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April 15, 2008 at 11:36:03

Headlined on 4/15/08:
FBI Email Says Bush Signed Exec Order Authorizing Harsh Interrogation Methods

by Jason Leopold     Page 1 of 2 page(s)

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President George W. Bush’s comment to ABC News – that he approved discussions that his top aides held about harsh interrogation techniques – adds credence to claims from senior FBI agents in Iraq in 2004 that Bush had signed an Executive Order approving the use of military dogs, sleep deprivation and other tactics to intimidate Iraqi detainees.

When the American Civil Liberties Union released the FBI e-mail in December 2004 – after obtaining it through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit – the White House emphatically denied that any such presidential Executive Order existed, calling the unnamed FBI official who wrote the e-mail “mistaken.”

President Bush and his representatives also have denied repeatedly that the administration condones “torture,” although senior administration officials have acknowledged subjecting “high-value” terror suspects to aggressive interrogation techniques, including the “waterboarding” – or simulated drowning – of three al-Qaeda detainees.

But the emerging public evidence suggests that Bush’s denials about “torture” amount to a semantic argument, with the administration applying a narrow definition that contradicts widely accepted standards contained in international law, including Geneva and other human rights conventions.

The FBI e-mail – dated May 22, 2004 – followed disclosures about abuse of Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib prison and sought guidance on whether FBI agents in Iraq were obligated to report the U.S. military’s harsh interrogation of inmates when that treatment violated FBI standards but fit within the guidelines of a presidential Executive Order.

According to the e-mail, Bush’s Executive Order authorized interrogators to use military dogs, “stress positions,” sleep “management,” loud music and “sensory deprivation through the use of hoods, etc.” to extract information from detainees in Iraq.

The FBI e-mail was put into a new light by news reports last week that senior White House officials – including Vice President Dick Cheney and then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice – did meet secretly to discuss specific interrogation methods that could be used against detainees.

“The most senior Bush administration officials repeatedly discussed and approved specific details of exactly how high-value al-Qaeda suspects would be interrogated by the CIA,” ABC News reported, citing unnamed sources.

“The high-level discussions about these ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ were so detailed, these sources said, some of the interrogation sessions were almost choreographed – down to the number of times CIA agents could use a specific tactic.

“These top advisers signed off on how the CIA would interrogate top al-Qaeda suspects – whether they would be slapped, pushed, deprived of sleep or subjected to simulated drowning, called waterboarding, sources told ABC News.”

On Friday, President Bush confirmed the report, stating matter-of-factly: “I'm aware our national security team met on this issue. And I approved."

FBI E-Mail

The May 2004 FBI e-mail stated that the FBI interrogation team in Iraq understood that despite revisions in the Executive Order that occurred after the furor over the Abu Ghraib abuses, the presidential sanctioning of harsh interrogation tactics had not been rescinded.

"I have been told that all interrogation techniques previously authorized by the Executive Order are still on the table but that certain techniques can only be used if very high-level authority is granted,” the author of the FBI e-mail said.

“We have also instructed our personnel not to participate in interrogations by military personnel which might include techniques authorized by Executive Order but beyond the bounds of FBI practices.''

One month after the e-mail was sent to FBI counterterrorism officials in Washington, then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales held a news conference in an attempt to contain the fallout from the Abu Ghraib scandal.

Gonzales told reporters that the abuses, which included sexual humiliation of Iraqi men, were isolated to some rogue U.S. soldiers who acted on their own and not as result of orders being handed down from high-level officials inside the Bush administration.

“The President has not directed the use of specific interrogation techniques,” Gonzales said on June 22, 2004. “There has been no presidential determination necessity or self-defense that would allow conduct that constitutes torture.

“There has been no presidential determination that circumstances warrant the use of torture to protect the mass security of the United States.”

Prior to the news conference, the White House selectively declassified and released documents to reporters, including one dated Feb. 7, 2002, and signed by President Bush, that cited the Geneva Convention’s rules about humane treatment of prisoners during conflicts.

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Jason Leopold is editor of the online investigative news magazine The Public Record, http://www.pubrecord.org, and the author of the National Bestseller, "News Junkie," a memoir. Visit www.newsjunkiebook.com for a preview. He is also a two-time winner of the Project Censored award, most recently, in 2007, for an investigative story related to Halliburton's work in Iran. He was recently named the recipient of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation's Thomas Jefferson Award for a series of stories he wrote that exposed how soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have been pressured to accept fundamentalist Christianity.

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Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolvee.com
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolvee.com

So, in light of this Conyers will assuredly ...

put his tail between his legs, roll-over and play dead.

This country is gone. If we existed another 1,000 years we couldn't get the stench of this current so-called government off.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1419 comments) on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 2:38:07 PM
 


'The people are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.' Thomas Jefferson 1787
Munich'The people are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.' Thomas Jefferson 1787

Re: FBI Email Says Bush Signed Exec Order

Excellent reporting as usual Mr. Leopold.


Unfortunately I don't see anyone who is going to hold both Bush and Cheney, these "in your face" treasonous bastards accountable. No one! The only person who seems to being feeling the wrath from this pernicious cabal's torture tactics is former Department of Justice deputy John Yoo at UC Berkeley http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/12/8245/

If you believe Representatives Conyers' and Pelosi have any intentions of putting Impeachment back upon the table where it dam well belongs, you'd better think again! Meanwhile, these despots will continue with their obfuscating and prevaricating, impervious to the rule of law which the Founders' worked long and hard to enact. 

Keep in mind that both Bush and Cheney aren't yet finished with the PNAC's abhorrent wet dream of Middle East hegemony, January 09' is still a long way off. What is most troubling is knowing that the vast majority of credulous American's who have been dumbed down by this complicit corpstream media, don't realize that Bush could very well decide to take his new directive out for a test drive, canceling the November 08' elections. Sadly, this might be the ultimate plan, then later anointing bomb bomb, McCain as president?
Who know's what will transpire?

by Munich (0 articles, 66 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 828 comments) on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 5:40:32 PM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolvee.com
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolvee.com

Spot on ...

It's like watching a bad horror film, over and over again, watching these dregs work their insidious schemes. Only the theater is empty except for a few that are sitting there with mouths open, eyes wide, unable to move not believing what they're seeing.

Anyone that has read PNAC, Statement of Principles, is watching everything on their wish list come to pass.

Obtain power by any means necessary - check!

Immediately and relentlessly put plans for world domination into play and ruthlessly destroy anyone or thing that gets in the way - check!

These guys are gangsters on steroids. Even Al Capone was well liked by the general public, these s.o.b.'s don't even pretend to hide their disdain, cheney's "So?", bush's "Yeah, I know about it and approved", is just one bitch-slap after another, I'm surprised bush didn't flip the crowd "the bird" when they booed him as he walked out to throw the first pitch of the baseball season, or more to his level garb his crotch. And it's been like this for 7+ years, one body blow after another.

And no one is paying attention! They've all left the theater thinking that they'll be able to walk back in January 09' and they'll be a new movie. Only this one will be a slice-of-life, feel good movie on how people struggle to regain prosperity after having suffered terrible loses. Only they're in for a big surprise.

The theater might not even be there, and if it is it will be owned by the same guys who brought us the horror movie everyone walked out on and quit paying attention to 8 years ago. And once you enter they'll be some other changes - you won't be able to leave this time.

bush just made the statement preparing us for the next sequel with his, "Of course they'll be another big terrorist attack on American soil - and many Americans will die,". Another "false-flag" attack is all that is needed to biring the unwashed masses back in line. Don't think about the fact that he's admitting that for all his so-called efforts to "protect American lives" that he's going to take the blame when it happens - hell no! He told us it was going to happen - it's our fault now if it does.

But now they're setting us up for the big one. This is my spin and these cretins haven't disappointed me yet (and God how I wish they would).

They'll be an attack. Bigger than 9/11. Alten's Shell Game is probably truer than most want to think. It will be blamed on Iran. bush will nuke Iran. What will happen geopolitical, I don't know. Not total nuclear war, although that might be just wishful thinking, and if that happens everything's a moot point anyway, but, I believe bush will use the chaos from collapsing economy, food riots, and repercussions from the attack to declare Marshall Law. The election will go off on time because they'll want to keep an illusion of legitimacy, but it will so tainted as not to matter and it's "war-hero" McInsane by a Diebold public hair because we can't have no wimpy peace guy or women in a "time of all-out war"!

See ya in the FEMA camp.

 

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1419 comments) on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 7:39:37 PM
 


A political junky from childhood cut my teeth on vietnam era protests.Have lived in Bucks county all my life.My favaorite saying" Good ani't cheap and cheap ain't good,never has been never will be"
tjbA political junky from childhood cut my teeth on vietnam era protests.Have lived in Bucks county all my life.My favaorite saying" Good ani't cheap and cheap ain't good,never has been never will be"

Water boarding

Please stop it! It's not water boarding like alternative surf boarding,it's partial drowning or attempted murder. The president has admitted to engaging in war crimes,though I could see these creeps claiming because there was no declaration of war ergo no war crimes could be committed, and he must be removed because of the Bush-Saudi cancer that is now so visible.

by tjb (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 212 comments) on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 at 7:55:51 AM
 


I guess put simply this quote says a lot:
"I'm an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge." - Jordan Maxwell.

Mike MI guess put simply this quote says a lot:
"I'm an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge." - Jordan Maxwell.

re

There's really not much we can do Mr. M, been trying to explain to ppl for the longest time.

by Mike M (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments) on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 at 9:03:47 AM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolvee.com
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. For those wishing to view my work you can see my latest at: nolvee.com

The Hell There Isn't!

Torture is illegal. Attempting to make torture legal is illegal.

To say there's not much we can do doesn't mean you do nothing. Its a defeatist attitude. Even if there isn't much you can do that's the time you should double your efforts. Call all your representatives every day - several times a day. Find out if there's a political action group you can join near you and get a group to visit your reps and demand they act! Call, email your friends, write letters to the editor, sign petitions, tell strangers, place a sign in your window. DO SOMETHING!

To start there's a petition on the ACLU site you can sign demanding a SP investigate torture. Go from there - Get MAD!

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1419 comments) on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 at 10:10:43 AM
 

 

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