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In part one of this article series I brought up the subject as to wither extraterrestrials were fighting in space and even occasionally in our atmosphere. I had heard about this from contactee friends and when I heard about witness testimony from Indiana I decided to stick my neck out and do an article. As usual I take some heat for going out on a limb without a pile of solid evidence to back up my case. What folks need to know is that over the years I have become quite good at gathering information through a tried and true investigative technique. It's called shake the tree and see what falls out. The Open Minds Forum opened up a thread called War in Space and as I had hoped more very interesting cases were posted to the thread. The following case I found on the OM thread from Kelowna , British Columbia region on July 2, 2007. Numerous eyewitnesses in different parts of Kelowna saw a cylinder shaped craft, with what looked like fins on it, and on fire, ripped down through the sky and finally hitting the water on Okanagan Lake , British Columbia . The sound was incredibly loud and like a deep bass "womp, womp, womp" sound as it came down. The same object then reappeared from where it hit the lake, rose up and then sat and hovered in the sky. Meanwhile a cone or "possible" triangular shaped craft was stationary a short distance away from the cylinder shaped craft. What took place next dumbfounded all of the people who had watched the event unfold, the two objects started reacting to one another, and the best description given from the witnesses was like looking at tracer fire from automatic weapons, or in other words it was like the two UFOs were shooting at one another. After a short time of exchanging what looked like the two craft were firing on one another, a loud bang was heard and the cone shaped craft was nowhere to be seen. The torpedo shaped object was still hovering in the sky. It started moving from side to side and then a loud sonic boom and it was now gone. Needless to say, some witnesses screamed loudly or when watching had their jaw almost hit the ground from watching such an unusual event unfold in front of their eyes. I found the following 1989 Battle of the Saucers in Russia from a word search on the Internet. Subbotin claims that hundred of people watched the group of six silver saucers fight against one golden UFO. The UFOs all made incredible moves in the skies-at times flying as low as 5,000 feet, giving a good view to onlookers. Beams of red light constituted the weapon of choice. Witnesses who were interviewed by Sichenko claimed that the outnumbered golden UFO was finally defeated, although giving a gallant effort. The defeated UFO lost altitude, finally crashing to the ground. The six victorious UFOs disappeared into the clouds. Subbotin claims that the golden UFO crashed into a bog on a military test range, and the area was zoned off to everyone except military I received an email from Jannice about a person who saw a UFO dogfight: "Approximately 25 years ago the grandmother of my sons best friend watched an ariel dog fight between ufos. it was way up in the sky. she saw ufos explode. there was a lot more detail but I do not remember it." Of course this fighting between extraterrestrial groups is nothing new and can be found in religious texts from around the world. Folks on the OM thread presented the Nuremberg sighting as further evidence of extraterrestrial conflict. http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case486.htm At sunrise on the 14th April 1561, the citizens of Nuremberg beheld "A very frightful spectacle." The sky appeared to fill with cylindrical objects from which red, black, orange and blue white disks and globes emerged. Crosses and tubes resembling cannon barrels also appeared whereupon the objects promptly "began to fight one another." This event is depicted in a famous 16th century woodcut by Hans Glaser. It would seem there is considerable evidence for extraterrestrial conflict after all and this evidence tends to support the contactee evidence. It could really be that extraterrestrials have been recently fighting over the future of earth. This could very well lead to fighting amongst different factions within the military that have very different extraterrestrial alliances and agendas. Let's hope the ethical factions both terrestrial and extraterrestrial come out on top. http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/ Ed Komarek Jr. was born into a family of early ecologists and learned ecology and the natural sciences as a apprentice. He holds no formal degrees as did neither Herb Stoddard or his father Ed Komarek Sr. (Ed Komarek Sr. did later in life did get a honorary doctorate for his lifetime of work from Florida State University.) Herb Stoddard and close friend Aldo Leopold are recognized as the fathers of Ecology. Herb Stoddard was Ed's father's mentor, who later became know internationally as the father of Fire Ecology and who waged a lifetime info-war against Smokey The Bear anti-fire propagandists. Herb was like a grandfather to young Ed. In his early twenties Ed Komarek Jr. dropped out of college where he was majoring in wildlife management to strike out on his own into what was later to be called exopolitics, long before the name exopoltics was coined by Alfred Webre, JD. Never in his wildest dreams did young Ed expect that latter in life that the fields of ecology and exopolitics would converge into even another field of advanced study becoming known as astro-ecology.
Former Lawyer, current Business Consultant,history buff, Christian, father of 2 sons and a supporter of democratic government.
ETs Ever heard of Horatio? Well the Prince of Denmark told the truth that there are stranger things in this world than we could possibly imagine. I remember seeing NASA videos that certainly looked to me like a conflict between moving lights in space. Regardless, we dismiss these eye witness accounts at our peril. Too many people from all walks of life are seeing too many anomalies for them all to be mistaken by
Archie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1097 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 12:15:47 AM
Galactic community? That would be great! Every once in a while I’m sure we have or are being visited. I would love nothing more that a saucer grabbing me and whisking me away from the 2008 election cycle. by
David C Beach (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 119 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 2:30:30 AM
Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
Sure, but... if you think the TSA's boarding procedures are a pain in the ass, wait until you see these. by
John Sanchez Jr. (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 1158 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 12:40:14 PM
DAV, trying to remain vigilent on my/your office-holders.
Nuremberg sighting... the 1561 episode , while a long time ago, also was in the era of the famed Nostradamus 1503-1566 .... physician/occultist/ and writer of the 'Centuries', a book of prophecies. Nuremberg residents, i suggest, got caught up in a mass hysteria. by
victoras (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 21 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 6:02:02 AM
Bill Cain is a professional travel photo-journalist who writes primarily for the Concord Monitor in Concord, New Hampshire. He's visited all seven continents, countless countries and his travel experiences have contributed to and are reflected in his world views.
ET's Whatever scant evidence of UFO hostilities against each other exists (and by scant, I mean that this is the first I have ever heard of this type of conflict in the 15 years I've followed this phenomenon) is far outweighed by evidence from contactees and other experiencers that races who evolve to a point of being able to traverse the cosmos have transcended tribal warfare and other self-destructive tendencies. There are many experiencers who report that we, in fact, have been quarantined, and will not be permitted to travel throughout the cosmos until we learn to live peacefully first amongst ourselves, and then amongst other more highly evolved races who are visiting us with the pupose of helping us through our hostile adolescence . With this in mind, it should also be noted that there is a huge amount of evidence that some UFO's are not from out there, but actually from right here. The hidden technology that has been back-engineered from downed UFO craft has enabled the Cabal running the UFO cover-up to create their own crafts known as ARV's, or alien replicate vehicles, capable of anti-gravitic propulsion. It could be that these craft have instigated hostilities either with each other or with actual alien UFO's, some of which have been downed by the Cabal. by
Bill Cain (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 284 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 1:05:45 PM
Just a plain working person that is sick of the lies and our ego driven complacency about those lies.
I agree Bill ETs are way past the wasteful war game crap I agree Bill ETs are way past the wasteful war game crap. But egocentric people can't grasp the idea that ETs are not like us and are in fact way above us. I believe they are just hoping that ET will come and save us. Or if we are enslaved further it's because ET enslaved us. Everyone knows we are not responsible for what we let happen on our world. by
arlen custer (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 246 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 2:42:29 PM
Author of "The Politics of Extraterrestrials...Connecting the Dots" ISBN 0-9765223-0-6
OPERATION GET TRICKED We are all basically speculating on what exactly the Extraterrestrials are doing. You mention the one aerial battle where the ‘downed’ spacecraft fell into an area controlled by the Russian military. My speculation is that the entire event was ‘staged’ by the ET to help us take a look and see what was going on in the Russian military area. This type of a ‘Staged event’ and communication is referred to as a “Meta-Transiliatory communication.” We need to look beyond what it appears to be and focus our ‘Thinking’ about all of the different aspects of the event. The Meta-Transiliatory Communication seems to be aimed to engage a form of “Abstract function of Reason,” and hence; is not easily understood, even when someone is apprised of its significance. This type of communication may also be useful to help enhance and sharpen our perspective and analysis concerning the nuclear weapon filled world that we live in. As to the ‘Deception’ aspect of the ET ‘Staging;’ if you can understand that ET is ‘Tricking’ you, you may then figure out that your Nuclear War Fighting elite themselves; Are ‘Tricking’ you too. “Somebody up there loves us.”Our Nuclear War Fighting elite are doing everything that they possible can to insure that you all "Stay Tricked," at least long enough for them to get a full blown nuclear holocaust underway. After all, that was the plan; and still is the Plan. by
Patrick (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 400 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 4:28:54 PM
randall is a married carpenter in wisconsin very very much an outdoorsman, who's family goes back, over 120 years in the same town in n. wisconsin. who is concerned about global warming after the realization of the major changes in his own town's weather,and knowing nobody can stop it now. whether you believe in GOD or we are just animals something is happening? JUSTIFICATION IS COMMING!!!!!
well well lets at least prove there is ET before we say there is et wars for gods sake by
skiidogs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 115 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 6:34:55 PM
Illusions and management of the masses Never, ever suspect your government of lying or wrongdoing until a spokesman makes an official denial. by
Michael McCoy (4 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 261 comments)
on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 11:19:54 PM
Name is Rose Martinis, age 64, married. Atheist and retired dental tech. Hobbies: archeology, history, science, woodworking, wood carving and volunteering for non-profits.
Open Mind Forum? Re: on keeping an open mind. Yes, keep an open mind, BUT not so open that your brains fall out! by
uluro (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 68 comments)
on Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 6:15:05 PM
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