US press silent on Brzezinski's warnings of war against Iran?

by Richard Mynick (2 articles, 3 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 1212 comments) on Monday, February 5, 2007 at 7:33:31 PM
 


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Brzezinski and Iran

Brzezinski may have his own problems with Iran?

click here

by billp37 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 38 comments) on Monday, February 5, 2007 at 9:14:41 PM
 


I am an architect living and working in London,England.
BahrameradI am an architect living and working in London,England.

BRZEZINSKI CLEARLY SEES IRAQ REALITY / NO ONE LISTENS

I am really sorry for you. You seem to have missed out on the last 40 years of historical truth. Carter and ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI with their Green Islamic Band that they propagated and their overthrowing of the SHAH of Iran have caused untold and massive damage to the US and the world. And you are their supporter. SHAM ON YOU. GO READ AND EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE WRITING AND SUPPORTING THEIR IDEA'S. APPEASING THE MULLAH FASCIST MAFIAS IS NOT THE ANSWER. THEY ARE HERE ONLY TO DESTROY THE FREE WORLD AND THE US AND ITS CULTURE. you are an idiot if you do not know this. Print this if you dare.http://bahrameradblg.blogspot.com/
Bahramerad • 2/6/07; 1:31:09 AM #

by Bahramerad (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 25 comments) on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 11:38:16 AM
 


A writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Zbig is an SOB but he knows

his SOBs very well indeed. He knows how they play and what they use because he is an 'expert'. He also is a pragmatist, thus does not want to die himself or his children to be killed.

Now, I want to mention one of the comments above from 'bahramerad' which rants about mullahs and so forth.
It just tells us all that there are people in this country who would love nothing more but to use our armed forces to solve their own private grudges. I think, bTW that all the White House cabal consists of such people like that commenter, a little more or a little less.

Well, here we are and the choice is clear. So clear it is that even Zbig crawled out of his den to shout. As I said, he knows his SOBs.

by Mark Sashine (53 articles, 19 quicklinks, 250 diaries, 3574 comments) on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 12:17:18 PM
 


Eliot Gould , 52, is currently active in New Mexico's political scene. A native of Chicago,and active in Chicago politics,Gould studied the Presidency at Center for the Study of the Presidency, with extensive writings upon Lincoln and Wilson.
Eliot GouldEliot Gould , 52, is currently active in New Mexico's political scene. A native of Chicago,and active in Chicago politics,Gould studied the Presidency at Center for the Study of the Presidency, with extensive writings upon Lincoln and Wilson.

Brzezinski Points were Clear

Former National Security Advisor Brzezinski's points were clear and concise in statement. And on this issue the concepts should be well taken. Regrettably, they are ignored or subject to harsh criticism based based on the standards which deal not with the Iraqi situation and the now rising confrontational politics with Iran.

by Eliot Gould (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 21 diaries, 134 comments) on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 2:51:14 PM
 


Musician and writer, who has lived and worked on all the continents and whose articles on media have been published in China, Italy, England and the US, and now resides in New York City.
Jay JansonMusician and writer, who has lived and worked on all the continents and whose articles on media have been published in China, Italy, England and the US, and now resides in New York City.

Alan, Brzezinski had Carter fund Afghan Fundamentalists befo

Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National
Security Adviser in 'Le Nouvel Observateur' (France), Jan 15-21,
1998, p. 76 on what role did the U.S. government play in the creation
of Islamist terrorism? In that regard, Brzezinski's assertion that
the U.S. provoked Soviet actions and that Islamism was deliberately
fostered is backed up by sources on all sides of the Afghan issue.

Here's the interview.

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his
memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services
began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet
intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser
to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is
that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA
aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the
Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality,
secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was
July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for
secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But
perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to
provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but
we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that
they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United
States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was
a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had
the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want
me to regret it? Q: And neither do you regret having supported the
Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future
terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or
the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the
liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated:
Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense!
____________________
In the name of a center for sanity,
jay janson

by Jay Janson (83 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 93 comments) on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 8:56:27 PM
 


Musician and writer, who has lived and worked on all the continents and whose articles on media have been published in China, Italy, England and the US, and now resides in New York City.
Jay JansonMusician and writer, who has lived and worked on all the continents and whose articles on media have been published in China, Italy, England and the US, and now resides in New York City.

Any article on your 'Zbig' ought to contain his brag re suck

Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National
Security Adviser in 'Le Nouvel Observateur' (France), Jan 15-21,
1998, p. 76 on what role did the U.S. government play in the creation
of Islamist terrorism? In that regard, Brzezinski's assertion that
the U.S. provoked Soviet actions and that Islamism was deliberately
fostered is backed up by sources on all sides of the Afghan issue.

Here's the interview.

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his
memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services
began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet
intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser
to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is
that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA
aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the
Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality,
secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was
July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for
secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But
perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to
provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but
we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that
they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United
States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was
a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had
the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want
me to regret it? Q: And neither do you regret having supported the
Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future
terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or
the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the
liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated:
Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense!
____________________
In the name of a center for sanity,
jay janson

by Jay Janson (83 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 93 comments) on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 9:04:27 PM
 


A writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

to see more of bio, click on member name

As I said,

Zbig was and is an SOB. He is also a bragging SOB because in reality he and his 'strategy' had nothing to do with the Soviet Invasion. The invasion was an 'internal doing' of the group of the elite powermongers in the Soviet govt at that time to help their criminal bosses to get control over the opium fields in Afghanistan and also over the opium trail because it became more important since the 'Gpolden Triangle' countries like Indonesia, Thailand and others in that region had imposed a death penalty for couriers of narcotics. The criminal bosses in Russia wanted to ' wet their beaks' and as a matter of fact, NOW OUR CRIMINAL BOSSES do the same thing in Afgahnistan. Zbig is an SOB.
But he knows his people and as such he knows when the shit hits the fan. As usual, he does not change and while telling the truth or lying he still remains an SOB first and foremost. What do we expect?

by Mark Sashine (53 articles, 19 quicklinks, 250 diaries, 3574 comments) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 at 7:53:15 AM
 

 

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